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Protestant anti-Catholic apologist Jason Engwer, who runs the Tribalblogue<\/em> site, takes some potshots against the Assumption of Mary in his article, Luke Against Roman Catholic Mariology<\/a> (10-24-21). I counter with similar arguments, using his incessantly skeptical, cynical methodology (two can play at this game). His words will be in blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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Similarly, she\u2019s mentioned in Acts 1:14, but not in the three decades of church history narrated afterward. No assumption of Mary is mentioned either. . . . if she died within the history covered by the document, especially if she died earlier rather than later, why is there no mention of an assumption? . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Luke\u2019s writings can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the assumption of Mary. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention an assumption of Mary, the less likely it is that she was assumed (e.g., Luke\u2019s failure to mention an assumption despite multiple references to Jesus\u2019 ascension, . . .) . . . Luke is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to an assumption if one had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Mary, he probably was writing after the time of Mary\u2019s death, he was in contact with at least one relative of Jesus (Acts 21:18), . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Matthew\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the ascension of Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention an ascension of Jesus, the less likely it is that He ascended to heaven (e.g., Matthew\u2019s failure to mention His ascension . . .) . . . Matthew is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to His ascension if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

John\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the ascension of Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention an ascension of Jesus, the less likely it is that He ascended to heaven (e.g., John\u2019s failure to mention His ascension . . .) . . . John is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to His ascension if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

[Note: The book of Acts \u201cis usually dated to around 80\u201390 AD, although some scholars suggest 90\u2013110\u201d:<\/span> according to Wikipedia<\/a>. St. Paul\u2019s death, according to the Wikipedia article about him<\/a>, \u201cis believed to have occurred after the\u00a0Great Fire of Rome in July 64, but before the last year of Nero\u2019s reign, in 68.\u201d St. Peter\u2019s death, in the article devoted to him<\/a> \u2013according to \u201cEarly Church tradition\u201d was \u201cat the time of the Great Fire of Rome in the year 64.\u201d]<\/span><\/p>\n

No martyrdom of St. Paul is mentioned [in Acts] either. . . . if he died within the history covered by the document, especially if he died earlier rather than later, why is there no mention of his martyrdom? . . .\u00a0Luke\u2019s writings can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the martyrdom of St. Paul. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention martyrdom of St. Paul, the less likely it is that he was martyred (e.g., Luke\u2019s failure to mention martyrdom of St. Paul . . .) . . . Luke is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the martyrdom of St. Paul if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about St. Paul, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

No martyrdom of St. Peter is mentioned [in Acts] either. . . . if he died within the history covered by the document, especially if he died earlier rather than later, why is there no mention of his martyrdom? . . . Luke\u2019s writings can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the martyrdom of St. Peter. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention martyrdom of St. Peter, the less likely it is that he was martyred (e.g., Luke\u2019s failure to mention martyrdom of St. Peter . . .) . . . Luke is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the martyrdom of St. Peter if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about St. Peter, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Mark\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus, the less likely it is that He was born of a virgin in Bethlehem (e.g., Mark\u2019s failure to mention His virgin birth in Bethlehem, or Bethlehem at all<\/em> in his\u00a0 entire Gospel . . .) . . . Mark is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

John\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus, the less likely it is that He was born of a virgin in Bethlehem (e.g., John\u2019s failure to mention His virgin birth in Bethlehem, . . .) . . . John is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the virgin birth in Bethlehem of Jesus if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Matthew\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention the raising of Lazarus, the less likely it is that Lazarus was raised by Jesus (e.g., Matthew\u2019s failure to mention His being raised from the dead by Jesus . . .) . . . Matthew is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Mark\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention the raising of Lazarus, the less likely it is that Lazarus was raised by Jesus (e.g., Mark\u2019s failure to mention His being raised from the dead by Jesus . . .) . . . Mark is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Luke\u2019s Gospel can be an important part of a cumulative argument when considering an issue like the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus. The more sources we have that show interest in relevant subjects, yet don\u2019t mention the raising of Lazarus, the less likely it is that Lazarus was raised by Jesus (e.g., Luke\u2019s failure to mention His being raised from the dead by Jesus . . .) . . . Luke is the sort of author who would have been in an unusually good position to have referred to the raising of Lazarus from the dead by Jesus if it had occurred. He wrote a lot in relevant contexts, including a substantial amount about Jesus, . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Etc., etc. One gets the analogical \/ satirical point by now . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. They have three sons and a daughter, and reside in southeast Michigan (metro Detroit).","sameAs":["https:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/","https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798","https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@LuxVeritatisApologetics"],"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/author\/davearmstrong"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61687","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2331"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=61687"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/61687\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/61694"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=61687"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=61687"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=61687"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}