{"id":63952,"date":"2022-04-21T10:33:26","date_gmt":"2022-04-21T14:33:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=63952"},"modified":"2022-04-21T10:33:26","modified_gmt":"2022-04-21T14:33:26","slug":"can-christ-peter-both-be-rocks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2022\/04\/can-christ-peter-both-be-rocks.html","title":{"rendered":"Can Christ &#038; Peter Both be &#8220;Rocks&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/04\/Cover-552x833-high-rez-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-63955\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/04\/Cover-552x833-high-rez-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">[see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2012\/03\/books-by-dave-armstrong-biblical-proofs.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">book and purchase information<\/a>]<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 16:18<\/strong> (RSV) And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Catholics have solid exegetical and linguistic reasons (agreed to by <a href=\"http:\/\/phatcatholic.blogspot.com\/2006\/09\/protestant-scholars-on-mt-1616-19.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">many prominent Protestant exegetes<\/a>) for why we believe Jesus was calling Peter himself the rock (not Peter\u2019s faith or Christ Himself). Presently, however, I am dealing with <em>one particular objection<\/em> made to this view: the notion that Scripture elsewhere calls Jesus Christ a \u201cRock\u201d; therefore (so the reasoning goes) Peter can\u2019t<em> possibly<\/em> be called the <em>same thing<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>This simply isn\u2019t true. The objection presupposes what I would argue is an unbiblical and hyper-rationalistic \u201ceither\/or\u201d outlook; whereas the Bible teaches a \u201cboth\/and\u201d point of view.<\/p>\n<p>Here are some of the passages brought up in order to set forth such a view:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 21:42<\/strong>\u00a0Jesus said to them, \u201cHave you never read in the scriptures: \u2018The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord\u2019s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes\u2019?\u201d (cf. Mk 12:10; Lk 20:17-18)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 4:11<\/strong> as it is written, \u201cBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall; and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 9:32-33<\/strong> Why? Because they did not pursue it through faith, but as if it were based on works. They have stumbled over the stumbling stone, [33] as it is written, \u201cBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall; and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Corinthians 10:4<\/strong> . . . For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Peter 2:4, 6-8<\/strong> Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God\u2019s sight chosen and precious; . . . [6] For it stands in scripture: \u201cBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.\u201d [7] To you therefore who believe, he is precious, but for those who do not believe, \u201cThe very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner,\u201d [8] and \u201cA stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall\u201d; for they stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, is this intended to <em>exclude<\/em> anyone else being called a rock or a stone? No. In Scripture, creatures are often called in an essentially lesser sense or degree, things which God is called. There can be such a thing as a Big Rock (God) and a small rock or stone (men or a man). In fact, this is explicit biblical teaching. Note that in the passage from 1 Peter, above, I left out a verse. Here it is:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Peter 2:5<\/strong> and <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">like living stones be yourselves built into a spiritual house<\/span>, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The \u201cspiritual house\u201d is likely referring to the Church. Jesus, in the larger passage, was called a \u201cliving stone\u201d a \u201ccornerstone\u201d and \u201cthe head of the corner.\u201d Yet we Christians are also called \u201cliving stones\u201d in the same passage. Thus, there is no \u201ceither\/or\u201d pattern here. <em>Both<\/em> things can be true. If there can be little stones along with God as the Big Rock, then there can <em>also<\/em> conceivably be the \u201cchief\u201d of these secondary stones, and that would be Peter, based on the data of Matthew 16:18. And there\u2019s more, too:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Ephesians 2:19-22<\/strong> So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">the household of God,<\/span> [20] <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone<\/span>, [21] in whom the<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> whole structure<\/span> is joined together and grows into a <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">holy temple<\/span> in the Lord; [22] in whom you also are <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">built into it<\/span> for a <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">dwelling place of God<\/span> in the Spirit.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is again referring to the Church (2:19), which is \u201cbuilt upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets\u201d (2:20). Thus we have <em>precisely the same notion<\/em> that Catholics contend is expressed in Matthew 16:18: there is a secondary \/ \u201cco-worker\u201d sense in which the Church is built upon men. Here it is the twelve apostles and prophets as well. In Matthew it\u2019s Peter, as the <em>leader<\/em> and foremost of the apostles. And then in the next verse we have the \u201cBig Rock\u201d: \u201cChrist Jesus himself being the cornerstone\u201d. So there is no false dichotomy. One is not in opposition to the other. Another passage teaches the same thing (without mentioning Jesus in this particular instance):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Revelation 21:14<\/strong> And the wall of the city had<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> twelve foundations<\/span>, and on them the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This sort of typology is, as I stated, common in Scripture. Catholic apologist Patrick Madrid noted:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Jesus shares his other unique roles in lesser ways with Christians.<\/p>\n<p>1) Jesus is the Creator of all things (John 1:1-3, Col 1:16-17, Heb 1:1-2), yet when it comes to creating human life Jesus shares this role with men and women, mediating his creatorship through us via sexual intercourse . . . [making] his role as Creator dependent in a way on human action.<\/p>\n<p>2) Jesus is the shepherd of his flock the Church (Jn 10:16), yet he shares his shepherdhood in a subordinate way with others, beginning with Peter (Jn 21:15-17) and extending it later to others (Eph 4:11) . . . Jesus says he\u2019s the only shepherd (Jn 10:11-16), yet this seemingly exclusive statement doesn\u2019t conflict with him making Peter shepherd . . . or with his calling others to be shepherds as well (Eph 4:11). Peter emphasizes that Jesus shares his role as shepherd with others by calling Jesus the chief shepherd . . . (1 Pet 5:4). Note also that the Greek construction of John 10:16 . . . is the same as 1 Timothy 2:5 (. . . one mediator . . .). The apostles and their successors the bishops, are truly shepherds also.<\/p>\n<p>3) Jesus is the high priest of the New Covenant . . . (Heb 3:1, 4:14-15, 5:5-10, 7:15-26, 8:1, 9:11). But the Bible also says Christians are called to share in Christ\u2019s priesthood (1 Pet 2:5-9; Rev 1:6, 5:10, 20:6).<\/p>\n<p>4) Jesus is the supreme judge (Jn 5:27, 9:39; Rom 14:10; 2 Cor 5:10; 2 Tim 4:1), yet Christians are called to share in Christ\u2019s judgeship. They will be judges in heaven, even judging the angels (Matt 19:28; Lk 22:30; 1 Cor 6:2-3; Rev 20:4).<\/p>\n<p>5) Jesus is the sovereign king of the universe (Mk 15:32; 1 Tim 6:15; Rev 15:3, 17:14, 19:16), but he shares his kingship with all Christians, who in heaven will wear crowns, sit on thrones, and reign as kings alongside Jesus \u2013 but always subordinate to him . . . (see also Matt 19:23; Lk 22:30; Rev 1:6, 3:21, 5:10).<\/p>\n<p>6) Jesus forgives our sins and reconciles us to the Father (2 Cor 5:18-21), but he calls us to share in various ways in his ministry of forgiveness and reconciliation (Matt 9:5-8, 18:18; Jn 20:21-2; Acts 2:38; 2 Cor 5:18-20; James 5:14-15) . . .<\/p>\n<p>Each Christian is called to share in these roles in subordinate ways. The principle of sharing in Christ\u2019s roles extends, in the form of intercessory prayer, to Christ\u2019s mediatorship as well.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholic.com\/magazine\/print-edition\/any-friend-of-god-is-a-friend-of-mine\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cAny Friend of God\u2019s is a Friend of Mine\u201d<\/a>, <em>This Rock<\/em>, Sep. 1992, 7-13; quote from 10-12; numbers added)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I can think of at least two other things off the top of my head. We are \u201cco-workers\u201d with God (\u201cwe are God\u2019s fellow workers\u201d: 1 Cor 3:9; \u201cWorking together with him\u201d: 2 Cor 6:1; \u201d the Lord worked with them\u201d: Mk 16:20; \u201cI worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God which is with me\u201d: 1 Cor 15:10; \u201cwork out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for God is at work in you\u201d: Phil 2:12-13).<\/p>\n<p>And God even shares His <em>glory<\/em> with us:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>John 17:22\u00a0<\/b>The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them, . . .<\/p>\n<p><b>Romans 5:2<\/b>\u00a0Through him we have obtained access to this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in our hope of\u00a0sharing the glory of God.<\/p>\n<p><b>Romans 9:23<\/b> in order to make known\u00a0the riches of his glory for the vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory,<\/p>\n<p><b>2 Corinthians 3:18<\/b> And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being changed into his likeness from one degree of glory to another; . . .<\/p>\n<p><b>1 Thessalonians 2:12<\/b>\u00a0to lead a life worthy of God, who calls you into his own kingdom and\u00a0glory.<\/p>\n<p><b>2 Thessalonians 2:14<\/b>\u00a0To this he called you through our gospel, so that you may\u00a0obtain the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.<\/p>\n<p><b>1 Peter 4:14<\/b>\u00a0If you are reproached for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because\u00a0the spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.<\/p>\n<p><b>1 Peter 5:1<\/b>\u00a0So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ as well as\u00a0a partaker in the glory that is to be revealed. (cf. 5:4)<\/p>\n<p><b>2 Peter 1:3-4<\/b>\u00a0His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him\u00a0who called us to his own glory\u00a0and excellence, [4] by which he has granted to us his precious and very great promises, that through these you may escape from the corruption that is in the world because of passion, and\u00a0become partakers of the divine nature.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Therefore, would Jesus call Peter the \u201cRock\u201d upon whom He would build His Church? Yes! No problem at all! There is no prior, presuppositional scriptural difficulty or improbability in that, and we have additional compelling exegetical and linguistic reasons, too, for believing it.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>: Perhaps some of my 4,000+ free online articles (the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site) or\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/06\/dave-armstrongs-catholic-apologetics-bookstore-49-books-paperback-e-pub-mobi-nook-book-amazon-kindle-itunes-pdf-rock-bottom-regular-prices-67-savings-for-e-books-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fifty books<\/a>\u00a0have helped you (by God\u2019s grace) to decide to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">become Catholic<\/a>\u00a0or to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">return to the Church<\/a>,\u00a0or better understand some doctrines and\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/the-biblical-basis-of-apologetics-defense-of-christianity.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>why<\/em>\u00a0we believe them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. 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To learn about the different methods of contributing, including 100% tax deduction, etc., see my page:\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/about-dave-armstrong-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">About Catholic Apologist Dave Armstrong \/ Donation Information<\/a>.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks a million<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0from the bottom of my heart!<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: The usual (but not universal) Protestant answer to the question: Can Christ &amp; Peter Both be \u201cRocks\u201d? is \u201cno.\u201d I show, however, how it is altogether biblically plausible.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[see book and purchase information] Matthew 16:18 (RSV) And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. They have three sons and a daughter, and reside in southeast Michigan (metro Detroit).\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/author\/davearmstrong\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Can Christ & Peter Both be \"Rocks\"? Can Christ & Peter Both be \"Rocks\"?","description":"Matthew 16:18 (RSV) And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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