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Atheist anti-theist Jonathan M. S. Pearce is the main writer on the blog,\u00a0A Tippling Philosopher<\/em><\/a>.\u00a0His\u00a0\u201cAbout\u201d page<\/a>\u00a0states: \u201cPearce is a philosopher, author, blogger, public speaker and teacher from Hampshire in the UK. He specialises in philosophy of religion, but likes to turn\u00a0his hand to science, psychology, politics and anything involved in investigating reality.\u201d His words will be in\u00a0blue<\/span>. Words of Dennis R. MacDonald that he cites, will be in green<\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n *****<\/p>\n Presently, I am responding to his article, <\/span>Mark and Homeric Emulation<\/a> (10-18-21).<\/p>\n Dave Armstrong took umbrage with such connections, and wrote some kind of attempted refutation. Ah well.<\/span><\/p>\n This is referring to my previous refutation<\/a> of this novel, widely-panned thesis from NT scholar Dennis R. MacDonald. As is his increasing modus operandi (in the past he did actually attempt \u2014 albeit selectively \u2014 to directly reply<\/em> to my critiques), Jonathan simply completely ignores<\/em> my reply, and as an additional insult, doesn\u2019t even grant me the courtesy of linking<\/em> to it, so folks can see what I wrote.<\/p>\n So what I thought I would do here, because Armstrong has clearly never read a book by MacDonald in his life, is just detail some of the claims that he makes regarding specifically and only Jesus\u2019 burial and Joseph of Arimathea, and how Mark is emulating previous Greek works he would have studied in order to have become a learned Greek writer.<\/span><\/p>\n One doesn\u2019t have<\/em> to read every book. If a novel thesis is believed to be nonsense (or at best, not plausibly established) by the consensus of other scholars in the field (as I documented last time<\/a>), it deserves very little consideration (which is why I strongly considered not even bothering to write this reply). I don\u2019t have to read books about, for example, young earth creationism or geocentrism or about a flat earth, or KKK racist theories, or Jewish banker or Masonic or Illuminati one world government conspiracy theories. I know enough<\/em> about all of those topics (and about this one) to know that they are nonsense or conspiratorial gibberish, and as such, deserve no serious consideration.<\/p>\n Mark needs Joseph of Arimathea as a vehicle in which to introduce an empty tomb so he can have Jesus disappearing from it in order to provide a mechanism to argue for a bodily (i.e., not spiritual) resurrection. Or, at the very least, to provide supposed evidence for the Resurrection.<\/span><\/p>\n All he \u201cneeds\u201d is a tomb<\/em> to do that (which virtually all Jews in first-century Israel were buried in). There is no further need to \u201cinvent\u201d a fictional character. The myths and fictional imagination here are in MacDonald\u2019s and Pearce\u2019s minds, not in the mind of the Gospel writer(s).<\/p>\n Once Joseph had offered this service, he vanished from the story.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n Of course he did, because Mark\u2019s story ended<\/em> one chapter (20 verses) and four verses after Joseph entered into it (Mk 15:43). This ain\u2019t rocket science. The need to find conspiracy theories under every rock is not widely renowned as a respectable attribute of scholarly work.<\/p>\n The evangelist portrayed him as a distinguished member of the very group of Jewish authorities that had condemned Jesus, but Joseph secretly sided with him or at least identified with \u201cthe kingdom of God.\u201d His ambiguous status provides Jesus a silent patron with enough credibility to coax his body from Pilate and sufficient means to provided him a cave-tomb hewn from rock. As king of Troy, Priam, too, was distinguished and wealthy, able to offer Achilles an enormous ransom and provide for Hector a lavish funeral. Like Joseph, Priam was noted for his piety. 2<\/span><\/p>\n Priam began his journey at nightfall and arrived at Achilles\u2019 camp at the dinner hour. 3 Joseph went to Pilate at the same time of day: \u201cwhen evening had come . . . the day before the sabbath.\u201d4 Apparently he wanted to bury Jesus before the sabbath meal.<\/span><\/p>\n It\u2019s all well and good for MacDonald and his sycophant Pearce, who gobbles up his every word, to invent literary-based conspiracies and fables, with no \u201chard\u201d supporting evidence at all. Serious thinkers and analysts of the New Testament prefer to see what actual archaeology and historiography can bring to bear on the topic. See, for example, \u201cThe Resurrection of Jesus in the Light of Jewish Burial Practices\u201d<\/a> (5-4-16), by Craig A. Evans, \u00a0Distinguished Professor of Christian Origins and dean of the School of Christian Thought at Houston Baptist University, and a scholar with as many credentials as MacDonald. He prefers to stick to known facts:<\/p>\n In recent years a number of skeptics, including scholars who ought to know better, have charged that the story of the burial of Jesus itself is unhistorical, that Roman law did not in fact permit the burial of the crucified, and that the story of the burial is therefore simply part of early Christian apologetic, designed to confirm the story of the resurrection. A few of these scholars have suggested that in all probability the body of Jesus was not buried but left hanging on the cross or at best was cast into a ditch where it was mauled by animals. Skepticism regarding the burial of Jesus is ill-founded, in the light of Roman law and Jewish law, custom, and practice. The present essay will review both of these elements.<\/p>\n Roman law regarding the burial of the executed is far more nuanced \u2014and lenient \u2014 than many suppose. In the\u00a0Digesta<\/em>, compiled by Roman emperor Justinian in the sixth century (AD 530\u2013533) but comprising a great deal of law from the first and second centuries, we find important and relevant material in chapter 24 of book 48. All three of the paragraphs that make up chapter 24, the final chapter, entitled De cadaveribus punitorum<\/em>\u00a0(\u201cOn the bodies of the punished\u201d), are helpful. I shall treat paragraphs \u00a71 and \u00a73, both of which directly bear on the question of the burial of the executed.<\/p>\n So there you have it. The available evidence from actual practices in this time and place completely backs up Marks account (and that of the other three Gospels). There is, therefore, no rational basis for making up fables and legends about Mark \u201cneeding\u201d to invent Joseph of Arimathea in order to line up with his alleged obsession with emulating Homer. Everything is precisely what we would expect, based on what we know, including Jewish burial practices and Roman law concerning such situations.<\/p>\n If MacDonald and Pearce were serious about scientifically established evidence, they would immediately concede this, but alas, it sadly appears that they are more interested in fictional inventions, so as to mock and cast doubt on the New Testament accounts. That\u2019s not scholarship: it\u2019s sophistry, intellectual dishonesty, and desperate special pleading conspiratorialism for the sake of a nefarious agenda.<\/p>\n Joseph\u2019s request for the body was risky: \u201cJoseph . . . dared to go to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus.\u201d The phrase \u201cdared to go\u201d . . . is similar to Homer\u2019s description of Priam\u2019s courage. Achilles . . .\u00a0 observed, \u201cNo man alive, not even a rugged young fighter, would dare . . . to come . . .\u00a0 into . . . our camp.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n As just shown, there was no particular risk involved in going to the Romans to request a body. This was routine and enshrined in Roman law (so much so that even Josephus did it). Hence, Pilate granted his request, seemingly without question or controversy (Mk 15:46). I submit, then, that the \u201crisk\u201d to Joseph of Arimathea was, rather, from his own comrades in the Sanhedrin<\/em>. Since they had just played the key role in having Jesus killed, it\u2019s only sensible (and perfectly plausible) that Joseph would have some fear of being a nonconformist among them, so that it required \u201ccourage\u201d to do this act.<\/p>\n The same fear is perhaps implied in the Pharisee Nicodemus, who \u201ccame to Jesus by night<\/em>\u201d as an open-minded inquirer, to ask him questions (Jn 3:1-15). Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges<\/a><\/em> (comment on Mk 15:43: \u201ctook courage and went to Pilate\u201d: RSV) highlights another aspect of this move by Joseph:<\/p>\n He is no longer a secret disciple. He casts away all fear. The Cross transfigures cowards into heroes. \u201cIt was no light matter Joseph had undertaken: for to take part in a burial, at any time, would defile him for seven days, and make everything unclean which he touched (Numbers 19:11<\/a>;\u00a0Haggai 2:13<\/a>); and to do so now involved his seclusion through the whole Passover week\u2014with all its holy observances and rejoicings.\u201d Geikie, ii. 576.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n No longer being a \u201csecret disciple\u201d related to the Jewish leaders<\/em>, not the Romans. He would likely be ostracized and outcast among them; regarded as a traitor, helping or sympathizing with an \u201cenemy\u201d etc. This scenario is actually stated<\/em> in the Gospel of John: \u201cJoseph of Arimathe\u2019a, who was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly, for fear of the Jews<\/strong><\/em>, asked Pilate that he might take away the body of Jesus\u201d (Jn 19:38).<\/p>\n All this being granted, the alleged parallel to Homer vanishes. And MacDonald and his slavish admirer Pearce could have figured this out. It ain\u2019t rocket science.<\/p>\n Joseph here plays the role Homer gave to Hector\u2019s father. Later gospels, of course, named Jesus\u2019 father Joseph, and Mark surely could have known this tradition. Jesus\u2019 father does not bury his son, but his namesake from Arimathea does.\u00a0 . . . By having Joseph of Arimathea assume Joseph\u2019s responsibility for the burial of his son, Mark again may be criticizing Jesus\u2019 family. . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n It is not, indeed, his disciples, or his father, who takes him down from the cross but someone else called Joseph, . . . This is, to me, clearly symbolic, driving home a motif and point.<\/span><\/p>\n This is more self-serving, arbitrary ludicrosity. If the goal was to imitate Homer at every turn, then certainly Mark would have simply had Joseph, Jesus\u2019 father, do this. That would be a parallel. But because that isn\u2019t the case in mark, MacDonald (like all good tin foil hat conspiracy theorists) simply pivots to a scenario where Mark makes up another Joseph to take his place. This sort of mindless speculation is beneath contempt.<\/p>\n The fact of the matter is that all four Gospels and early Christian tradition hold that Joseph had died<\/em> before Jesus began His public ministry. Wikipedia (\u201cSt. Joseph\u201d<\/a>) states:<\/p>\n The last time Joseph appears in person in any Gospel book is in the story of the\u00a0Passover\u00a0visit to the Temple\u00a0in Jerusalem when Jesus is 12 years old, found only in Luke. No mention is made of him thereafter.<\/sup>\u00a0The story emphasizes Jesus\u2019 awareness of his coming mission: here Jesus speaks to his parents (both of them) of \u201cmy father,\u201d meaning God, but they fail to understand (Luke 2:41\u201351).<\/p>\n Christian tradition represents Mary as a widow during the adult ministry of her son. Joseph is not mentioned as being present at the\u00a0Wedding at Cana\u00a0at the beginning of Jesus\u2019 mission, nor at the\u00a0Passion\u00a0at the end.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Thus, there is no mention in the Gospels of Jesus\u2019 \u201cmother and father\u201d after the time that He was twelve years old. It\u2019s always Mary alone<\/em> that is referenced: including at the time of the crucifixion. So there is no need to come up with more conspiracies. Joseph, the legal (not biological) father of Jesus was dead at the time of the crucifixion. Therefore, he couldn\u2019t ask for His body. But as we have seen, the norm was that if the Sanhedrin had requested execution of a criminal, it was responsible for the burial of the body, as opposed to the family of the criminal. Hence, we also read of Nicodemus, another Pharisee sympathetic to Jesus, helping in the burial process (Jn 19:39).<\/p>\n I hate to befuddle MacDonald and Pearce with actual historical facts, but that is how many of us (this may shock them) go about determining matters of history, rather than contriving conspiracy theories in our own head (facts be damned!) next to a fire, Homer in hand, and imaginations running wild: oblivious to known facts. In this instance, again, the so-called parallel with Homer doesn\u2019t exist<\/em> in the first place.<\/p>\n A similar wordplay applies to Mark\u2019s Simon Peter, who failed to fulfill his promise to die with his Lord. Two other Simons play roles one might have expected of him: Simon the leper entertained him, and Simon the Cyrenian carried his cross.<\/span><\/p>\n More fanciful nonsense. Known facts again explode the myths and conspiracy theories. Wikipedia (\u201cSimon [given name]\u201d<\/a>) informs us that:<\/p>\n Simon<\/b>\u00a0is a common name, from\u00a0Hebrew\u00a0\u05e9\u05b4\u05c1\u05de\u05b0\u05e2\u05d5\u05b9\u05df\u00a0\u0160im\u02bb\u00f4n<\/a><\/i>, meaning \u201clisten\u201d or \u201chearing\u201d.[1]<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0It is also a classical Greek name, deriving from an adjective meaning \u201cflat-nosed\u201d.[2]<\/a><\/sup>:\u200a232\u200a<\/span><\/sup>[3]<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0In the first century AD, Simon was the most popular male name for Jews in\u00a0Roman Judea.[4]<\/a><\/sup><\/p>\n The Hebrew name is Hellenised as\u00a0Symeon<\/i>\u00a0(Greek:\u00a0\u03a3\u03c5\u03bc\u03b5\u03ce\u03bd<\/span>) in the\u00a0Septuagint, and in the\u00a0New Testament\u00a0as both Symeon[5]<\/a><\/sup>\u00a0and, according to most authorities, Simon. Some commentators on the New Testament say that it could be a Hellenised form of the Hebrew\u00a0Shim\u2019on<\/i>, but if not then it indicates that Peter came from a \u201cHellenistic background\u201d; this was not unheard of in this era, as contemporary Jews such as\u00a0Andrew the Apostle\u00a0(Simon\u2019s brother) sometimes bore originally Greek names.<\/p>\n Sources cited: Ilan, Tal (2002) Lexicon of Jewish Names in Late Antiquity: Palestine 330 BCE\u2013200 CE<\/i>\u00a0(Texts & Studies in Ancient Judaism, 91), Coronet Books, pp. 56\u201357; Hachili, R. \u201cHebrew Names, Personal Names, Family Names and Nicknames of Jews in the Second Temple Period,\u201d in J. W. van Henten and A. Brenner, eds.,\u00a0Families and Family Relations as Represented in Early Judaism and Early Christianity<\/i>\u00a0(STAR 2; Leiden:Deo, 2000), pp. 113\u2013115;\u00a0apud<\/i>\u00a0Bauckham, Richard (2017).\u00a0Jesus and the Eyewitnesses<\/i><\/a>\u00a0(2nd\u00a0ed.). Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing. pp.\u00a068\u201372.\u00a0ISBN<\/a>9780802874313<\/bdi><\/a>.<\/cite>\u00a0Quote (p. 71):\u00a015.6% of men bore one of the two most popular male names, Simon and Joseph<\/i>; (p. 72):\u00a0for the\u00a0Gospels<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0Acts<\/a>\u2026 18.2% of men bore one of the two most popular male names, Simon and Joseph<\/i>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n I submit that this data blows out of the water MacDonald\u2019s fables regarding supposed fictional usage of the names Joseph<\/em> and Simon<\/em> by Mark. This Gospel precisely reflects what we know about the frequency of those name and others in this time and place. Simon<\/em> was the most popular name, followed by Joseph<\/em>.<\/p>\n We shall see a similar play on the name Mary for the women who came to the tomb to care for Jesus\u2019 body.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n Likewise, Mary<\/em> was the most popular name among Palestinian Jews between 330 BC and 200 AD, according to a chart of the evidence produced by Richard Bauckham<\/a> (ibid<\/em>.) on his page 89, which can be accessed by the Amazon \u201cLook Inside\u201d feature (I searched \u201c31 Most Popular Female Names\u201d). He also noted:<\/p>\n 28.6% of the women bore one of the two most popular female names, Mary and Salome. 49.7% of the women bore one of the nine most popular female names. (p. 72)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Interestingly, other names on the list, including Salome<\/em> (#2), Martha<\/em> (#4), Joanna<\/em> (#5), Sapphira<\/em> (#5), Anna<\/em> (#13), Susanna<\/em> (#16), Elizabeth<\/em> (#21), Tabitha<\/em> (#21), and Dorcas<\/em> (#21) are also found in the New Testament. As usual, it accurately reflects the known historical facts for the time and place where they are found in the text.<\/p>\n Thus, in one verse in Mark, this reality is reflected by the appearance of Mary<\/em> twice, and Salome<\/em> (the second most popular name, which was also the name of the woman who betrayed John the Baptist): \u201cThere were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Mag\u2019dalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salo\u2019me,\u201d (Mk 15:40; cf. 16:1). Facts is facts. This is not made-up fiction. It corresponds exactly<\/em> to what we know<\/em> (from serious research<\/em>, not mere speculation<\/em>) about frequency of male and female names in first-century Judaea \/ Palestine \/ Israel.<\/p>\n Judas and John were, according to Bauckham (p. 102), the fourth and fifth most common names. There are seven distinct Judas\u2019s in the New Testament (New Bible Dictionary<\/em>, 1962, \u201cJudas\u201d, p. 673, and at least three Johns (the Baptist and the Evangelist and \u201cJohn called Mark\u201d: Acts 15:37)<\/p>\n Mark makes a point of how unusually short and painless the death of Jesus was, especially for a mode of death that was supposed to be long and torturous. Origen even defended this short death on account of people thinking Jesus was some kind of weakling. The reason, one might suppose, was to keep his body intact for rising.<\/span><\/p>\n Yeah, it\u2019s a huge supposition alright. Mark agrees with the other Gospels in asserting a six-hour length of time of Jesus on the cross before He died (having been brutally beaten even before that, to within an inch of His life). According to a medical article about crucifixion<\/a>:<\/p>\n Death, usually after 6 hours\u20134 days, was due to multifactorial pathology: after-effects of compulsory scourging and maiming, haemorrhage and dehydration causing hypovolaemic shock and pain, but the most important factor was progressive asphyxia caused by impairment of respiratory movement. Resultant anoxaemia exaggerated hypovolaemic shock. Death was probably commonly precipitated by cardiac arrest, caused by vasovagal reflexes, initiated inter alia by severe anoxaemia, severe pain, body blows and breaking of the large bones.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Jesus was probably particularly singled out for extraordinary scourging and beating before the crucifixion, based on belief that He was falsely claiming to be the Messiah (i.e., that He was some kind of nut and someone who would cause the Romans to persecute the Jewish people). False Messiahs were absolutely despised.\u00a0 A crown of thorns was crammed onto His head (Mk 15:17; Mt 27:29; Jn 19:2). This alone would have caused extraordinary pain and loss of blood. He was struck on the head with a reed (Mk 15:19; Mt 27:30) and otherwise struck (Jn 19:3).<\/p>\n Even before His \u201cpunishment proper\u201d from the Romans he was struck by various Jewish leaders (Mk 14:65; Mt 26:67-68; Lk 22:63-64; Jn 18:22) and temple guards (Mk 14:65). Moreover, Luke adds the report: \u201cHerod with his soldiers treated him with contempt and mocked him\u201d (Lk 23:11). As the article above states: \u201cDeath was probably commonly precipitated by cardiac arrest, . . . initiated inter alia by . . . severe pain, body blows . . .\u201d<\/p>\n All of this suggests His being very weak and close to death even before<\/em> He was crucified, leading to a relatively quick death for that method of execution. We can marvel that He even survived six<\/em> more hours. Again, conspiracies need not be made up to explain this.<\/p>\n Achilles and Pilate both marveled at the requests of their uninvited guests; Achilles was astounded that Priam, the father of his slain enemy, dared to enter his home and kiss his murderous hands.<\/span><\/p>\n There is no analogy here. I\u2019ve already shown that Joseph feared the Jews, not Pilate, from whom he requested the body. So it\u2019s not a parallel at all. There is no indication whatever in the texts that Pilate was \u201castounded\u201d that he made the request. Mark alone, of the four Gospels, states that Pilate \u201cmarvelled\u201d or \u201cwondered\u201d if Jesus was dead yet.\u00a0 It\u2019s all rather matter-of-fact. And that\u2019s because this was part of Roman law and nothing unusual at all, as shown above. Hence, Greek linguist A. T. Robertson comments: \u201cPerfect active indicative with\u00a0\u03b5<\/span> after a verb of wondering, a classical idiom, a kind of indirect question just as we say \u2018I wonder if.\u2019 Usually death by crucifixion was lingering. This item is only in Mark\u201d (Word Pictures in the New Testament<\/em><\/a>). Vincent\u2019s Word Studies in the New Testament<\/em> concurs<\/a>: \u201cWondered. This query and the asking the centurion are peculiar to Mark.\u201d<\/p>\n For his part, Pilate marveled that Jesus already was dead.<\/span><\/p>\n All it says in Mark 15:44 is \u201cAnd Pilate wondered [many translations<\/a>: \u201cmarveled\u201d or \u201csurprised\u201d] if he were already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him whether he was already dead.\u201d It was a simple factual question, because oftentimes the crucified took longer to die.<\/p>\n Achilles sent two soldiers to get the ransom and summoned . . . maidservants to \u201cwash and anoint\u201d Hector. . . . Compare the shroudings of Hector and Jesus.<\/span><\/p>\n So what<\/em>!? Lots of cultures wash and anoint dead bodies and cover it with a fresh shroud. Historians believe that Homer reflected ancient Greek practices, that were similar to not only Jewish customs, but those of many cultures around the world. None of this proves \u201ccopying\u201d of Homer from the writer of Mark. Are we to believe that he singlehandedly \u201cinvented\u201d Jewish burial customs, from copying Homer? These had been developing for many centuries! Sometimes there were similarities and differences.<\/p>\n