{"id":59728,"date":"2021-09-15T10:17:50","date_gmt":"2021-09-15T14:17:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=59728"},"modified":"2021-09-17T10:14:11","modified_gmt":"2021-09-17T14:14:11","slug":"pope-francis-talks-of-gospel-freedom-naysayers-go-bonkers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/09\/pope-francis-talks-of-gospel-freedom-naysayers-go-bonkers.html","title":{"rendered":"Pope Francis Talks of Gospel Freedom; Naysayers Go Bonkers"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-59732\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2021\/09\/MudVolcanoStatues.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"364\"><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Peter 2:17<\/strong>\u00a0(RSV) Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the [pagan, anti-Christian, persecuting] emperor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ecclesiastes 10:20<\/strong>\u00a0Even in your thought, do not curse the king, . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Titus 3:1-2<\/strong>\u00a0Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for any honest work, [2] to speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all men.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We live in an age where everything is now broken up into soundbites. And we ourselves are smashed up into a hundred different factions. Currently this is massively going on,<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/09\/eight-ways-in-which-the-devil-divides-catholics.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> even among orthodox Catholics<\/a>. The devil is having a field day. He laughs himself silly all day long at the divisive, contentious actions of millions of Catholics.<\/p>\n<p>The big game and perhaps Satan\u2019s most successful tactic today (to divide Catholics) is to take a few snippets of a talk or writing by Pope Francis (invariably taken out of context) and give them the worst possible (inaccurate, incorrect) slant, and then hundreds of Francis-bashers get together in a forum and try to out-do each other in being dense and obtuse and stupefyingly asinine.<\/p>\n<p>It goes on all the time, and there\u2019s no end in sight. And (here\u2019s the saddest part) it will no doubt continue with <em>future popes<\/em>, since this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/03\/honoring-popes-scriptural-honor-of-even-wicked-rulers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">utter lack or respect and reverence towards the Supreme Head of Christ\u2019s Church<\/a>: the successor of St. Peter, is an essentially unCatholic mentality that is not and will not be confined to reactions to one pope alone.<\/p>\n<p>In American courts, one who is called to take the stand takes an oath by agreeing with the notion: \u201cdo you swear to tell the truth, the <em>whole<\/em> truth, and nothing <em>but<\/em> the truth?\u201d This is an excellent resolve to make. Today we have an epidemic of half-truths drawn from Pope Francis, that look at first glance like something other than what they are. A half-truth is often no better than an outright lie.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve closely examined many instances of this sort of thing in my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/04\/replies-to-critiques-of-pope-francis-dave-armstrong.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">205 defenses of Pope Francis<\/a>. It\u2019s almost always (if not always) much ado about nothing; a tempest in a teapot; making a mountain out of a molehill at worst. That\u2019s my experience as an apologist. I can\u2019t pretend that it is other than what it is. I ran across another of the innumerable mudfests today, as I scrolled through Facebook.<\/p>\n<p>This post was a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sanctafamiliamedia\/posts\/2966612823667812?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">meme put up by <em>Sancta Familia<\/em><\/a>: in <em>agreement<\/em> with the Holy Father, since it introduced the excerpt from him as \u201cpowerful words.\u201d He was cited from an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/speeches\/2021\/september\/documents\/20210913-bratislava-religiosi.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">address in Slovakia on 9-13-21<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Perhaps some people are used to this [rigidity], but many others, especially the younger generations, are not attracted by a faith that leaves no interior freedom, by a Church in which all are supposed to think alike and blindly obey.<\/p>\n<p>[\u201cofficial\u201d Holy See version at the Vatican website: \u201cSome people may be used to this. But many others \u2013 especially the younger generations \u2013 are not attracted by a faith that leaves them no interior freedom. They are not attracted by a Church in which all are supposed to think alike and blindly obey.\u201d]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, the pope-bashers and the papal nitpickers and those given to rumormongering and gossip seemed to think this was the height of absurdity and\/or hypocrisy for the pope to speak in such a way. Of course, in its entirety it was a beautiful and profound message, soaked in the Bible and the Gospel. I\u2019ll get to that when I cite much of it, but first let me share with you some of the reactions. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sanctafamiliamedia\/posts\/2966612823667812?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The thread<\/a> [public setting], which has been up about 41 hours, as I write, has garnered 582 comments (not <em>all<\/em> negative, but <em>most<\/em>). Here are some from the nattering nabobs (and several names you may know):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/tony.esolen?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY4MjY5NjAzMTMwNjU%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Tony Esolen<\/span><\/span><\/a> <\/span>And when and where in the last 50 years has the Church been \u201crigid\u201d? [88 likes]<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/keating.karl?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY4MzAxMjM2NDYwODI%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Karl Keating<\/span><\/span><\/a><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/span>I suspect there was a mistranslation. \u201cFlaccid\u201d and \u201crigid\u201d are easy to confuse. [38 likes]<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/larry.chapp?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY4Mzc0OTY5Nzg2Nzg%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Larry Chapp <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>Exactly what I was thinking. You can\u2019t trust these darn translations.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/edward.wassell?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcwNjQwMTM2MjI2OTM%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Edward Wassell <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>Isn\u2019t <em>Traditiones Custodes<\/em> precisely an imposition of rigidity on the faithful and priests. Just accept the modern liturgy and obey.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/robert.brennan.56?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcxOTU5OTY5NDI4Mjg%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Robert Brennan <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>And for the 1,245th time, something the Pope says has to be explained to me. I\u2019m growing weary.<\/p>\n<p>[I couldn\u2019t resist that, so I chimed in: \u201cAnd for the 1,245th time it was no doubt taken out of context and a bunch of naysaying cynics give it the worst sort of interpretation. As a defender of this pope, let me tell you I am sick to death of <strong><em>that <\/em><\/strong>by now.\u201d I have received <em>no<\/em> \u201clikes\u201d or replies at all after 17 hours: the usual routine in these hit-threads: groupthinking clones]<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/phillip.campbell.7?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcxNjAzNjAyNzk3MjU%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Phillip Campbell<\/span><\/span><\/a> <\/span>If he does not want a church where we are all supposed to be alike and blindly obey, then he should stop pushing indiscriminate conformity with his new legislation restricting the traditional Latin mass.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reanenm1?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcxODczODM2MTAzNTY%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Reanen Maxwell <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>worst Pope ever<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/phillip.campbell.7?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcxODkyNzY5NDM1MDA%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Phillip Campbell<\/span><\/span><\/a> <\/span>Definitely at the bottom of the list<\/p>\n<p>[another one I couldn\u2019t resist, as I know Phillip personally, and he has been in my house, and I\u2019ve recommended a book of his; so I replied: \u201cRight down there with Honorius, Vigilius, Liberius, and the whoremongers and murderers, huh?\u201d Again, no \u201clikes\u201d or reply after 17 hours.]<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/fathererik.richtsteig?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcxODE5NTAyNzc1NjY%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">[Fr.] Erik Richtsteig <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>The irony is thick with this one.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/michael.tamara.7?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2NTI0OTY5OTcxNzg%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Michael Tamara<\/span><\/span><\/a> <\/span>This is true on its face, but ironic considering the source and recent events in the Church.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ecm0bbzt e5nlhep0 a8c37x1j\">\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The younger generations, if they still practice the faith at all, tend to gravitate toward tradition because they understand that true freedom cannot come from relativism and trying to appease the lawlessness of the secular world, but only through loving Jesus by obeying His commands. They yearn for a Church that will not affirm them in their fallenness, but that will once again challenge them to be raised up by Christ out of their sins and vices. They desire a Church that believes in them \u2013 that it is possible to live holy lives and strive to be saints \u2013 and encourages them in that effort rather than telling them not to bother because they\u2019re fine the way they are. Yet, it seems lost on the Holy Father \u2013 with his most recent motu proprio drastically handicapping the Traditional Latin Mass and marginalizing the vital and steadily growing group of Catholics who find their spiritual home and nourishment there \u2013 that it is younger families, priests, and religious who he has most greatly distressed by his own apparently rigid disdain for Catholic tradition.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sheila.banks.718689?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2MjEyMzAzMzM2Mzg%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Sheila Banks Dixon<\/span><\/span><\/a> <\/span>What is wrong with this man!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/tom.sharpling.7?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY4NjI3MjY5NzYxNTU%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Tom Sharpling <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>Well, the new Motu proprio on the Traditional Mass is an exact example of requiring everybody to blindly follow and believe and think in the same way. I have in the past made it quite clear that this was a bad tempered and impulsive mistake and will do nothing other than detract from the diversity and richness of the Church.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/teresa.toner.39?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2MjAzNTcwMDAzOTI%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Teresa Toner <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>This pope has an unfortunate way with words. . . . his words are often ambiguous and easily misconstrued.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reggielou.fashbaugh?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2MzQ0OTAzMzIzMTI%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Reggie-Lou Fashbaugh <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>He has a Luciferian PERFECTED well intended way of words.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/olisa.achike?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2NTgxNDM2NjMyODA%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Olisa Francis Achike <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>Signs and symptoms of clericalism. An out of touch statement by a clueless prelate.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sheila.banks.718689?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjY2MjYxMjM2NjY0ODI%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Sheila Banks Dixon <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>Can you ever in a million years imagine Pope St John Paul speaking about the young people like this. He drew the young to him. There\u2019s something wrong about this Pope.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">[Yeah, it\u2019s obvious that Pope Francis has trouble drawing and appealing to youth: only three million showed up for the final Mass at World Youth Day 2013 in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and 2.5 million for the final Mass at World Youth Day in Krakow Poland in 2016: more than three times the population of that city (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicnewsagency.com\/news\/40424\/diminished-crowds-at-world-youth-day\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">source<\/a>); clearly a problem]<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/kevin.t.rush.9?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDoyOTY2NjEyODIzNjY3ODEyXzI5NjcwNTc1NjAyOTAwMDU%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZXJ8-GomvAT2F1NVvDPu8qIRciNJQUyHUrzAGzjcjFqq909MN7X1u2opmsmAdl2B03NpnIG_g-w_VWXzNDOEiFxpkpToRNYnSlRldjT9zXgaFUs72PA_6nP9zdHuz8i3xIoowmytoH3xBMkpRRoTd0T&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Kevin T Rush <\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span>He\u2019s such a demagogue. Always twisting truth with straw man arguments. He\u2019s so tiresome; I marvel at the Lord\u2019s patience.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">To give just one of a billion examples, elsewhere: Ed Feser is a Thomist philosopher, who fancies himself as quintessentially Catholic. Yet he doesn\u2019t talk much like a Catholic at all when it comes to Pope Francis (much more like Luther and Calvin). Here he is, from <a href=\"http:\/\/edwardfeser.blogspot.com\/2021\/07\/pope-victor-redux.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">an article dated 7-18-21<\/a>:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Usually, errant popes exhibit serious failings of only one or two sorts.\u00a0\u00a0But Pope Francis seems intent on achieving a kind of synthesis of all possible papal errors.\u00a0\u00a0Like Honorius I and John XXII, he has made doctrinally problematic statements (and more of them than either of those popes ever did).\u00a0\u00a0Like Vigilius, his election and governance have involved machinations on the part of a heterodox party.\u00a0\u00a0The Pachamama episode brings to mind\u00a0Marcellinus and John XII.\u00a0\u00a0Then there are the bad episcopal appointments, the accommodation to China\u2019s communist government, and the clergy sexual abuse scandal, which echo the mismanagement, political folly, corruption and decadence of previous eras in papal history.\u00a0\u00a0And now we have this repeat of Victor\u2019s high-handedness.\u00a0\u00a0Having in this way\u00a0insulted a living predecessor, might Francis next ape\u00a0Pope Stephen VI\u00a0by exhuming a dead one and putting the corpse on trial?<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Probably not.\u00a0\u00a0But absolutely nothing would surprise me anymore in this lunatic period in history that we\u2019re living through.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Yeah we sure are living through a \u201clunatic period of history\u201d: but not for the reasons he thinks. He himself is in on the lunatic anti-papal, Luther redux faction.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">And it goes on and on, <em>ad nauseam<\/em>. You get the idea. Yet as I read the entire address, I can see nothing whatsoever <em>wrong<\/em> with it. He is massively misunderstood, as usual: certainly by those who won\u2019t trouble themselves to have the fairness and intelligence to read the whole thing, and even by many who <em>do<\/em> read it, because hostility breeds a lack of objectivity at best, an inability to comprehend, and flat-out lies and slander at worst.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">So why don\u2019t we actually <em>read<\/em> this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vatican.va\/content\/francesco\/en\/speeches\/2021\/september\/documents\/20210913-bratislava-religiosi.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">beautiful, Bible-soaked address<\/a> to Bishops, Priests, Religious, Seminarians, and Catechists<b> <\/b>by Pope Francis? It had three themes: freedom, creativity, and dialogue. For the sake of relative brevity, I\u2019ll concentrate on the first and third.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I have come as your brother, so indeed I feel like one of you. I am here to share your journey \u2013 this is what a Bishop and a Pope is supposed to do \u2013 your questions, and the aspirations and hopes of this Church and this country;<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Humility. Jesus also called His disciples His \u201cbrothers\u201d and \u201cfriends\u201d and washed their feet, etc.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<blockquote><p>Sharing was the style of the first Christian community: they were constant in prayer and they walked together in concord (cf.\u00a0<i>Acts<\/i>\u00a01:2-14). They also quarrelled, but they walked together.<\/p>\n<p>This is what we need most of all: a Church that can walk together, that can tread the paths of life holding high the living flame of the Gospel. The Church is not a fortress, a stronghold, a lofty castle, self-sufficient and looking out upon the world below. Here in Bratislava, you have a castle and it is a fine one! The Church, though, is a community that seeks to draw people to Christ with the joy of the Gospel, not a castle! She is the leaven of God\u2019s Kingdom of love and peace in our world. Please, let us not be tempted by worldly trappings and grandeur! The Church must be humble, like Jesus, who stripped himself of everything and made himself poor in order to make us rich (cf. 2\u00a0<i>Cor<\/i>\u00a08:9). That is how he came to dwell among us and to care for our wounded humanity.<\/p>\n<p>How great is the beauty of a humble Church, a Church that does not stand aloof from the world, viewing life with a detached gaze, but lives her life within the world. Living within the world means being willing to share and to understand people\u2019s problems, hopes and expectations. This will help us to escape from our self-absorption, for the centre of the Church is not the Church! When the Church is self-absorbed, she ends up like the woman in the Gospel: bent over, navel-gazing (cf.\u00a0<i>Lk<\/i>\u00a013:10-13). The centre of the Church is not herself. We have to leave behind undue concern for ourselves, for our structures, for what society thinks about us. This will only lead us to a \u201ccosmetic theology\u201d\u2026 How do we make ourselves look good? Instead, we need to become immersed in the real lives of people and ask ourselves: what are their spiritual needs and expectations? What do they expect from the Church? It is important to try to respond to these questions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a beautiful and moving reflection and exhortation to those who have devoted their lives to serving Jesus in the Church. I fail to see how any Christian familiar with the Bible and sacred Catholic tradition could disagree with this.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For me, three words come to mind.<\/p>\n<p>The first is freedom. Without freedom, there can be no true humanity, for human beings were created free in order to be free. The tragic chapters of your country\u2019s history provide a great lesson: whenever freedom was attacked, violated and suppressed, humanity was disfigured and the tempests of violence, coercion and the elimination of rights rapidly followed.<\/p>\n<p>Freedom is not something achieved automatically, once and for all. No! It is always a process, at times wearying and ever in need of being renewed, something we need to strive for every day. It is not enough to be free outwardly, or in the structures of society, to be authentically free. Freedom demands personal responsibility for our choices, discernment and perseverance. This is indeed wearisome and even frightening. At times, it is easier not to be challenged by concrete situations, to continue doing what we did in the past, without getting too deeply involved, without taking the risk of making a decision. We would rather get along by doing what others \u2013 or public opinion or the media \u2013 decide for us. This should not be the case. So often times nowadays we do what the media decide we should do. In this way, we lose our freedom. Let us reflect, though, on the history of the people of Israel: they suffered under the tyranny of the Pharaoh, they were slaves and then the Lord set them free. Yet to experience true freedom, not simply freedom from their enemies, they had to cross the desert, to undertake an exhausting journey. Then they began to think: \u201cWeren\u2019t we better off before? At least we had a few onions to eat\u2026\u201d This is the great temptation: better a few onions than the effort and the risk involved in freedom. This is one of our temptations. Yesterday, speaking to ecumenical representatives, I mentioned Dostoyevsky and his \u201cGrand Inquisitor\u201d. Jesus secretly comes back to the earth and the inquisitor reproaches him for having given freedom to men and women. A bit of bread and little else is enough. This temptation is always present, the temptation of the leeks. Better a few leeks and a bit of bread than the effort and the risk involved in freedom. I leave it to you to think about these things.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes in the Church too this idea can take hold. Better to have everything readily defined, laws to be obeyed, security and uniformity, rather than to be responsible Christians and adults who think, consult their conscience and allow themselves to be challenged. This is the beginning of casuistry, trying to regulate everything. In the spiritual life and in the life of the Church, we can be tempted to seek an ersatz peace that consoles us, rather than the fire of the Gospel that unsettles and transforms us. The safe onions of Egypt prove more comfortable than the uncertainties of the desert. Yet a Church that has no room for the adventure of freedom, even in the spiritual life, risks becoming rigid and self-enclosed. Some people may be used to this. But many others \u2013 especially the younger generations \u2013 are not attracted by a faith that leaves them no interior freedom. They are not attracted by a Church in which all are supposed to think alike and blindly obey.<\/p>\n<p>Dear friends, do not be afraid to train people for a mature and free relationship with God. This relationship is important. <strong><em>This approach may give the impression that we are diminishing our control, power and authority<\/em><\/strong> [Dave: in other words, it is <em>not<\/em> denying those things at all], yet the Church of Christ does not seek to dominate consciences and occupy spaces, but rather to be a \u201cwellspring\u201d of hope in people\u2019s lives. This is the risk; this is the challenge. I say this above all to bishops and priests, for you are ministering in a country where much has changed quickly and many democratic processes have been launched, but freedom remains fragile. This is especially true where people\u2019s hearts and minds are concerned. For this reason, I encourage you to help set them free from a rigid religiosity. May they be freed from this, and may they continue to grow in freedom. No one should feel overwhelmed. Everyone should discover the freedom of the Gospel by gradually entering into a relationship with God, confident that they can bring their history and personal hurts into his presence without fear or pretence, without feeling the need to protect their own image. You can say to them \u201cI am a sinner\u201d, but say it with sincerity, don\u2019t beat your breast and then keep thinking that you are justified. Freedom. May the proclamation of the Gospel be liberating, never oppressive. And may the Church be a sign of freedom and welcome! [my bolding and italics]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is a treasure-trove of spirituality and Christian discipleship. I could comment on it all day long, but suffice it to say that he is basically going against what is the pharisaical attitude of over-legalism and not seeing the forest for the trees. This is precisely what the naysayers and nattering nabobs of negativism above are doing: they are examining the DNA of the bark of the trees of the \u201cforest\u201d rather than seeing the entire forest in its fullness and wholeness. And this is what Jesus was constantly trying to get the Pharisees to see:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 23:23-24<\/strong> (RSV)\u00a0\u201cWoe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for you tithe mint and dill and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith; these you ought to have done, without neglecting the others. You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>St. Paul likewise rebuked those who \u201cgo with the crowd\u201d and fall prey to the current <em>zeitgeist<\/em> and fashionable groupthink; for example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>2 Timothy 3:5-7<\/strong> holding the form of religion but denying the power of it. Avoid such people. [6] For among them are those who make their way into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and swayed by various impulses, [7] who will listen to anybody and can never arrive at a knowledge of the truth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2 Timothy 4:1-4<\/strong> I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: [2] preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching. [3] For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, [4] and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But the ultimately positive message of the pope is drawn from frequent motifs in Holy Scripture about spiritual freedom:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John 8:31-36<\/strong> Jesus then said to the Jews who had believed in him, \u201cIf you continue in my word, you are truly my disciples, [32] and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span>.\u201d [33] They answered him, \u201cWe are descendants of Abraham, and have never been in bondage to any one. How is it that you say, `You will be made <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span>\u2018?\u201d [34] Jesus answered them, \u201cTruly, truly, I say to you, every one who commits sin is a slave to sin. [35] The slave does not continue in the house for ever; the son continues for ever. [36] So if the Son makes you <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span>, you will be <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span> indeed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 13:38-39<\/strong> Let it be known to you therefore, brethren, that through this man forgiveness of sins is proclaimed to you, [39] and by him every one that believes is <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freed<\/span> from everything from which you could not be <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freed<\/span> by the law of Moses.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 8:2<\/strong> For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set me <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span>\u00a0from the law of sin and death.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Corinthians 7:23<\/strong> You were bought with a price; do not become slaves of men.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2 Corinthians 3:17-18<\/strong> Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span>. [18] And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being changed into his likeness from one degree of glory to another; for this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Galatians 2:4<\/strong> But because of false brethren secretly brought in, who slipped in to spy out our <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span> which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage \u2014<\/p>\n<p><strong>Galatians 5:1<\/strong> For <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span> Christ has set us <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span>; stand fast therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Galatians 5:13-18<\/strong> For you were called to <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span>, brethren; only do not use your <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span> as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love be servants of one another. [14] For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, \u201cYou shall love your neighbor as yourself.\u201d [15] But if you bite and devour one another take heed that you are not consumed by one another. [16] But I say, walk by the Spirit, and do not gratify the desires of the flesh. [17] For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh; for these are opposed to each other, to prevent you from doing what you would. [18] But if you are led by the Spirit you are not under the law.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Peter 2:16-18<\/strong> Live as <span style=\"color: #008000;\">free<\/span> men, yet without using your <span style=\"color: #008000;\">freedom<\/span> as a pretext for evil; but live as servants of God. [17] Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor. [18] Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to the kind and gentle but also to the overbearing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A related scriptural theme is <em>liberty<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Luke 4:18<\/strong> \u201cThe Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim release to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">liberty<\/span> those who are oppressed,\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 8:21<\/strong> because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> liberty<\/span> of the children of God.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Corinthians 8:9<\/strong> Only take care lest this <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">liberty<\/span> of yours somehow become a stumbling block to the weak.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Corinthians 10:29<\/strong> . . . why should my <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">liberty <\/span>be determined by another man\u2019s scruples?<\/p>\n<p><strong>James 1:25<\/strong> But he who looks into the perfect law, the law of<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> liberty<\/span>, and perseveres, being no hearer that forgets but a doer that acts, he shall be blessed in his doing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>James 2:12<\/strong> So speak and so act as those who are to be judged under the law of<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> liberty<\/span>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This liberty is the opposite of spiritual \u201cbondage\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/r\/rsv\/rsv-idx?type=simple&amp;format=Long&amp;q1=bondage&amp;restrict=New+Testament&amp;size=First+100\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Gal 4:8; Heb 2:15<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Openness to <em>dialogue<\/em> in the task of evangelism and teaching was another of Pope Francis\u2019 three themes in this address:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Freedom, creativity, and finally,\u00a0<i>dialogue<\/i>. A Church that trains people in interior freedom and responsibility, one able to be creative by plunging into their history and culture, is also a Church capable of engaging in dialogue with the world, with those who confess Christ without being \u201cours\u201d, with those who are struggling with religion, and even with those who are not believers. It is not a cluster of special people. It dialogues with everyone: believers, those living lives of holiness, those who are lukewarm and those who do not believe. It speaks to everyone. It is a Church that, in the footsteps of Cyril and Methodius, unites and holds together East and West, different traditions and sensibilities. A community that, in proclaiming the Gospel of love, makes it possible for communion, friendship and dialogue to flourish between believers, between the different Christian confessions and between peoples.<\/p>\n<p>Unity, communion and dialogue are always fragile, especially against the backdrop of a painful history that has left its scars. The memory of past injuries can breed resentment, mistrust and even contempt; it can tempt us to barricade ourselves against those who are different. Wounds, however, can always turn into passages, openings that, in imitating the wounds of the Lord, allow God\u2019s mercy to emerge. That grace changes our lives and makes us artisans of peace and reconciliation. You have a proverb: \u201cIf someone throws a stone at you, give him bread in return\u201d. This is inspiring. How truly evangelical this is! It is Jesus\u2019 own invitation to break the vicious and destructive cycle of violence by turning the other cheek to those who persecute us, by overcoming evil with good (cf.\u00a0<i>Rom<\/i>\u00a012:21). I am always struck by an incident in the history of Cardinal Korec. He was a Jesuit Cardinal, persecuted by the regime, imprisoned, and sentenced to forced labour until he fell ill. When he came to Rome for the Jubilee of the Year 2000, he went to the catacombs and lit a candle for his persecutors, imploring mercy for them. This is the Gospel! It grows in life and in history through humble and patient love.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The pope here centers on a prominent biblical theme. The Greek word, <em>dialegomai<\/em> (13 appearances in the New Testament) is the source of the English word <em>dialogue<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 17:1-3\u00a0<\/strong>Now when they had passed through Amphip\u2019olis and Apollo\u2019nia, they came to Thessaloni\u2019ca, where there was a synagogue of the Jews.\u00a0[2] And Paul went in, as was his custom, and for three weeks he <span style=\"color: #800080;\">argued<\/span> with them from the scriptures, [3] explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and saying, \u201cThis Jesus, whom I proclaim to you, is the Christ.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 17:17<\/strong> So he <span style=\"color: #800080;\">argued<\/span> in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the market place every day with those who chanced to be there. [often, \u201creasoned\u201d in other translations: here, and in other passages with <em>dialegomai<\/em>. Unfortunately, \u201cargued\u201d today often conjures up in people a negative connotation of \u201cquarreling\u201d: which is only one of its secondary meanings]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 18:4<\/strong> And he <span style=\"color: #800080;\">argued<\/span> in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded Jews and Greeks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 18:19<\/strong> . . . he himself went into the synagogue and <span style=\"color: #800080;\">argued<\/span> with the Jews.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 19:8-9<\/strong> And he entered the synagogue and for three months spoke boldly, <span style=\"color: #800080;\">arguing<\/span> and pleading about the kingdom of God;\u00a0[9] but when some were stubborn and disbelieved, speaking evil of the Way before the congregation, he withdrew from them, taking the disciples with him, and<span style=\"color: #800080;\"> argued<\/span> daily in the hall of Tyran\u2019nus.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>Dialogizomai<\/em> has a similar general meaning (Mt 16:7-8; 21:25; Mk 2:6; 2:8 [2]; 8:16-17; 9:33; Lk 1:29; 3:15; 12:17; 20:14). Likewise, <em>suzeteo<\/em> means \u201cto discuss, dispute, question, examine together\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Mark 12:28<\/strong> And one of the scribes came up and heard them <span style=\"color: #800000;\">disputing<\/span> with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, \u201cWhich commandment is the first of all?\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This statement was in reference to Jesus\u2019 discussion with the Sadducees about resurrection (Mk 12:18-27). Thus, Jesus used the techniques of \u201cargument,\u201d \u201cdebate,\u201d and \u201cdisputation,\u201d just as St. Paul did, and on very many occasions as well, especially with the Pharisees. Jesus Himself used dialogue as a means of communicating His message.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 9:28-29<\/strong> So he went in and out among them at Jerusalem, [29] preaching boldly in the name of the Lord. And he spoke and <span style=\"color: #800000;\">disputed<\/span> against the Hellenists; but they were seeking to kill him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Again, all of this is eminently biblical. Yet recently (8-25-21), one <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2012\/12\/definitions-radical-catholic-reactionaries-mainstream-traditionalists-and-supposed-neo-catholics.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">radical Catholic reactionary<\/a> described Pope Francis\u2019 pontificate as, for example, <a href=\"https:\/\/onepeterfive.com\/the-francis-pontificate-is-the-catechism-of-hypocrisy\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cthe Catechism of Hypocrisy\u201d<\/a>. Claiming to be \u201cwritten in the spirit of Erasmus\u201d (believe me, it\u2019s <em>not<\/em>. I\u2019ve read a lot of Erasmus, and this trash has nothing to do with him), some of the \u201cgems\u201d of this abominable hit-piece are the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When it comes to preaching on the subject of hypocrisy, Pope Francis should be considered a sage.<\/p>\n<p>Hypocritical is a successor of St. Peter who disregards Sacred Scripture. . . .<\/p>\n<p>Apparently the catechism doesn\u2019t matter much to the pontiff. It seems he embraces the Protestant theory that so long as you have accepted Jesus as your \u201cpersonal\u201d Lord and Savior, you\u2019ll be just fine.<\/p>\n<p>Hypocrisy is the Holy Father\u2019s complete disregard for the presence and power of the Holy Eucharist. . . .<\/p>\n<p>Hypocrisy is a pontiff who cares more about Mother Earth than Mother Church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I beg and plead with readers: don\u2019t fall into this! It\u2019s sinful and slanderous. Above all, I exhort you to actually <strong><em>read the pope\u2019s words: in context and in their entirety<\/em><\/strong>, rather than simply reading cynically selected tidbits, complete with usually worthless \u201ccommentary\u201d from the peanut gallery. He\u2019s a wonderful and extraordinarily insightful, gifted teacher. Then if you must (I would say, avoid most of this, in our gossipy, intellectually vacuous day and age), read commentary and opinions about them, but read <em>both<\/em> sides: pro and con, not just con. Exhibit the pious Catholic and charitable spirit of St. Paul towards a leader in his time (and not even a Christian one):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 23:1-5<\/strong> And Paul, looking intently at the council, said, \u201cBrethren, I have lived before God in all good conscience up to this day.\u201d [2] And the high priest Anani\u2019as commanded those who stood by him to strike him on the mouth. [3] Then Paul said to him, \u201cGod shall strike you, you whitewashed wall! Are you sitting to judge me according to the law, and yet contrary to the law you order me to be struck?\u201d [4] Those who stood by said, \u201cWould you revile God\u2019s high priest?\u201d [5] And Paul said, \u201cI did not know, brethren, that he was the high priest; for it is written [Ex 22:28], `You shall not speak evil of a ruler of your people.\u2019\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #800080;\">Related Reading<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/04\/replies-to-critiques-of-pope-francis-dave-armstrong.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Replies to Critiques of Pope Francis (Dave Armstrong)<\/a>\u00a0[205 of my\u00a0<em>own<\/em>\u00a0articles]<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/07\/pope-francis-defended-helpful-resources-confused-troubled-frustrated-folks.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Pope Francis Defended: Resources for Confused or Troubled Folks<\/a>\u00a0[285 articles from others]<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>***<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><strong><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Photo credit:<\/span> <\/strong><a class=\"owner-name truncate no-outline decorated-link\" title=\"Go to Adam Cohn's photostream\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/adamcohn\/\" data-track=\"attributionNameClick\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Adam Cohn<\/a> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(2-28-16). In May 2006, an eruption of mud began to flow in Sdoarjo Indonesia. It\u2019s the largest mud volcano in the world, spewing 180,000 cubic meters of mud per day, and is expected to continue to flow for another 25-30 years. About a decade after the disaster began, these statues were placed to commemorate the lives lost and the lives interrupted.<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/adamcohn\/30078782241\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Flickr<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-nc-nd\/2.0\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">CC BY-NC-ND 2.0<\/a> license]<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>***<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><em>Summary<\/em>: Why is it that the endlessly blabbering, cynical critics of Pope Francis can\u2019t for the life of them grasp the beauty &amp; meaning of any given address or writing of his? It\u2019s a profound mystery!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1 Peter 2:17\u00a0(RSV) Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the [pagan, anti-Christian, persecuting] emperor. Ecclesiastes 10:20\u00a0Even in your thought, do not curse the king, . . . Titus 3:1-2\u00a0Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for any honest work, [2] to speak evil of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":59732,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[138],"tags":[14768,14765,137,571,572,570,14713,156,14771,11132,11129,14710,135,573],"class_list":["post-59728","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-papacy-infallibility","tag-freedom-of-the-gospel","tag-gospel-freedom","tag-heterodoxy","tag-modernism","tag-orthodox-catholic-dogma","tag-orthodoxy","tag-orthodoxy-of-pope-francis","tag-pope-francis","tag-pope-francis-dialogue","tag-pope-francis-evangelism","tag-pope-francis-the-gospel","tag-pope-francis-is-orthodox","tag-theological-liberalism","tag-traditional-catholic-doctrine"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Pope Francis Talks of Gospel Freedom; Naysayers Go Bonkers Pope Francis Talks of Gospel Freedom; Naysayers Go Bonkers<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"1 Peter 2:17\u00a0(RSV) Honor all men. 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