{"id":66070,"date":"2022-08-24T11:52:55","date_gmt":"2022-08-24T15:52:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=66070"},"modified":"2022-09-01T10:13:23","modified_gmt":"2022-09-01T14:13:23","slug":"turretin-lied-about-the-catholic-view-of-scripture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2022\/08\/turretin-lied-about-the-catholic-view-of-scripture.html","title":{"rendered":"Turretin Lied About the Catholic View of Scripture"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/08\/TurretinBook.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-66049\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/08\/TurretinBook-218x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"218\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Francis_Turretin\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Fran\u00e7ois Turretin<\/a> (1623-1687) was a Genevan-Italian\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Reformed scholastic\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Reformed_scholastic\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reformed scholastic<\/a> theologian, earnest defender of the\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Calvinism\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Calvinism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Calvinistic<\/a>\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Orthodoxy\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Orthodoxy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">orthodoxy<\/a>\u00a0represented by the\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Synod of Dort\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Synod_of_Dort\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Synod of Dort<\/a>, and one of the authors of the\u00a0<i><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Helvetic Consensus\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Helvetic_Consensus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Helvetic Consensus<\/a><\/i> (1675). His\u00a0<em>Institutes of Elenctic Theology<\/em>\u00a0(three parts, Geneva, 1679\u20131685) used the\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Scholasticism\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Scholasticism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">scholastic<\/a> method. It was a popular textbook; notably at <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Princeton Theological Seminary\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Princeton_Theological_Seminary\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Princeton Theological Seminary<\/a>, until it was replaced by <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Charles Hodge\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Charles_Hodge\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Charles Hodge<\/a>\u2018s\u00a0<i>Systematic Theology<\/i> in the late 19th century. Turretin also greatly influenced the <a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Puritan\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Puritan\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Puritans.<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p>I am replying to a portion of a piece from Turretin simply entitled\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.apuritansmind.com\/puritan-favorites\/francis-turretin\/the-scriptures\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe Scriptures\u201d<\/a>: from the website,\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.apuritansmind.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>A Puritan\u2019s Mind<\/em><\/a>. No further information was provided as to what work it is drawn from, but\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/confessionalbibliology.com\/category\/turretins-21-questions\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">a search revealed<\/a>\u00a0that it is from\u00a0<em>Institutes of Elenctic Theology<\/em>. His words will be in\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">QUESTION 3: Was the Holy Scripture written because of the circumstances of the time (<em>occasionaliter<\/em>), and without divine command? Negative, against the Roman Catholics.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I. This question is debated between us and the Roman Catholics, who, in order to minimize the authority and perfection of Scripture, teach not only that it is less than necessary, and that the church could do without it, but even that it was written without any express divine commandment, and simply passed on to the church as a result of special circumstances.<span style=\"color: #000000;\"> [my italics] <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This is sheer nonsense. Here is what the Council of Trent taught about Holy Scripture, in its fourth session in 1546 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.papalencyclicals.net\/councils\/trent\/fourth-session.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Decree Concerning the Canonical Scriptures<\/em><\/a>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>. . . which (Gospel), before promised through the prophets in the holy Scriptures, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, first promulgated with His own mouth, and then commanded to be preached by His Apostles to every creature, as the fountain of all, both saving truth, and moral discipline; and seeing clearly that this truth and discipline are contained in the written books, and the unwritten traditions which, received by the Apostles from the mouth of Christ himself, or from the Apostles themselves, the Holy Ghost dictating, have come down even unto us, transmitted as it were from hand to hand; (the Synod) following the examples of the orthodox Fathers, receives and venerates with an equal affection of piety, and reverence, all the books both of the Old and of the New Testament\u2013seeing that one God is the author of both \u2013as also the said traditions, as well those appertaining to faith as to morals, as having been dictated, either by Christ\u2019s own word of mouth, or by the Holy Ghost, and preserved in the Catholic Church by a continuous succession.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That was 77 years before Turretin was born, and so he was responsible for getting it right and not twisting and distorting what the Catholic Church had authoritatively proclaimed in an ecumenical council.<\/p>\n<p>The First Vatican Council in 1870 reiterated this in even stronger terms, in its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.papalencyclicals.net\/councils\/ecum20.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Dogmatic Constitution on the Catholic Faith<\/em><\/a>, Chapter Two: <em>On Revelation<\/em>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>6) The complete books of the old and the new Testament with all their parts, as they are listed in the decree of the said council and as they are found in the old Latin Vulgate edition, are to be\u00a0received as sacred and canonical.<\/p>\n<p>7) These books the church holds to be sacred and canonical not because she subsequently approved them by her authority after they had been composed by unaided human skill, nor simply because they contain revelation without error, but because, being written under the inspiration of the holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and were as such committed to the church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Likewise, the Second Vatican Council (in much greater depth and precise clarity) stated in its <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vatican.va\/archive\/hist_councils\/ii_vatican_council\/documents\/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation<\/em><\/a> (<em>Dei Verbum<\/em>) on 18 November 1965:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In His goodness and wisdom God chose to reveal Himself and to make known to us the hidden purpose of His will (see Eph. 1:9) by which through Christ, the Word made flesh, man might in the Holy Spirit have access to the Father and come to share in the divine nature (see Eph. 2:18; 2 Peter 1:4). Through this revelation, therefore, the invisible God (see Col. 1;15, 1 Tim. 1:17) out of the abundance of His love speaks to men as friends (see Ex. 33:11; John 15:14-15) and lives among them (see Bar. 3:38), so that He may invite and take them into fellowship with Himself. This plan of revelation is realized by deeds and words having an inner unity: the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation manifest and confirm the teaching and realities signified by the words, while the words proclaim the deeds and clarify the mystery contained in them. By this revelation then, the deepest truth about God and the salvation of man shines out for our sake in Christ, who is both the mediator and the fullness of all revelation. (Ch. 1, 2)<\/p>\n<p>. . . Through the patriarchs, and after them through Moses and the prophets, He taught this people to acknowledge Himself the one living and true God, provident father and just judge, and to wait for the Savior promised by Him, and in this manner prepared the way for the Gospel down through the centuries. (Ch. 1, 3)<\/p>\n<p>Through divine revelation, God chose to show forth and communicate Himself and the eternal decisions of His will regarding the salvation of men. That is to say, He chose to share with them those divine treasures which totally transcend the understanding of the human mind.<\/p>\n<p>As a sacred synod has affirmed, God, the beginning and end of all things, can be known with certainty from created reality by the light of human reason (see Rom. 1:20); but teaches that it is through His revelation that those religious truths which are by their nature accessible to human reason can be known by all men with ease, with solid certitude and with no trace of error, even in this present state of the human race. (Ch. 1, 6)<\/p>\n<p>In His gracious goodness, God has seen to it that what He had revealed for the salvation of all nations would abide perpetually in its full integrity and be handed on to all generations. Therefore Christ the Lord in whom the full revelation of the supreme God is brought to completion (see 2 Cor. 1:20; 3:13; 4:6), commissioned the Apostles to preach to all men that Gospel which is the source of all saving truth and moral teaching, (1) and to impart to them heavenly gifts. This Gospel had been promised in former times through the prophets, and Christ Himself had fulfilled it and promulgated it with His lips. This commission was faithfully fulfilled by the Apostles who, by their oral preaching, by example, and by observances handed on what they had received from the lips of Christ, from living with Him, and from what He did, or what they had learned through the prompting of the Holy Spirit. The commission was fulfilled, too, by those Apostles and apostolic men who under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit committed the message of salvation to writing.\u00a0 (Ch. 2, 7)<\/p>\n<p>. . . Sacred Scripture is the word of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration of the divine Spirit, . . . (Ch. 2, 9)<\/p>\n<p>Those divinely revealed realities which are contained and presented in Sacred Scripture have been committed to writing under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. For holy mother Church, relying on the belief of the Apostles (see John 20:31; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Peter 1:19-20, 3:15-16), holds that the books of both the Old and New Testaments in their entirety, with all their parts, are sacred and canonical because written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author and have been handed on as such to the Church herself. In composing the sacred books, God chose men and while employed by Him they made use of their powers and abilities, so that with Him acting in them and through them, they, as true authors, consigned to writing everything and only those things which He wanted.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, since everything asserted by the inspired authors or sacred writers must be held to be asserted by the Holy Spirit, it follows that the books of Scripture must be acknowledged as teaching solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings for the sake of salvation. Therefore \u201call Scripture is divinely inspired and has its use for teaching the truth and refuting error, for reformation of manners and discipline in right living, so that the man who belongs to God may be efficient and equipped for good work of every kind\u201d (2 Tim. 3:16-17, Greek text). (Ch. 3, 11)<\/p>\n<p>However, since God speaks in Sacred Scripture through men in human fashion, (6) the interpreter of Sacred Scripture, in order to see clearly what God wanted to communicate to us, should carefully investigate what meaning the sacred writers really intended, and what God wanted to manifest by means of their words. . . . (Ch. 3, 12)<\/p>\n<p>. . . the words of God, expressed in human language, have been made like human discourse, . . . (Ch. 3, 13)<\/p>\n<p>. . . The plan of salvation foretold by the sacred authors, recounted and explained by them, is found as the true word of God in the books of the Old Testament: these books, therefore, written under divine inspiration, remain permanently valuable. \u201cFor all that was written for our instruction, so that by steadfastness and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope\u201d (Rom. 15:4). (Ch. 4, 14)<\/p>\n<p>God, the inspirer and author of both Testaments, . . . (Ch. 4, 16)<\/p>\n<p>The word of God, which is the power of God for the salvation of all who believe (see Rom. 1:16), is set forth and shows its power in a most excellent way in the writings of the New Testament. . . . (Ch. 5, 17)<\/p>\n<p>. . . The Church has always and everywhere held and continues to hold that the four Gospels are of apostolic origin. For what the Apostles preached in fulfillment of the commission of Christ, afterwards they themselves and apostolic men, under the inspiration of the divine Spirit, handed on to us in writing: the foundation of faith, namely, the fourfold Gospel, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. (Ch. 5, 18)<\/p>\n<p>Besides the four Gospels, the canon of the New Testament also contains the epistles of St. Paul and other apostolic writings, composed under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, . . . (Ch. 5, 20)<\/p>\n<p>The Church has always venerated the divine Scriptures just as she venerates the body of the Lord, . . . like the Christian religion itself, all the preaching of the Church must be nourished and regulated by Sacred Scripture.. . . (Ch. 6, 21)<\/p>\n<p>Easy access to Sacred Scripture should be provided for all the Christian faithful. That is why the Church from the very beginning accepted as her own that very ancient Greek translation of the Old Testament which is called the septuagint; and she has always given a place of honor to other Eastern translations and Latin ones especially the Latin translation known as the vulgate. But since the word of God should be accessible at all times, the Church by her authority and with maternal concern sees to it that suitable and correct translations are made into different languages, especially from the original texts of the sacred books. And should the opportunity arise and the Church authorities approve, if these translations are produced in cooperation with the separated brethren as well, all Christians will be able to use them. (Ch. 6, 22)<\/p>\n<p>Sacred theology rests on the written word of God, together with sacred tradition, as its primary and perpetual foundation. By scrutinizing in the light of faith all truth stored up in the mystery of Christ, theology is most powerfully strengthened and constantly rejuvenated by that word. For the Sacred Scriptures contain the word of God and since they are inspired, really are the word of God; and so the study of the sacred page is, as it were, the soul of sacred theology. . . . (Ch. 6, 24)<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, all the clergy must hold fast to the Sacred Scriptures through diligent sacred reading and careful study, especially the priests of Christ and others, such as deacons and catechists who are legitimately active in the ministry of the word. This is to be done so that none of them will become \u201can empty preacher of the word of God outwardly, who is not a listener to it inwardly\u201d since they must share the abundant wealth of the divine word with the faithful committed to them, especially in the sacred liturgy. The sacred synod also earnestly and especially urges all the Christian faithful, especially Religious, to learn by frequent reading of the divine Scriptures the \u201cexcellent knowledge of Jesus Christ\u201d (Phil. 3:8). \u201cFor ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.\u201d Therefore, they should gladly put themselves in touch with the sacred text itself, . . . (Ch. 6, 25)<\/p>\n<p>In this way, therefore, through the reading and study of the sacred books \u201cthe word of God may spread rapidly and be glorified\u201d (2 Thess. 3:1) and the treasure of revelation, entrusted to the Church, may more and more fill the hearts of men. Just as the life of the Church is strengthened through more frequent celebration of the Eucharistic mystery, similar we may hope for a new stimulus for the life of the Spirit from a growing reverence for the word of God, which \u201clasts forever\u201d (Is. 40:8; see 1 Peter 1:23-25). (Ch. 6, 26)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">There is no attempt whatsoever to<\/span> \u201c<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">minimize the authority and perfection of Scripture\u201d <span style=\"color: #000000;\">in any of these documents. It\u2019s asserted over and over that the Scriptures came about by God\u2019s will and that the Holy Spirit, working through willing holy apostles, produced the inspired revelation of the Bible. There is not the slightest hint that the Bible was <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cless than necessary\u201d<\/span> or that <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cthe church could do without it.\u201d<\/span> or that it was <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cwritten without any express divine commandment.\u201d<\/span> All of this is lies and falsehood.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">[They also] teach that Christ gave the apostles no commandment to write, <\/span><\/p>\n<p>We know of no such command, if we go by <a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/r\/rsv\/rsv-idx?type=simple&amp;format=Long&amp;q1=write&amp;restrict=New+Testament&amp;size=First+100\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">what is recorded in Scripture<\/a>, but that doesn\u2019t rule out the possibility that He did so but that it wasn\u2019t recorded in the Bible. <em>Dei Verbum<\/em> contradicts what Turretin claims that the Church teaches (though this was after his lifetime, so we take that into consideration):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Christ the Lord . . . commissioned the Apostles to preach to all men that Gospel which is the source of all saving truth and moral teaching, . . . The commission was fulfilled, too, by those Apostles and apostolic men who under the inspiration of the same Holy Spirit committed the message of salvation to writing. (Ch. 2, 7)<\/p>\n<p>The Church has always and everywhere held and continues to hold that the four Gospels are of apostolic origin. For what the Apostles preached in fulfillment of the commission of Christ, afterwards they themselves and apostolic men, under the inspiration of the divine Spirit, handed on to us in writing: the foundation of faith, namely, the fourfold Gospel, according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. (Ch. 5, 18)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I would say that the above was already contained in less developed form in Trent\u2019s declaration:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>. . . which (Gospel), . . . our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, first promulgated with His own mouth, and then commanded to be preached by His Apostles to every creature, as the fountain of all, both saving truth, and moral discipline; and seeing clearly that this truth and discipline are contained in the written books, and the unwritten traditions which, received by the Apostles from the mouth of Christ himself, or from the Apostles themselves, the Holy Ghost dictating, have come down even unto us, . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">and that they had no intention of writing the gospel, except in a secondary sense and because of special circumstances, as Bellarmine argues (<em>De Verbo Dei<\/em>, book 4.3-4).<\/span> [my italics]<\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t examine what Bellarmine wrote (it may not be in English, and I couldn\u2019t find it in a brief search), but I can say for sure that he is not the magisterium. He was allowed of course, to have his opinions, but that\u2019s not magisterially binding on Catholics, like the decrees of ecumenical councils (ratified by popes) are.<\/p>\n<p>The apostles certainly intended to write the Gospels. How could it be otherwise? Does Turretin think they were held at sword-point and forced to write down thoughts that the Catholic Church at Trent stated were \u201cdictated, either by Christ\u2019s own word of mouth, or by the Holy Ghost\u201d? How silly can we <em>get<\/em>? Whatever Bellarmine wrote, I would virtually guarantee can\u2019t possibly be the silliness that Turretin portrays it to be.<\/p>\n<p>Since we have seen how our Protestant friend butchered and thoroughly distorted what Trent decreed, it\u2019s somewhat likely that he did the same with Bellarmine. Bellarmine was, perhaps, merely noting that the apostles<em> did not know at <strong>first<\/strong><\/em> that they were to write the Gospels, since they were extensively preaching, as the primary and most effective means (in a culture where not all could read) of spreading the gospel message at first; and that that was what we see <em>recorded<\/em> in Scripture:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong> Matthew 10:7<\/strong> [RSV]: preach as you go . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark 3:14<\/strong> And he appointed twelve, to be with him, and to be sent out to preach<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark 6:12<\/strong> So they went out and preached that men should repent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark 13:10<\/strong> And the gospel must first be preached to all nations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark 16:15<\/strong> . . . Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mark 16:20<\/strong> they went forth and preached everywhere . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Luke 9:2<\/strong> and he sent them out to preach the kingdom of God and to heal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Luke 9:6<\/strong> And they departed and went through the villages, preaching the gospel and healing everywhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Luke 24:47<\/strong> and that repentance and forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 5:42<\/strong> And every day in the temple and at home they did not cease teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.<\/p>\n<p>[cf. Acts 6:2; 8:4, 12, 25, 40; 9:27, 29; see many more instances in Acts and the books after that in the New Testament (<a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/r\/rsv\/rsv-idx?type=simple&amp;format=Long&amp;q1=preach&amp;restrict=New+Testament&amp;size=First+100\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">link one<\/a> \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/quod.lib.umich.edu\/cgi\/r\/rsv\/rsv-idx?format=Long&amp;restrict=New%20Testament&amp;type=simple&amp;q1=preach&amp;q2=&amp;q3=&amp;amt=100&amp;size=more\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">link two<\/a>) ]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>: Perhaps some of my 4,000+ free online articles (the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site) or\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/06\/dave-armstrongs-catholic-apologetics-bookstore-49-books-paperback-e-pub-mobi-nook-book-amazon-kindle-itunes-pdf-rock-bottom-regular-prices-67-savings-for-e-books-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">fifty books<\/a>\u00a0have helped you (by God\u2019s grace) to decide to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">become Catholic<\/a>\u00a0or to\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">return to the Church<\/a>,\u00a0or better understand some doctrines and\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/the-biblical-basis-of-apologetics-defense-of-christianity.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>why<\/em>\u00a0we believe them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. 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To learn about the different methods of contributing, including 100% tax deduction, etc., see my page:\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/about-dave-armstrong-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">About Catholic Apologist Dave Armstrong \/ Donation Information<\/a>.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks a million<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0from the bottom of my heart!<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit:<\/strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u00a0from the Brill page,<\/span>\u00a0\u201c<a class=\"c-Button--link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/brill.com\/view\/title\/35023\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Francis Turretin (1623\u201387) and the Reformed Tradition\u201d: chapter 6, publication history.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: The 17th century Reformed \/ Calvinist theologian Fran\u00e7ois Turretin engaged in wholesale lying &amp; distortion with regard to the dogmatic Catholic view of Holy Scripture.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fran\u00e7ois Turretin (1623-1687) was a Genevan-Italian\u00a0Reformed scholastic theologian, earnest defender of the\u00a0Calvinistic\u00a0orthodoxy\u00a0represented by the\u00a0Synod of Dort, and one of the authors of the\u00a0Helvetic Consensus (1675). His\u00a0Institutes of Elenctic Theology\u00a0(three parts, Geneva, 1679\u20131685) used the\u00a0scholastic method. It was a popular textbook; notably at Princeton Theological Seminary, until it was replaced by Charles Hodge\u2018s\u00a0Systematic Theology in the 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Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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