{"id":60877,"date":"2021-10-28T13:57:00","date_gmt":"2021-10-28T17:57:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=60877"},"modified":"2023-03-18T18:24:51","modified_gmt":"2023-03-18T22:24:51","slug":"does-god-use-even-lowly-apologists-to-help-save-folks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/10\/does-god-use-even-lowly-apologists-to-help-save-folks.html","title":{"rendered":"Does God Use Even Lowly Apologists to Help Save Folks?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Reply to False Caricatures of Apologists Over Against Documented <em>Biblical<\/em> Views<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2021\/10\/Paul18.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-60880\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2021\/10\/Paul18-220x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"220\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>There is a strain of thought floating around today, which has infiltrated the Catholic Church, to the effect that apologetics is something that one ought to be <em>ashamed<\/em> of, as if it is merely a self-serving, arrogant, know-it-all enterprise (and apologists, pompous pretenders). We apologist-types supposedly get an \u201cI told you so!\u201d charge out of telling people when they are wrong, as if that is the sole factor that defines and gives meaning to what we do. It\u2019s one of many negative stereotypes of apologists. Heaven knows, there are self-described apologists who<em> do<\/em> fall into this description (we being human and fallen like everyone else), but it\u2019s by no means an <em>accurate representation of the whole<\/em>. And as such, it is a species of prejudice.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not just a supposed air of superiority that marks the apologist (so we are told), which frosts many people, but the very <em>notion<\/em> and concept that anyone can deign to tell anyone else that they are wrong (tough love \/ \u201cfaithful are the wounds of a friend\u201d \/the biblical rebuke) \u2014 and that very unpopular, unfashionable traditional teachings are <em>right<\/em> \u2014 that are under fire. We\u2019re in a postmodernist world now. Everything is subjective. Everyone\u2019s truth is their own. Absolute truth is a quaint fable, held only by old-fashioned, naive, fuddy-duds. And I believe that is ultimately what lies behind this antipathy to apologetics, along with a certain virtue-signaling, \u201cwoke\u201d, holier-than-thou, smarter-than-thou elitism that is especially prevalent today on the political left.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s certainly true that anyone can start a blog and start calling himself an \u201capologist\u201d without credentials. It\u2019s also <em>equally<\/em> true that legitimate apologists <em>with<\/em> credentials can start blogs and have multiple ways of being accountable. First of all, lay apologetics is enthusiastically sanctioned and encouraged by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/08\/internet-evangelism-apologetics-catholic-church-approval.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">the Catholic Church<\/a> and by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/06\/apologetics-lay-apostolates-strong-approval-from-popes.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">popes<\/a>, and has a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/08\/catholic-lay-apologetics-long-and-noble.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">long and storied history<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, there are all sorts of means of accountability. In my own case (which I can authoritatively speak to!), as far back as 1993, before I ever got online, my first book, <em>A Biblical Defense of Catholicism<\/em> was warmly recommended (in what is now the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/books-by-dave-armstrong-biblical.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Foreword: available online<\/a>) by the late <a href=\"https:\/\/hardonsj.org\/biography\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Servant of God Fr. John A. Hardon, SJ<\/a>, who was widely considered to be the foremost catechist in America before the <em>Catechism<\/em> came out. He was also an advisor to both Pope St. Paul VI and St. Teresa of Calcutta (Mother Teresa) and her Missionaries of Charity. That\u2019s being \u201c<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">accountable to no one\u201d<span style=\"color: #000000;\">? That\u2019s not <em>supervision<\/em>?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Lay apologetics is an activity that has (or<em> should<\/em> have, if individuals lack this) many networks of accountability. So, for example, I am published by about seven different Catholic publishers. These in turn often have oversight (or at least commendation) from bishops. The same is true of Catholic Answers, a lay apologetics organization, which has the approval of many bishops, as I have written about and documented in the past. I\u2019ve written several articles for them, been on <em>Catholic Answers Live<\/em> twice, and had a book published by them.<\/p>\n<p>The same is true of apostolates like The Coming Home Network, for whom I worked for three years as a forum moderator, or <em>National Catholic Register<\/em>, for which I have written 261 articles over the last five years. I also have two Imprimaturs for works of mine.\u00a0Before I ever started a website \/ blog, my first book: later to be published by Sophia Institute Press, was already complete. I had been published in several Catholic magazines, and my conversion story was included in Patrick Madrid\u2019s runaway bestseller <em>Surprised by Truth<\/em> in 1994.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s<strong><em> not<\/em><\/strong> Catholic teaching that any apologist or priest or DRE or nun or anyone else who is called to a particular apostolate or vocation as a full- or part-time Christian worker are mere <em>worms<\/em>, while God gets <em>all<\/em> credit for<em> everything<\/em> and we fallen, miserable, wicked human beings never get any at all. That may be Calvinism, but it ain\u2019t Catholicism or Bible teaching.<\/p>\n<p>Some want to make out that we apologists are always going around with our noses so high up in the air that we would drown in a thunderstorm, pridefully and foolishly crediting ourselves with the work that is ultimately the Holy Spirit\u2019s, and thinking we are really \u201csomething\u201d and superior to underlings because someone might have said they came into the Church as a partial result of something we wrote (or said). Anyone who knows anything at all, theologically and spiritually, knows that God\u2019s grace is the <em>ultimate<\/em> cause of all salvation, repentance; indeed, of any good thing whatsoever that any human being does. DUH! But it doesn\u2019t follow that God is the <em>only<\/em> cause. He Himself told us so through His inspired revelation, the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s critics of apologetics and apologists who arguably exhibit excessive pride. They are sure putting out an impression of being proud of their supposed humility and feeling that they are \u201cnot like other men\u201d: as Jesus said of the prideful Pharisee (Lk 18:11, RSV). I again use myself as an example of one such \u201clay apologist\u201d. I have always taken great pains to give glory to God if someone thanks me for having aided them in becoming\u00a0 Catholic or returning to the Church. I will say \u201cthanks\u201d but immediately add (usually) \u201call glory to God always.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I try to learn from and emulate my mentor, Fr. Hardon in this respect. In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/06\/personal-tribute-to-fr-john-a-hardon-s-j.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">my tribute to him<\/a>, written just two days after he died (1 January 2001) I recounted a story about him:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Fr. Hardon\u2019s manifest virtue of humility was one of his leading character traits. He would habitually refer to himself as \u201cthis sinner,\u201d which always reminded me of the Apostle Paul calling himself \u201cthe chief of sinners.\u201d The last time I saw him was about a year ago at a conference for Catholic radio, where he was to be given a well-deserved award for lifetime achievement. I knew that he would be very uncomfortable with this because undoubtedly he would regard it as improperly extolling\u00a0<em>him<\/em>. Yet he was far too courteous to ever consider refusing to accept the honor. His words upon receiving the award were entirely what I expected from such a humble servant of God. He rose from his chair in the middle of the crowd. I paraphrase, but his entire \u201cacceptance speech\u201d was essentially as follows: \u201cThank you\u00a0<em>very<\/em>\u00a0much. To God be all the glory \u2014<strong><em>\u00a0all<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0the glory.\u201d If I remember correctly, he also blessed the audience. And then he sat down.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When I wrote about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/07\/fruit-156-reasons-why-catholic-apologetics-is-a-good-thing.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">156 documented cases<\/a> where someone gave me partial credit for their becoming Catholic or returning to the Church, I noted in the subtitle that this was \u201cCompletely Caused by God\u2019s Grace.\u201d My opening words of introduction were:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>All glory to God always, for everything. We are just vessels, if He uses us to spread the message to someone else: one sinning beggar sharing spiritual food with other beggars. It all goes back to God and His grace in the end. No one can do the slightest good thing without it. Praise Him!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I\u2019ve been doing apologetics and evangelism for now 40 years: the first nine as a Protestant. This was always my opinion. I had great instruction and theological and spiritual formation<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/gratefulness-for-my-evangelical-protestant-background.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> as a Protestant<\/a> and as a Catholic.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Now I want to show what the Bible actually teaches about such matters.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">God (rather strikingly) refers to us as His <strong><em>fellow workers<\/em><\/strong>:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Mark 16:20<\/strong> (RSV) And they went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Romans 15:17-19<\/strong> \u00a0In Christ Jesus, then, I have reason to be proud of my work for God. [18] For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has wrought through me to win obedience from the Gentiles, by word and deed, [19] by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Holy Spirit, so that from Jerusalem and as far round as Illyr\u2019icum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Corinthians 3:9<\/strong> . . . we are God\u2019s fellow workers . . . (KJV: \u201clabourers together with God\u201d)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Corinthians 15:9-10\u00a0<\/strong> For I am the least of the apostles, unfit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. [10] But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God which is with me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Corinthians 15:57-58\u00a0 <\/strong>But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. [58]\u00a0Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2 Corinthians 6:1<\/strong> Working together with him, then, we entreat you not to accept the grace of God in vain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Philippians 2:13<\/strong> for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">God (mostly communicating via St. Paul) goes beyond that. He gives us partial credit for spreading His<strong><em> grace<\/em><\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2 Corinthians 4:15<\/strong>\u00a0For it [his many sufferings: 4:8-12, 17] is all for your sake, so that\u00a0as grace extends to more and more people\u00a0it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Ephesians 3:2\u00a0<\/b>assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God\u2019s grace that was given to me for you . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Ephesians 4:29<\/b>\u00a0Let no evil talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for edifying, as fits the occasion, that it may\u00a0impart grace\u00a0to those who hear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Peter 4:10<\/strong> As each has received a gift, employ it for one another, as good stewards of God\u2019s varied grace:<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">St. Paul is so gung-ho on the notion of his distributing grace to folks, that he mentions this at the beginning of practically every epistle that he wrote. When Paul and others use the common greeting of \u201cgrace to you\u201d (e.g., Rom 1:7; 1 Cor 1:3; 2 Cor 1:2; Gal 1:3; Eph 1:2; Phil 1:2; Col 1:2; 1 Thess 1:1; 2 Thess 1:2; Phlm 1:3; Rev 1:4) it is in the sense of \u201cmay God give you more grace.\u201d\u00a0St. Paul is stating that he hopes and prays that his readers will receive more grace from God, as in the sense of 2 Peter 3:18; Ephesians 4:7; James 4:6; 1 Peter 1:2; 2 Peter 1:2, etc. And in so doing he is acting, again, as a sort of \u201cmini-mediator.\u201d Jesus is ultimately the mediator of grace. It all comes through Him. But He also clearly uses human beings to distribute the grace, allowing others to attain salvation, as these passages establish beyond any doubt.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">God even gives us partial credit for being vessels or conduits of His<strong><em> salvation<\/em><\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Psalm 51:13<\/strong> Then I will teach transgressors thy ways, and sinners will return to thee.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Acts 2:38-41<\/strong> And Peter said to them, \u201cRepent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. [39] For the promise is to you and to your children and to all that are far off, every one whom the Lord our God calls to him.\u201d [40] And he testified with many other words and exhorted them, saying, \u201cSave yourselves from this crooked generation.\u201d [41] So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Acts 11:12-14<\/strong> And the Spirit told me to go with them, making no distinction. . . . [13] And he told us how he had seen the angel standing in his house and saying, `Send to Joppa and bring Simon called Peter; [14] he will declare to you a message by which you will be saved, you and all your household.\u2019<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Romans 11:13-14\u00a0<\/b>Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry [14] in order to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Corinthians 1:21<\/strong> For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Corinthians 7:16\u00a0<\/b>Wife, how do you know whether you will\u00a0save your husband? Husband, how do you know whether you will\u00a0save your wife?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Corinthians 9:22<\/b>\u00a0I have become all things to all men, that\u00a0I might by all means save some.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2 Corinthians 1:6<\/strong>\u00a0If we are afflicted, it is for your\u00a0comfort and\u00a0salvation; . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Timothy 4:16<\/b>\u00a0Take heed to yourself and to your teaching: hold to that, for by so doing\u00a0you will save both yourself and your hearers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>2 Timothy 2:10<\/strong> Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain salvation\u00a0in Christ Jesus with its eternal glory.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>James 5:15<\/strong>\u00a0And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>James 5:19-20 <\/strong>My brethren, if any one among you wanders from the truth and some one brings him back,\u00a0[20] let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. [this puts the lie to Alt-Left\u2019s assertion: \u201c<\/span><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Holy Spirit <em><strong>alone<\/strong><\/em> keeps Catholics in the Church.\u201d<span style=\"color: #000000;\">]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>1 Peter 3:1<\/strong>\u00a0Likewise you wives, be submissive to your husbands, so that some, though they do not obey the word, may be\u00a0won without a word\u00a0by the behavior of their wives<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">God even chooses to share His<strong><em> glory<\/em><\/strong> with us: His creatures, as<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/12\/bible-god-shares-glory-with-his-creatures.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> I have shown in many Bible passages<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Apologetics is important because 1) the Bible, and 2) the Church say it is. Period. End of story.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>: if any of my 3,850+ free online articles and\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/06\/dave-armstrongs-catholic-apologetics-bookstore-49-books-paperback-e-pub-mobi-nook-book-amazon-kindle-itunes-pdf-rock-bottom-regular-prices-67-savings-for-e-books-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">50 books<\/a>\u00a0have helped you (by God\u2019s grace) to decide to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">become Catholic<\/a>\u00a0or to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">return to the Church<\/a>, or better understand some doctrines and\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/the-biblical-basis-of-apologetics-defense-of-christianity.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>why<\/em>\u00a0we believe them<\/a>, and\/or if you believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general, please seriously consider a much-needed financial contribution. 1 December 2021 will be my 20th anniversary as a\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/my-literary-resume.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">full-time Catholic apologist<\/a>.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"o9v6fnle cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql ii04i59q\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/us\/webapps\/mpp\/sem\/account-selection-signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PayPal donations<\/a>\u00a0are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave [at] gmail [dot] com (change the \u201c[at]\u201d to @ and \u201c[dot]\u201d to an actual dot, and take out spaces). \u201cCatholic Used Book Service\u201d is my old side-business. To learn about the different methods of contributing, including 100% tax deduction, etc., see my page:\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/about-dave-armstrong-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">About Catholic Apologist Dave Armstrong \/ Donation Information<\/a>.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks a million<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0from the bottom of my heart!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>St. Paul<\/em>, by Guercino (1591-1666)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Giovanni_Francesco_Barbieri_-_Saint_Paul.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">***<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em>Summary<\/em>: Some critics of apologetics claim that only the Holy Spirit makes converts and that it\u2019s certainly not men who do it. Not! Scripture sez men (even apologists) help, too!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reply to False Caricatures of Apologists Over Against Documented Biblical Views There is a strain of thought floating around today, which has infiltrated the Catholic Church, to the effect that apologetics is something that one ought to be ashamed of, as if it is merely a self-serving, arrogant, know-it-all enterprise (and apologists, pompous pretenders). 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Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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