{"id":64737,"date":"2022-06-03T10:01:00","date_gmt":"2022-06-03T14:01:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=64737"},"modified":"2022-06-03T10:01:00","modified_gmt":"2022-06-03T14:01:00","slug":"calvin-marys-perpetual-virginity-vs-francisco-tourinho","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2022\/06\/calvin-marys-perpetual-virginity-vs-francisco-tourinho.html","title":{"rendered":"Calvin &#038; Mary&#8217;s Perpetual Virginity (vs. Francisco Tourinho)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/06\/Mary32.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-64739\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/06\/Mary32-207x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"207\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span class=\"nc684nl6\"><a class=\"oajrlxb2 g5ia77u1 qu0x051f esr5mh6w e9989ue4 r7d6kgcz rq0escxv nhd2j8a9 nc684nl6 p7hjln8o kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x jb3vyjys rz4wbd8a qt6c0cv9 a8nywdso i1ao9s8h esuyzwwr f1sip0of lzcic4wl gmql0nx0 gpro0wi8 decorated-link\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/francisco.tourinho.37?comment_id=Y29tbWVudDo1NTkzMjkyMTg0MDM5MDU0XzEyMjkwMjM4NTQ1MDYyNTQ%3D&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZX-V8DvIlHRNrsG4UF2lp_RHSmzgoqF-G-4PJzV7s5wr9hyN4E-1TsXgwGifN_iEhudE0_CGAMYG_Ac6h43LTwAudnOVwCTZaCTvPrleG6dkz2KpY-r4tMzOfNWgtgeA2SVZqLNqoG--8bgnJJU_YvZ&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\">Francisco Tourinho<\/span><\/span><\/a><span class=\"pq6dq46d\"><span class=\"d2edcug0 hpfvmrgz qv66sw1b c1et5uql lr9zc1uh a8c37x1j fe6kdd0r mau55g9w c8b282yb keod5gw0 nxhoafnm aigsh9s9 d9wwppkn mdeji52x e9vueds3 j5wam9gi lrazzd5p oo9gr5id\" dir=\"auto\"> is a Brazilian Calvinist apologist. He described his theological credentials <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798\/posts\/5593292184039054?comment_id=4926187847504270&amp;reply_comment_id=1229023854506254&amp;__cft__%5B0%5D=AZX-V8DvIlHRNrsG4UF2lp_RHSmzgoqF-G-4PJzV7s5wr9hyN4E-1TsXgwGifN_iEhudE0_CGAMYG_Ac6h43LTwAudnOVwCTZaCTvPrleG6dkz2KpY-r4tMzOfNWgtgeA2SVZqLNqoG--8bgnJJU_YvZ&amp;__tn__=R%5D-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">on my Facebook page<\/a>:<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have the respect of the academic community for my articles published in peer review magazines, translation of unpublished classical works into Portuguese and also the production of a book in the year 2019 with more than 2000 copies sold (with no marketing). In addition I have higher education in physical education from Piau\u00ed State University and theology from the <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/pentecostal' target='_blank'>Assemblies of God<\/a> Biblical Institute, am currently working towards a Masters from Covenant Baptist Theological Seminary, and did post-graduate work at Dom Bosco Catholic University. Also, I am a professor in the Reformed Scholasticism discipline at the Jonathan Edwards Seminary in the postgraduate course in Philosophical Theology. [edited slightly for more flowing English]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"ecm0bbzt e5nlhep0 a8c37x1j\">\n<div class=\"kvgmc6g5 cxmmr5t8 oygrvhab hcukyx3x c1et5uql\" style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>This is a reply to his article, <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.calvinismoexplicado.com.br\/2018\/06\/27\/joao-calvino-defendia-a-virgindade-perpetua-de-maria\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cJO\u00c3O CALVINO DEFENDIA A VIRGINDADE PERP\u00c9TUA DE MARIA?\u201d<\/a> [<em>Did John Calvin Defend the Perpetual Virginity of Mary?<\/em>] (6-27-18). His words will be in<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"> blue<\/span>, John Calvin\u2019s in <span style=\"color: #008000;\">green<\/span>.<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Today I came across the following quote:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">There were certain people who wanted to suggest from this passage [Mt 1,25] that the Virgin Mary had other children besides the Son of God, and that Joseph was intimately related to her afterwards; but what stupidity! The gospel writer did not intend to record what happened afterwards; he simply wanted to make Joseph\u2019s obedience clear (\u2026). He therefore never dwelt with her nor shared her company (\u2026). Furthermore, Our Lord Jesus Christ is called the firstborn. This is not because there was a second or a third son, but because the Gospel writer is stressing his precedence.<\/span>\u2014 John Calvin. Sermon on Matthew 1:22-25. Year 1562 (Max Thurian. <em>Mary: Mother of All Christians<\/em> (translated by Nevill B. Cryer, New York: Herder &amp; Herder, 1963, pp. 39-40)\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The friend who defended the Marian dogma of perpetual virginity categorically stated, through this source (Max Thurian apud Calvino), that the great reformer defended the Marian dogma. I went looking for the source, and I found the same quote on several Catholic apologetics websites, but they all look like this, a quote, that is, a secondary source.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This was almost certainly derived, or indirectly derived from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/calvin-held-to-marys-perpetual-virginity-w-tim-staples.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">one of my blog articles<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I also looked for the sermon quoted by the apologists, attributed to John Calvin, and I didn\u2019t find it either.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>You\u2019ve come to the right place, then, because I ran across the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/10\/john-calvin-sermon-22-on-matthew-122-25-marys-perpetual-virginity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">original primary source in French<\/a>. I didn\u2019t have it at first (or else I would have cited it). Then I did. It has been posted on my blog since 10-14-14: three years and eight months before the article I am now critiquing.<\/p>\n<p>But first, let\u2019s look at the quotation I produced: longer than the above \u201cabridged\u201d version:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> There have been certain strange folk who have wished to suggest from this passage [Matt 1:25] that the Virgin Mary had other children than the Son of God, and that Joseph had then dwelt with her later; but what folly this is! for the gospel writer did not wish to record what happened afterwards; he simply wished to make clear Joseph\u2019s obedience and to show also that Joseph had been well and truly assured that it was God who had sent His angel to Mary. He had therefore never dwelt with her nor had he shared her company. There we see that he had never known her person for he was separated from his wife. He could marry another all the more because he could not enjoy the woman to whom he was betrothed; but he rather desired to forfeit his rights and abstain from marriage, being yet always married: he preferred, I say, to remain thus in the service of God rather than to consider what he might still feel that he could come to. He had forsaken everything in order that he might subject himself fully to the will of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">And besides this, our Lord Jesus Christ is called the first-born. This is not because there was a second or a third, but because the gospel writer is paying regard to the precedence. Scripture speaks thus of naming the first-born whether or no there was any question of the second. Thus we see the intention of the Holy Spirit. This is why to lend ourselves to foolish subtleties would be to abuse Holy Scripture, which is, as St. Paul says, \u201cto be used for our edification.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>From this we learn several things:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>1. It serves as a further interpretation or clarification of his allegedly \u201cagnostic\u201d commentary on Matthew 1:25, as actually affirming perpetual virginity.<\/p>\n<p>2. It shows that his denial of a vow of perpetual virginity from Mary is not necessarily and not in fact the same as a denial of her perpetual virginity.<\/p>\n<p>3. Calvin does indeed believe in the traditional doctrine, as we see in his statement:<span style=\"color: #008000;\"> \u201cnot because there was a second or a third\u201d<\/span> and his assertion that Joseph never dwelt with Mary. Mary had no further children. This is why he habitually refers to her as <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cthe virgin\u201d<\/span> in his writings, much like Catholics have through the centuries. It implies perpetual virginity.<\/p>\n<p>4. Since they never lived together, according to Calvin, obviously they had no children together. Thus, Mary was perpetually a virgin.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This 1562 sermon may be one reason why many Protestant (including Calvinist) scholars agree that Calvin adhered to Mary\u2019s perpetual virginity:<\/p>\n<p>David F. Wright, in his book,\u00a0<i>Chosen by God: Mary in Evangelical Perspective<\/i>\u00a0(London: Marshall Pickering, 1989, pp. 173, 175), stated:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>. . . his more careful biblicism could insist on only Mary\u2019s refraining from intercourse before the birth of Jesus (i.e., her virginity\u00a0<i>ante partum<\/i>). On the other hand, he never excluded as untenable the other elements in her perpetual virginity, and may be said to have believed it himself without claiming that Scripture taught it. . . . [Calvin] commonly speaks of Mary as <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cthe holy Virgin\u201d<\/span> (and rarely as simply as \u201cMary\u201d preferring <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cthe Virgin<\/span>\u201d, etc.).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>Thomas Henry Louis Parker, in his\u00a0<i>Calvin: an Introduction to his Thought<\/i>\u00a0(Westminster John Knox Press, 1995), concurs:<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>. . . the Virgin Birth, which Calvin holds, together with the perpetual virginity of Mary. (p. 66)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>He is the author of several books about Calvin, such as\u00a0<i>John Calvin: A Biography<\/i>\u00a0(Westminster John Knox Press, 2007), and\u00a0<i>Oracles Of God: An Introduction To The Preaching Of John Calvin<\/i>\u00a0(Lutterworth Press, 2002),\u00a0<i>Calvin\u2019s New Testament Commentaries<\/i>\u00a0(S.C.M. Press, 1971),\u00a0<i>Calvin\u2019s Preaching<\/i>\u00a0(Westminster John Knox Press, 1992),\u00a0<i>Calvin\u2019s Old Testament Commentaries<\/i>\u00a0(Westminster John Knox Press, 1993), and several other Calvin-related volumes, and translator of Calvin\u2019s\u00a0<i>Harmony of the Gospels<\/i> in its 1995 Eerdmans edition. Presumably, he knows enough about Calvin to have a basis for his beliefs about this matter and Calvin\u2019s own position.<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>The article \u201cMary\u201d (by David F. Wright) in the\u00a0<i>Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith<\/i>\u00a0(edited by\u00a0Donald K. McKim, Westminster John Knox Press,1992, p. 237), proclaims:<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>Calvin was likewise less clear-cut than Luther on Mary\u2019s perpetual virginity but undoubtedly favored it. Notes in the Geneva Bible (Matt. 1:18, 25; Jesus\u2019 \u201cbrothers\u201d) defend it, as did Zwingli and the English reformers . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>Donald G. Bloesch, in his\u00a0<i>Jesus Christ: Savior and Lord<\/i>\u00a0(Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press, 2006, p. 87), joins the crowd:<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>Protestantism . . . remained remarkably open to the idea of Mary\u2019s perpetual virginity. Among others, Luther, Calvin, Zwingli, Wollebius, Bullinger and Wesley claimed that Mary was ever-virgin (<i>semper virgo<\/i>). The Second Helvetic Confession and the Geneva Bible of the Reformed faith and the Schmalkald Articles of the Lutheran churches affirm it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>Geoffrey W. Bromiley\u00a0in his article, \u201cMary the Mother of Jesus\u201d in\u00a0<i>International Standard Bible Encyclopedia: K-P<\/i>\u00a0(edited by Bromiley, revised edition of 1994 published by Eerdmans [Grand Rapids, Michigan], p. 269), wrote:<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>The\u00a0<i>post-partum<\/i>\u00a0or perpetual virginity concept is held by some Protestants and was held by many Reformers (e.g., Calvin in his sermon on Mt. 1:22-25) . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>\n<p>Note that this refers to the\u00a0<i>sermon<\/i>\u00a0I cited above, not just Calvin\u2019s\u00a0<i>Commentaries<\/i>. And this is from the revised ISBE: not a source one can easily dismiss.<\/p>\n<p><b>Derek W. H. Thomas<\/b>, writing in\u00a0<i>A Theological Guide to Calvin\u2019s Institutes: Essays and Analysis<\/i>\u00a0(edited by David W. Hall &amp; Peter A. Lillback; Presbyterian &amp; Reformed Publishing [Calvin 500 series]: 2008, p. 212), makes a casual reference: \u201ca perpetual virgin in Calvin\u2019s view!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>He is a professor of systematic and pastoral theology at Reformed Theological Seminary.\u00a0 His doctoral dissertation was devoted to Calvin\u2019s preaching on the book of Job.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><b>Timothy George\u00a0<\/b>concurs, with slight qualification:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>To be sure, there is nothing theologically problematic about affirming Mary\u2019s perpetual virginity. This venerable tradition, first given dogmatic sanction at the Fifth Ecumenical Council in 553, was affirmed by Luther, Zwingli, and Calvin during the Reformation, though Calvin was more agnostic about this belief than the other two reformers.\u00a0(in\u00a0<i>Mary, Mother of God<\/i>, edited by\u00a0<span class=\"addmd\">Carl E. Braaten and Robert W. Jenson, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans Pub. Co.: 2004;\u00a0\u00a0<\/span>p. 109)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>Dr. George is the dean of Beeson Divinity School at Samford University, teaches Church history and serves as executive editor for\u00a0<i>Christianity Today<\/i>. He has served on the Board of Directors of the Southern Baptist Convention, has written more than twenty books, and regularly contributes to scholarly journals. His book\u00a0<i>Theology of the Reformers<\/i>\u00a0is used as a textbook in many schools and seminaries.<\/p>\n<p><b>J. A. Ross MacKenzie<\/b>\u00a0wrote:\u00a0\u201cCalvin, like Luther and Zwingli, taught the perpetual virginity of Mary\u201d (in Alberic Stacpoole, editor,\u00a0<i>Mary\u2019s Place in Christian Dialogue<\/i>, Wilton, Connecticut: Morehouse-Barlow, 1982, 35-36).\u00a0 Dr. Mackenzie\u00a0was a professor of church history at Union Theological Seminary in Virginia, and has translated or written more than twenty theological books.<\/p>\n<p><b>Robert H. Stein<\/b>, professor of New Testament interpretation at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, also agrees:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>If one believes in the perpetual virginity of Mary, a teaching held not only by Roman Catholicism but also by Greek Orthodoxy, Martin Luther, and John Calvin, then the Helvidian view must be rejected. (<i>Mark<\/i>\u00a0[Commentary], Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Academic: 2008, p. 187)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Calvin\u2019s successor\u00a0Theodore Beza\u00a0argued that Catholics and Protestants agreed on the perpetual virginity of Mary, at the Colloquy of Poissy in 1561 (see William A. Dyrness,\u00a0<i>Reformed Theology and Visual Culture: the Protestant Imagination from Calvin to Edwards<\/i>, [Cambridge University Press, 2004], pp. 86-87). Here are some other Calvin utterances on the topic:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Helvidius displayed excessive ignorance in concluding that Mary must have had many sons, because Christ\u2019s \u201cbrothers\u201d are sometimes mentioned.<\/span> (<i>Harmony of Matthew, Mark and Luke<\/i>, sec. 39 [Geneva, 1562], vol. 2 \/ From\u00a0<i>Calvin\u2019s Commentaries<\/i>, translated by William Pringle, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1949, p.215; on Matthew 13:55)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>[On Matt 1:25:]\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">The inference he [Helvidius] drew from it was, that Mary remained a virgin no longer than till her first birth, and that afterwards she had other children by her husband . . . No just and well-grounded inference can be drawn from these words . . . as to what took place after the birth of Christ. He is called \u201cfirst-born\u201d; but it is for the sole purpose of informing us that he was born of a virgin . . . What took place afterwards the historian does not inform us . . . No man will obstinately keep up the argument, except from an extreme fondness for disputation.<\/span>\u00a0(Pringle,\u00a0<i>ibid<\/i>., vol. I, p. 107)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">John Calvin\u2019s comment on the text quoted by the Catholic apologists\u2019 source also does not suggest that he defended perpetual virginity. Calvin\u2019s text in this part seems to be more cautious, however, we learn from him that the Marian dogma of perpetual virginity was not unanimous among the church fathers, since he cites Helvidius as not defending this thesis, and Jerome, at a later period, disagreeing with Helvidius.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Under the word \u201cbrethren\u201d the Hebrews include all cousins and other relations, whatever may be the degree of affinity.<\/span>\u00a0(Pringle,\u00a0<i>ibid<\/i>., vol. I, p. 283 \/ <em>Commentary on John<\/em>, [7:3] )<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>Also, Calvin habitually calling Mary\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cthe virgin\u201d<\/span> or\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201choly virgin\u201d<\/span>\u00a0(as Calvin scholar T.H.L. Parker noted), is further evidence, since that had always been understood in Church history (I\u2019m pretty sure) as a belief in perpetual virginity, and was clearly understood as such in Calvin\u2019s time. Examples:<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><em>Institutes of the Christian Religion<\/em><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 10:4<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0t<span style=\"color: #008000;\">he blessed Virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [footnote:\u00a0<span id=\"fnf_iv.xi-p34.3\" class=\"mnote\"><span class=\"Footnote\">\u201cBeata Virgo.\u201d French, <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cla Vierge Marie;\u201d<\/span>\u2014the\u00a0<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span><\/span><\/span>Virgin\u00a0<span id=\"fnf_iv.xi-p34.3\" class=\"mnote\"><span class=\"Footnote\">Mary]<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><br>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xiv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 13:3<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">. . . being descended of\u00a0the Virgin; . . . nourished to maturity in\u00a0the Virgin\u2019s\u00a0womb. . . . Matthew does not here describe\u00a0the Virgin\u00a0. . .<\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xiv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 13:4<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\"> conceived miraculously in\u00a0the Virgin\u2019s\u00a0womb<\/span> . . .<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 14:1<\/a>\u00a0. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">he made choice of\u00a0the\u00a0Virgin\u2019s\u00a0womb as a temple in which he might dwell.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 14:4<\/a>\u00a0. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">the name of the Son of God is given to him who is born of a\u00a0Virgin, and\u00a0the\u00a0Virgin\u00a0herself is called the\u00a0<span id=\"iv.xv-Page_419\" class=\"pb\"><\/span>mother of our Lord<\/span> (<a id=\"iv.xv-p20.1\" class=\"scripRef decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/bible\/asv.Luke.1.html#Luke.1.32\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"_Luke_1_32_0_0\">Luke 1:32<\/a>,\u00a0<a id=\"iv.xv-p20.2\" class=\"scripRef decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/bible\/asv.Luke.1.html#Luke.1.43\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" name=\"_Luke_1_43_0_0\">43<\/a>).<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 14:5\u00a0<\/a>. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">he was begotten in the womb of\u00a0the\u00a0<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span>Virgin\u00a0by the Holy Spirit. . . . We indeed acknowledge that the Mediator who was born of\u00a0the Virgin<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span>\u00a0is properly the Son of God.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 14:6<\/a>\u00a0. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">He who was born of a\u00a0Virgin, . . .<\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/institutes.iv.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">II, 14:8<\/a>\u00a0. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">he was conceived in the womb of\u00a0the Virgin<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span> by the Holy Spirit . . .<\/span><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><em>Harmony of the Gospels<\/em><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 1:18<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 1:19<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 1:22<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [twice]<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xv.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 1:23<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xxiii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 2:16<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgi<\/span>n\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xli.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Matthew 5:6<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the Virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:26<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:28<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:30<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">The holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:31<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [twice]<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:32<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:34<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">The holy virgin<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span>\u00a0appears to confine the power of God . . . the mind of\u00a0the virgin<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span>,. . .\u00a0the holy virgin\u00a0. . .\u00a0the virgin\u00a0. . .\u00a0the virgin\u00a0. . .\u00a0<\/span><span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span>[Calvin in the same section denies that this passage suggests a\u00a0vow\u00a0of perpetual virginity made by Mary]<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:35<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">He only leads\u00a0the virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<br>\n<span id=\"searchHighlight\"><\/span><\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:36<\/a>\u00a0. . . <span style=\"color: #008000;\">the mother of\u00a0the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.vii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:38<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\"> the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [three times]<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.viii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:39<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0the Virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.ix.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:46<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [twice]<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.ix.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:48<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.ix.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 1:49<\/a>\u00a0. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xxii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 2:34<\/a>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">The holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xxii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 2:35<\/a>. . .\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . .<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/calvin\/calcom31.ix.xxvi.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Luke 2:48<\/a>\u00a0. . .<span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u00a0the holy virgin<\/span>\u00a0. . . [twice]<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div>This is not simply referring to the virgin birth. Think about it. We don\u2019t call women who are married now and sexually active, \u201cvirgins\u201d their whole lives and thereafter. That would make no sense, since they ceased being virgins. It is as illogical as calling them \u201cchildren\u201d when they are adults. They\u2019re not lifetime eunuchs or celibates or virgins. They were simply one thing and then another, by virtue of getting older and passing into the state of marriage. They did not have the gift of celibacy that Calvin acknowledged, per clear Pauline teaching.<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>Calvin didn\u2019t even use the phraseology of\u00a0<i>Theotokos<\/i> [\u201cMother of God\u201d] (as Luther and many other Protestants \u2014 even in some confessions \u2014 did), so I think that if he continued to use \u201choly virgin\u201d that it is more plausible to believe that he retained the traditional view than that he did not. Otherwise, it stands to reason that he would cease using that title for her, too, since he was well familiar with historical usage and patristic teachings. Therefore this is another relevant evidence of Calvin\u2019s position, by both linguistic and commonsense criteria, and it\u2019s direct.<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Not satisfied, I did some research on what John Calvin thought on the matter, and look at Calvin\u2019s opinion, in Luke 1:34, Calvin comments:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">The conjecture which some have drawn from these words, that she had formed a vow of perpetual virginity, is UNFOUNDED and COMPLETELY ABSURD. She would, in that case, have committed treason, allowing herself to be joined to her husband, and would have poured contempt on the sacred covenant of marriage; which could not have been done without scorning God. Though the Papists exercised a barbarous tyranny on this subject, they never went so far as to permit the wife to form a vow of continence at her own pleasure. Furthermore, it is an idle and unfounded assumption that a monastic life existed among the Jews.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, at first glance, the evidence from this comment did seem fairly compelling against my stated position. But I knew (because I had documented it previously) that many Calvinist\u00a0 scholars and other Protestant experts on Calvin agree that he <i>did\u00a0<\/i>accept the perpetual virginity, and so I wondered why that is, and I started digging for more information. I found another related citation, that I think affirms what I and others have been arguing, lo, these many years. [the one at the top, from a 1562 sermon]<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, it wasn\u2019t a question of corrupting marriage, since for Calvin, they never lived together and thus were not <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cunited.\u201d<\/span> Thus, the difficulty for the belief that he held to the perpetual virginity of Mary, suggested <i>prima facie<\/i>\u00a0by his comment on Luke 1:34 vanishes. For Calvin,\u00a0<i>both<\/i>\u00a0things are true: Mary didn\u2019t make such a vow and they didn\u2019t live together in a chaste fashion, since he thinks they didn\u2019t live together\u00a0<i>at all<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Another internal argument based on Calvin\u2019s own commentaries can be produced. I alluded to it in on page 60 of my 2010 book,\u00a0<i>\u201cThe Catholic Mary\u201d: Quite Contrary to the Bible?<\/i>\u00a0In his\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.briarchasechurch.org\/V6A-E\/CAL_HAG2.PDF\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Harmony of the Gospels<\/i><\/a>\u00a0(Vol. II, p. 65; \u201ctranslated from the original Latin and collated with the author\u2019s French version, by William Pringle), Calvin is commenting on Luke 8:19 (\u201cAnd his mother and his brethren came to him\u201d), and\u00a0 casually mentions that the parallel passages of \u201cthe other two Evangelists . . . represent Christ\u2019s mother and\u00a0<i>cousins<\/i>\u00a0as having come . . .\u201d (my italics). The other two passages are the following (RSV):<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p><b>Matthew 12:46<\/b>\u00a0While he was still speaking to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood outside, asking to speak to him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><b>Mark 3:31<\/b>\u00a0And his mother and his brothers came; and standing outside they sent to him and called him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is fascinating. Calvin is not being neutral or agnostic here<i>\u00a0at all<\/i>, as to the specific meaning of\u00a0<i>adelphos<\/i>\u00a0in these instances. He has taken a definite position: it means \u201ccousins.\u201d He believes that Jesus doesn\u2019t have siblings and that these instances of<i>\u00a0adelphos<\/i>\u00a0\/\u00a0<i>adelphe\u00a0<\/i>\/ \u201cbrothers\u201d \/ \u201cbrethren\u201d do not prove otherwise (as countless contrary arguments against perpetual virginity falsely assume is the case). Calvin adopted the classic \u201ccousins\u201d theory as to the meaning of \u201cJesus\u2019 brothers\u201d in Scripture (which is the usual view that Catholic commentators take).<\/p>\n<p>Nor is there any hint of \u201cwaffling\u201d on Calvin\u2019s part, as far as I can tell, in all of this information, taken together. My take is a perfectly plausible and self-consistent explanation for all of it, in line with what the Calvin scholars also say: he believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary. He didn\u2019t \u201cwaffle\u201d on it; he didn\u2019t appear to change his view over time, He simply wasn\u2019t quite as\u00a0<i>explicit\u00a0<\/i>as Luther and others were, on this question. It requires a little digging to ascertain his position (which I have done).<\/p>\n<p>I also don\u2019t think that Calvin was \u201cneutral\u201d or \u201cagnostic\u201d regarding Matthew 1:25 and the notorious \u201cuntil\u201d argument of those who deny perpetual virginity. That text neither asserts nor denies perpetual virginity in and of\u00a0<i>itself<\/i>. That far, we all agree, I think. What detractors of the doctrine do is insinuate that \u201cuntil\u201d\u00a0 implies sexual activity on Mary\u2019s part after the birth of Jesus. Calvin firmly responds that it does\u00a0<i>no such thing<\/i>. He shoots down this very common argument, made by Protestants all the time today. He responds precisely as a Catholic apologist would: arguing that the text doesn\u2019t in any fashion\u00a0 prove what it is claimed that it supposedly proves.<\/p>\n<p>To me, that is not an agnostic or uncommitted position at all. It is in\u00a0<i>favor<\/i>\u00a0of perpetual virginity (or if we want to nitpick) totally consistent with it, and inconsistent with one of the most common biblical arguments made against it. The \u201cbrothers\u201d argument is the other most common (and thoroughly fallacious) argument made. Calvin points out that the word doesn\u2019t have to always mean \u201csiblings.\u201d He\u2019s exactly right.<\/p>\n<p>But if that sounds neutral or agnostic at his commentary on Matthew 13:55, it ain\u2019t when he comments on Luke 8:19 (and also on Mathew and Mark) and says that the meaning of \u201cbrothers\u201d in the parallel passages is \u201ccousins\u201d. He is no longer neutral or undecided or uncommitted or agnostic. He has taken a position. And it is exactly what we would\u00a0<i>expect\u00a0<\/i>him to argue, if indeed he holds to the perpetual virginity of Mary, as I believe he did. Furthermore, the 1562 sermon explained how Calvin\u2019s objection to a vow of virginity did not mean he denied the perpetual virginity of Mary.<\/p>\n<p>In another instance of Calvin interpreting a \u201cbrother of Jesus\u201d as a cousin, we have his\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.studylight.org\/commentaries\/cal\/view.cgi?bk=47&amp;ch=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">commentary on Galatians 1:19<\/a>\u00a0(\u201cBut I saw none of the other apostles except James the Lord\u2019s brother.\u201d):<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\">\n<div><i>Except James.\u00a0<\/i>Who this James was, deserves inquiry. Almost all the ancients are agreed that he was one of the disciples, whose surname was \u201cOblias\u201d and \u201cThe Just,\u201d and that he presided over the church at Jerusalem.\u00a0<span class=\"emphasis bold\">(33)<\/span>\u00a0Yet others think that he was the son of Joseph by another wife, and others (which is more probable) that he was the cousin of Christ by the mother\u2019s side:\u00a0<span class=\"emphasis bold\">(34)<\/span>\u00a0but as he is here mentioned among the apostles, I do not hold that opinion. Nor is there any force in the defense offered by Jerome, that the word Apostle is sometimes applied to others besides the twelve; for the subject under consideration is the highest rank of apostleship, and we shall presently see that he was considered one of the chief\u00a0<i>pillars<\/i>. (<span class=\"scriptRef\">Galatians 2:9<\/span>.) It appears to me, therefore, far more probable, that the person of whom he is speaking is the son of Alpheus.\u00a0<span class=\"emphasis bold\">(35)<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=6aTlU3GSoWYC&amp;pg=PT45&amp;dq=john+calvin,+commentaries,+cousins&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=7fI7VMqLN-ry8AHRl4GQBg&amp;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;q=john%20calvin%2C%20commentaries%2C%20cousins&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Footnote 35\u00a0<\/a>elaborates:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>This is fully consistent with the opinion commonly held, that Alpheus or Cleopas was the husband of the sister of Mary, the mother of our Lord, and consequently that James, the son of Alpheus, was our Lord\u2019s cousin-german.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All of this is perfectly consistent with, if not direct evidence of, Calvin\u2019s belief in the perpetual virginity of Mary.<\/p>\n<p>I then went searching for the 1562 sermon in question. I had an idea where it might be found, and wrote in one thread:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>I think the sermon would likely be part of the\u00a0<i>Corpus Reformatorum<\/i>, since\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Corpus_Reformatorum#Series_II:_Ioannis_Calvini.2C_Opera_Quae_Supersunt_Omnia_.E2.80.93_Volumes_29-_87\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">volumes 29-87 are devoted to his works<\/a>. It\u2019s in Latin (unless some stuff is French). We just have to figure out what volume it\u2019s in. Many volumes are available in Google Books.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I started looking through online volumes; went to the index volume and found \u201cSermons on the Nativity\u201d in Volume 46. I then wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>I\u2019m almost certain I found it.\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/archive-ouverte.unige.ch\/vital\/access\/manager\/Repository\/unige:650?query=calvin&amp;f0=creator%3A%22Calvin%2C+Jean%22\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Go to this link<\/a>\u00a0and download the pdf of vol. 46 (\u201cTome 46\u201d) of the\u00a0<i>Corpus Reformatorum<\/i>. It\u2019s called \u201cSermon 22\u201d on the Harmony of the Gospels, dealing with Matthew 1:22-25, and runs from pp. 259-272. It\u2019s in French.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I did that, and cut-and-pasted the entire sermon.\u00a0 Google and Babylon translation pages revealed that it was indeed the sermon in question, based on a comparison to the Thurian version (above). I then\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/10\/calvin-sermon-22-on-matthew-122-25.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">posted it on a separate web page<\/a>, and asked on Facebook if anyone could translate the last portion of it. Gregory Fast did so. Here is his translation of the key portion of this sermon:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\">Certainly, it is said that he did not know the Virgin until she gave birth to her first Son. By this, the Evangelist means to signify that Joseph did not take his wife to live with him, but in obedience to God and to\u00a0 discharge his duty towards Him. It was not then to be carnal love, nor to take advantage of the situation, or any reason at all, that he took his wife, but it was to obey God, and to accept the grace he had been offered: as that was a blessing beyond estimation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\">See, that is what we have to remember. But there were some crazy people who wanted to gather from this passage that the Virgin Mary had had other children than the Son of God, after Joseph had lived with her, but it is foolish to think that because the Evangelist would not recite what happened afterwards: he only wants to declare the obedience of Joseph, and how he showed a well-certified tenderness in that God sent his angel to him.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[Google Translate: <span style=\"color: #800000;\">\u201c<\/span><span class=\"Y2IQFc\" lang=\"en\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">But there have been some, fantastic who wanted to gather from this passage that the Virgin Mary had other children than the Son of God, and that Joseph had then afterwards dwelt with her: but that is madness.\u201d<\/span>]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\">He never lived with her. He never had her company. And there we see that [he] took no regard for himself because he was deprived of a woman. He could have married another, but he could not swear off the woman he had engaged. But better he leave his beloved rights and abstain from marriage (even though all the while he was married), he preferred to remain so as to employ the service of God, while watching what came over him through his agreement.\u00a0<\/span><br>\n<span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\"><br>\nHe forgot all these things in order to submit fully to God. And in the rest (of the account) of our Lord Jesus Christ, he is called the first born; there was not a second, nor a third, but the Evangelist looks only to the first. And Scripture speaks thus of naming the first born, again that there may be no second.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\">So we see the intention of the Holy Ghost: and yet we must abandon these crazy subtleties; it would be abuse of the holy Scripture, to us a not even useful edification, as St. Paul says.<\/span><br>\n<span class=\"UFICommentBody\" style=\"color: #008000;\"><br>\nAnd besides, when men are like fretillans, and they have the ticklish ears to listen to speculative news, it is necessary that the devil has done so they may harden, and we seek the right way, and they disturb rather than have the sky and land, they maintain their mistakes and dreams with diabolical obstinacy, especially all the more must we strive to be sober to receive the doctrine given to us to accept the Redeemer to us from God the Father, being knowledgeable and virtuous, we learn from this to keep us fully to him as we prostrate ourselves before the majesty of our good God, etc.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Also in Matthew 1:18, the Reformer comments:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">The phrase employed by the Evangelist, \u2018before they cohabited,\u2019 is a modest appellation for the conjugal relationship, or simply means \u2018before they came to dwell together as husband and wife, Forming a home and a family.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">As we have seen, Calvin clearly rejects the interpretation that Mary is a virgin always a virgin, which leads us to the conclusion that the source they use is false, and so we will defend it until they show us the primary source of this quote that they use so much in several websites. . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Y2IQFc\" lang=\"en\" style=\"color: #0000ff;\">We conclude that the arguments of Catholic apologists lack solidity, since it is a secondary source, and John Calvin himself totally contradicts what is said in it. If this argument is used again, I consent that the brothers demand the primary source (ask for the pdf or link or even the photo of the book that contains the sermon) of the quote presented by the Catholic apologist and then present Calvin\u2019s thought on the subject.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I produced the primary source, and as far as I am concerned, it\u2019s decisive in showing that Calvin believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary in 1562: two years before his death.\u00a0What has been translated is compelling. It would be very difficult to synthesize it with a view that he denied the perpetual virginity of Mary.<\/p>\n<p>I used Google Translate to see if I could find any more \u201cclues\u201d in it. I gave up looking through the whole thing, since it was so long, but I added one alternate reading to the Fast translation above.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>: Perhaps some of my 4,000+ free online articles (the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site) or\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/06\/dave-armstrongs-catholic-apologetics-bookstore-49-books-paperback-e-pub-mobi-nook-book-amazon-kindle-itunes-pdf-rock-bottom-regular-prices-67-savings-for-e-books-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fifty books<\/a>\u00a0have helped you (by God\u2019s grace) to decide to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">become Catholic<\/a>\u00a0or to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">return to the Church<\/a>,\u00a0or better understand some doctrines and\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/the-biblical-basis-of-apologetics-defense-of-christianity.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>why<\/em>\u00a0we believe them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. 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I\u2019m always in need of more funds: especially\u00a0<em>monthly<\/em>\u00a0support. \u201cThe laborer is worthy of his wages\u201d (1 Tim 5:18, NKJV). 1 December 2021 was my 20th anniversary as a\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/my-literary-resume.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">full-time Catholic apologist<\/a>,\u00a0and February 2022 marked the 25th anniversary of my blog.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/us\/webapps\/mpp\/sem\/account-selection-signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PayPal donations<\/a>\u00a0are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. You\u2019ll see the term \u201cCatholic Used Book Service\u201d, which is my old side-business. To learn about the different methods of contributing, including 100% tax deduction, etc., see my page:\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/about-dave-armstrong-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">About Catholic Apologist Dave Armstrong \/ Donation Information<\/a>.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks a million<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0from the bottom of my heart!<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit: <\/strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Annunciation<\/em>\u00a0(c. 1489), by Pietro Perugino (1448-1523)<\/span>\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Pietro_Perugino_cat23.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: Brazilian Calvinist apologist Francisco Tourinho demanded the primary source for a 1562 sermon by Calvin on Matthew 1:22-25. I produced it (in 2014), and it\u2019s decisive.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Francisco Tourinho is a Brazilian Calvinist apologist. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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