{"id":65052,"date":"2022-06-24T13:44:55","date_gmt":"2022-06-24T17:44:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=65052"},"modified":"2022-06-24T13:44:55","modified_gmt":"2022-06-24T17:44:55","slug":"thoughts-on-roe-being-overturned","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2022\/06\/thoughts-on-roe-being-overturned.html","title":{"rendered":"Thoughts on Roe Being Overturned"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/06\/Trump3-scaled.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-65055 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/06\/Trump3-237x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"237\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have personally been hoping and praying for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/politics\/2022\/06\/24\/supreme-court-overrules-roe-v-wade-in-dobbs\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">this result<\/a> since I became pro-life in early 1982, after attending a conference on the topic at the evangelical church I was attending then. For about a dozen years prior, I was one of the ignorant masses who wasn\u2019t sure what to believe about it, up till then. Once I learned the facts (especially legalized murder through all nine months, and lots of facts about fetal development), I immediately changed my mind.<\/p>\n<p>I have been very firmly and actively pro-life ever since, including participating in about 25 rescues, from 1988-1990, where we blocked the doors of abortuaries, as an act of civil disobedience and biblical obedience, five arrests, three trials, and a little bit of jail time (just overnight at a \u201cnice\u201d jail for the one time I was convicted of trespassing). Human beings are literally alive and walking around today (more than thirty years old) because of what we did then. I was honored, humbled, and privileged to have been a part of that. As it is, we had to wait another 32 years (my age in 1990) to see this result we have so longed for.<\/p>\n<p>Apart from my ecstatic joy over this decision, I have two main thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>The first is that <em>we still have a <strong>long<\/strong> ways to go<\/em>. Despite this being a wonderful victory for life (the greatest in over fifty years), after the long battle (akin to the battle against slavery), all we have accomplished is letting states decide if they will be \u2018life\u201d or \u201cdeath\u201d states. This is scarcely better than what we had in the 1850s in the United States, with slave states and free states. We figured out (slowly) that slavery was wrong, after a bloody civil war, and passed a constitutional amendment getting rid of it forever. State governments to not determine if life is valuable or not. God does that. We\u2019re all made in His image.<\/p>\n<p>Even after we figured out that slavery was wrong (why did it take so long!?), we know the subsequent sad history of race relations in America. Institutionally sanctioned racism was pretty much wiped out in 1964 with the Civil Rights Act (which passed with proportionately more Republican votes than Democrat), but we <em>still<\/em> had a long ways to go. Things were getting much better, until our beloved Democrats decided to race-bait in every single election, make absolutely <em>everything<\/em> a racial issue, and stoke the fires of strained race relations, making things <em>much<\/em> worse than they would have been. They decided to push the notion that the vast majority of cops are overtly racist, and to endorse the violence and far-left agenda of Black Lives Matter: all of these things have greatly exacerbated existing social problems.<\/p>\n<p>The analogy to the 1850s is obvious. We have to pass a <em>constitutional amendment<\/em> that protects the life of human beings from conception to natural death (preventing euthanasia as well as childkilling). That\u2019s when we will rise to the level of civilization again, and leave our present state of semi-barbarity. But at least we are now \u201csemi-\u201c. About half the states (immediately) will outlaw abortion or have relatively strong prohibitions, or abortion illegal at a fairly early stage.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s great; hundreds of thousands of lives will be saved. But it\u2019s not nearly good <em>enough<\/em>, and it\u2019s nowhere near the Christian view that all lives are sacred and created by God (with our assistance in procreation). A question of murder shouldn\u2019t be left up to each state to decide. That\u2019s a ludicrous notion. Nevertheless, at least states <em>can<\/em> decide whether they will protect the lives of babies in the womb or not. They have been able to do so to an extent, due to subsequent rulings after Roe, but now they will have the<em> full<\/em> legal prerogative and right to do so, with legal and moral monstrosity of Roe overturned at last.<\/p>\n<p>And that means that the truly progressive, consistently Christian and \u201cenlightened\u201d states will be almost wholly the opposite of what was the case in the 1850s. The least progressive states now are \u2014 generally speaking, on the east coast, upper midwest, and west coast. New England was the heart of abolitionist country. Now it\u2019s rabidly pro-death and bloodthirsty. Oh, the ironies . . . The South, which was so pro-slavery, now is the most progressive, consistently Christian, and pro-life region of the country.<\/p>\n<p>It will take a <em>spiritual revival<\/em> to complete the legal work of enshrining the value of all lives in the Constitution (I\u2019ve been saying this for probably over thirty years). We need the vast majority of people to be pro-life to accomplish that goal, not just 53% or whatever it is now: or partially pro-life (in the case of later-term abortions). Pro-lifers will have to keep doing what they have been doing, to \u201cprepare the soil\u201d for such an amendment. But revival comes through prayer and profoundly Christian lives that bear witness to the surrounding dying and rapidly secularizing culture. Do you want to <em>transform<\/em> your culture and help bring about revival? Then live your life in total dedication to God (and especially, have lots of children and raise them as committed disciples of Jesus Christ).<\/p>\n<p>The second thing that is in my mind on this great day is to reflect upon<em> how we <strong>got<\/strong> here<\/em>, and who made it<em> possible<\/em> and who <em>didn\u2019t<\/em>. I hate to sound any sort of \u201cnegative\u201d tone on this day, but if we don\u2019t learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. There are two main immediate <em>reasons<\/em> for why Roe was overturned in a 5-4 decision:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1) President Donald Trump,<\/p>\n<p>and<\/p>\n<p>2) The decision of the GOP-led Senate in February 2016, led by Sen. Mitch McConnell, to hold up the nomination of a new Supreme Court Justice, after the great Justice Scalia died.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let it be remembered that all the RINOs, moderates, independents, swing voters, leftist \u201cnew pro-lifers\u201d, third-party types, and Never-Trumpers who hated President Trump\u2019s guts: largely for irrational and falsehood-based reasons, would have <em>prevented<\/em> this result, had they gotten their way. I can understand skepticism against him at first (I was among the skeptics, and he was initially my next-to-last choice in the primaries), but once Trump made it clear that he was committed to pro-life and to nominating Justices that would uphold pro-life, this skepticism should have stopped: seeing that the life issue is the number one, highest priority in importance (akin to slavery).<\/p>\n<p>President Trump proved to be the most pro-life President since Reagan, and nominated three pro-life Justices: 60% of the Justices who just voted to overturn Roe (Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett). We can also thank both Presidents Bush for the nomination of Justices Thomas and Alito: the other two pro-life votes). Needless to say, no Democrat-appointed Justice voted for life. But the Never-Trumpers <em>still<\/em> hate and despise him. They never learn. They refuse to give up their foolish pride, even though they were <em>clearly<\/em> on the wrong side. They appear to not understand cause-and-effect. Votes change and affect things.<\/p>\n<p>Otherwise orthodox Catholics like Mark Shea and Scott Eric Alt and Simcha Fisher voted for Hillary Clinton and\/or Joe Biden, and justified these atrocious voting decisions with ridiculous rationales that they would be more pro-life than Donald Trump, and that there was no difference between the two parties. May history record how utterly wrong they were. I would cite some of the words they said, but I wish to be at least as charitable as I <em>can<\/em> on this day, and don\u2019t wish to \u201cpile on\u201d. I heartily thank all of you who have voted Republican, and especially if you voted for Donald Trump. You had a direct role in making this possible. Kudos! I thank you on behalf of all the children in the womb who will now be allowed to leave those wombs and have a life in this world.<\/p>\n<p>We see how voting for Congress also made it possible. Had the Republicans not held the leadership of the Senate in 2016, we would have had another pro-death Justice instead of Justice Gorsuch, and Roe would have been <em>upheld<\/em> 5-4, instead of overruled. Votes <em>mean<\/em> things. Republicans are <em>pro-life<\/em>; Democrats are <em>not<\/em>. It\u2019s almost the case to a <em>person<\/em> now (if we are talking about politicians). I don\u2019t always agree with Mitch McConnell: a sort of \u201cmoderate conservative\u201d (and he himself is now an enemy of President Trump). But on this issue, he was dead-on, and he played a crucial role in making this result possible. So the deep thanks of all pro-lifers ought to go out to him, too. Thank you, Senator McConnell, and THANK YOU, President Trump, as well as the five pro-life Justices (Roberts being wishy-washy as usual, and half pro-life, half not), and elder and younger Presidents Bush.<\/p>\n<p>Praise God for all the lives that will now be saved; while at the same time we have a long ways to go to achieve complete victory for life: a constitutional amendment putting an end to this monstrosity and ruthless, heartless barbarity of legal childkilling anywhere in the United States. So keep praying, keep voting Republican, keep participating in or funding things like pro-life crisis pregnancy centers and other aids for women considering abortion, and keep being a witness to the God Who creates life and gives all life its inherent infinite value.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m very proud of my country today, in a way that hasn\u2019t been possible since 1973. We\u2019ve done the right thing. We\u2019ve fought the good fight. But it\u2019s the first steps of a still very long journey to come. So we must continue to \u201cpress on\u201d: as the Apostle Paul wrote.<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Official White House portrait of President Donald J. Trump taken by Shealah Craighead on October 6, 2017 in Washington, D.C.<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Donald_Trump_official_portrait.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: I express my joy and two main thoughts about Roe being overturned and the individual states again being able to determine if they will be progressive or barbaric.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have personally been hoping and praying for this result since I became pro-life in early 1982, after attending a conference on the topic at the evangelical church I was attending then. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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