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Zeke the \u201cJesus Freak\u201d<\/strong>: Hey Cathy, why do Catholics baptize babies? It\u2019s pointless since they don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on and can\u2019t repent, according to Acts 2:38 and Mark 6:16.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy the Catholic<\/strong>: But where in the Bible does it specifically prohibit<\/i> the baptism of babies?<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: Well . . . I guess it never says that. But . . .<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: But don\u2019t you only follow what\u2019s plainly taught in the pages of Scripture?<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: It\u2019s a conclusion that follows from ideas that are clearly in Scripture. It\u2019s still a biblical doctrine.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: Ah! That\u2019s a big difference. Now we\u2019re both in the same boat, since the Bible doesn\u2019t explicitly<\/i> teach about baptism of infants. We must make inferences. Catholics maintain that there are many strong indications<\/i> of our view.<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: Where? I\u2019ve never seen any in 17 years of being saved.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: In Acts 16:15,33, 18:8 (cf. 11:14), and 1 Corinthians 1:16 it is stated that an individual and his \u201cwhole household\u201d were baptized. It would be hard to say this involved no small children. Paul in Colossians 2:11-13 makes a connection between baptism and circumcision. Israel was the church before Christ (Acts 7:38, Romans 9:4). Circumcision, given to 8-day old boys, was the seal of the covenant God made with Abraham, which applies to us also (Galatians 3:14,29). It was a sign of repentance and future faith (Romans 4:11). Infants were just as much a part of the covenant as adults (Genesis 17:7, Deuteronomy 29:10-12, cf. Matthew 19:14). Likewise, baptism is the seal of the New Covenant in Christ. It signifies cleansing from sin, just as circumcision did (Deuteronomy 10:16, 30:6, Jeremiah 4:4, 9:25, Romans 2:28-9, Philippians 3:3). Infants are wholly saved by God\u2019s grace just as adults are, only apart from their rational and willful consent. Their parents act in their behalf.<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: That\u2019s not possible. You have to repent and be born again in order to receive salvation, as John 3:5 says.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: It doesn\u2019t exactly say that. It says that one must be \u201cborn of water and the Spirit.\u201d Catholics, along with the Church Fathers such as St. Augustine and many Protestants (for example, Lutherans and Anglicans), interpret this as a reference to baptism, and a proof of the necessity of infant baptism.<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: That doesn\u2019t make sense. Water here refers to the amniotic sac when a baby is born. Babies can\u2019t be born again. Jesus is contrasting natural with spiritual birth.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: Are you saying then that a baby can\u2019t be saved, and will go to hell if it dies before the \u201cage of reason\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: No, no, I would never say that. God is too merciful to let that happen to an innocent little baby.<\/span>
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\nCathy<\/strong>: But you believe in original sin (1 Corinthians 15:22), inherited by all people from the Fall of Adam and Eve, right?<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: Well, yeah. What are you getting at?<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: Once you say that a baby can be saved, then clearly there is a justification for baptizing infants, since there are factors other than their own consent which enter into the question of their salvation. Thus, you have arrived at a more communal, covenantal view of salvation (see, for example, 1 Corinthians 7:14, 12:13), rather than the individualistic notion that many evangelicals have. The reality of original sin makes baptism desirable as soon as possible, since it removes the punishment and guilt due to sin and infuses sanctifying grace. This is why most Protestants through history, including Lutherans, Anglicans, Methodists, Reformed, and Presbyterians, have baptized infants.<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: Now wait a minute. Surely you don\u2019t believe that baptism actually does anything, do you? It\u2019s only a symbol.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: You evangelicals always seem to deny that matter can be a conveyor of grace, and too often frown on the idea of sacraments, which are physical, visible means whereby grace is conferred.<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: We don\u2019t believe in those things because they\u2019re unbiblical. The Bible talks about the Spirit giving grace (John 6:63, Romans 8:1-10), not matter. Catholics are always getting weird about things such as statues, relics, rosary beads, the wafer of communion, and holy water. This usually degenerates into idolatry.<\/span><\/p>\nCathy<\/strong>: I disagree. God Himself took on flesh in Christ. Paul\u2019s handkerchiefs healed the sick (Acts 19:12), as did even Peter\u2019s shadow (Acts 5:15)! Likewise, baptism is said to regenerate sinners. Acts 2:38 speaks of being baptized \u201cfor the forgiveness of your sins.\u201d 1 Peter 3:21 says \u201cbaptism . . . now saves you\u201d (cf. Mark 16:16, Romans 6:3-4). Paul recalls how Ananias told him to be \u201cbaptized, and wash away your sins\u201d (Acts 22:16). In 1 Corinthians 6:11 Paul sure seems to imply an organic connection between baptism (washed), sanctification and justification, whereas evangelicals separate all three. Titus 3:5 says that \u201che saved us, . . . by the washing of regeneration.\u201d What more biblical proof is needed? Is this all to be explained as \u201csymbolic\u201d?<\/span><\/p>\nZeke<\/strong>: I gotta run. I have some questions for my pastor . . .<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"[CC0 public domain \/ Pixabay] *** (1995) *** Zeke the \u201cJesus Freak\u201d: Hey Cathy, why do Catholics baptize babies? It\u2019s pointless since they don\u2019t know what\u2019s going on and can\u2019t repent, according to Acts 2:38 and Mark 6:16. Cathy the Catholic: But where in the Bible does it specifically prohibit the baptism of babies? Zeke: […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":6737,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[314],"tags":[318,315,1461,317,320,319,316,321],"class_list":["post-6726","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-baptism-and-sacramentalism","tag-adult-baptism","tag-baptism","tag-baptismal-regeneration","tag-baptist-theology","tag-baptists","tag-believers-baptism","tag-infant-baptism","tag-sacraments"],"yoast_head":"\n
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