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How can a \u201cfaithful Catholic\u201d (or a faithful orthodox Protestant who accepts the historic Protestant doctrines and moral teachings) vote for a politician who sanctions the practice of sticking scissors in the neck of a full-term baby and sucking its brains out (let alone abortion in general)? That\u2019s not even including things like homosexual \u201cmarriage,\u201d radical feminism, fetal experimentation, assisted suicide, and suchlike.<\/span><\/p>\nThey can try to separate their vote from the responsibility of the promulgation of abortion, but I just don\u2019t buy it. Our choices have consequences. Legal abortion arrived in the first place in large part because the Catholic Church was weak. The dissidents were already attacking the ban on contraception, heroically reaffirmed by Pope Paul VI in Humanae Vitae<\/i> in 1968. Contraception was legally crucial as the groundwork for Roe (the Griswold case). It paved the way, very directly. So the time was ripe.<\/span><\/p>\nCatholics vote for pro-abortion politicians and this allows abortion to continue. This is contrary to Church teaching. Such voters participate in a causal sense in promoting abortion if they vote in men and women who believe that it should be legal. It is an outrage. It seems to me the only way they can possibly defend this is to separate their vote for a Democrat from the causal factor of how this might perpetuate the status quo of Roe v. Wade. And I think that will be an uphill battle (to put it mildly).<\/span><\/p>\nOne must flat-out deny what the Catholic Church teaches in order to make the assertion that one can be a \u201cgood Catholic\u201d and also a card-carrying Democrat today, given the morally-troublesome Democratic platform and advocacy of various immoral issues. This is why I maintain that it is impossible to synthesize the two at present (it wasn\u2019t always so \u2013 before legal abortion).<\/span><\/p>\nI agree that the Democrats have traditionally had a more fruitful social conscience. They were in the forefront of the fight for racial equality and justice (though more Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act in 1964; Al Gore\u2019s father, e.g., voted against it, along with many Southern segregationalist Democrats). They brought us social security, Medicare, and praiseworthy programs for first-time home buyers, etc. which are social goods. But that was then<\/i>; now<\/b> they are a force for child-killing, homosexual rights (i.e., preferential treatment), radical feminism, assisted suicide, etc.<\/span><\/p>\nThis is the sad state of affairs that we live in today. Now we have serious debates about whether the brutal, savage slaughter of a full-term baby about to be born should moral and legally permissible. It\u2019s almost beyond belief. I can\u2019t even comprehend this level of moral lunacy and outrageous injustice anymore. Yet we went into a lengthy national mourning after 9-11, which (horrible as it was) caused less deaths than a day\u2019s work in an abortion clinic. And at least those people had some sort of life before they were killed, and some chance to escape (however slight, in many cases). The baby about to be ripped to shreds has neither.<\/span><\/p>\nIn presidential elections, it has been clear for years now that the Democrat has to favor legal abortion to run at all. So no Catholic or pro-life non-Catholic Christian can vote for such a person. It can\u2019t be justified, just as we now condemn anyone who voted for Hitler (who only killed 6 million, compared to the 50 million legal abortions in the US in 30 years). I think this is morally and ethically obvious.<\/span><\/p>\nI think it all comes down to the willingness (conscious or otherwise) to separate public and private morality; personal and civic virtue. That\u2019s what brought us abortion, the sexual revolution, and also the schizophrenic nonsense of being so-called \u201cpro-choice\u201d (i.e., \u201cpersonally opposed<\/i>\u201d to abortion, but willing to allow it to continue legally).<\/span><\/p>\nThis derives historically, I would argue, from elements of the Renaissance, the so-called Enlightenment, English Deism and rationalism, and onto more modern forms of secularist philosophy and thought (liberalism, Marxism, libertarianism, legal positivism, humanism, pragmatism, et al). They all separated things such as faith and reason, private and public morality, Christ and culture, church and state, etc. And these strains of thought have deeply penetrated into the American psyche, if not all of the western world.<\/span><\/p>\nThat bizarre inconsistency is the foundation for millions of professed Christians (Catholic, Orthodox, and Protestant alike) voting for people whose principles are diametrically opposed to Christianity; in fact they are often outright espousals of rank paganism and blatantly utilitarian, even at times nihilistic, ethics. Ignorance of one\u2019s own supposed religious beliefs doesn\u2019t help, either, of course.<\/span><\/p>\nI have lambasted Republicans also on my website. But I continue to say that a Catholic in good standing cannot possibly defend a vote for a pro-abort. I have voted for pro-life Democrats in local races, and will not vote for any pro-abort Republican. Abortion is the morally-defining issue of this generation. It is immediately morally schizophrenic to vote for a guy like Kerry, whereas one can vote for Bush without violating any Catholic precept.<\/span><\/p>\nIt is largely a failure of consistent thinking, and of molding one\u2019s outlook in harmony with the \u201cmind of the Church.\u201d One\u2019s view of culture and politics (indeed, all of life) must be synthesized with their religious worldview. That\u2019s what it means to be a disciple of Christ: everything (that includes politics and government) comes under His Lordship. But if someone is informed of, say, partial-birth abortion and continues to vote for the guy who upholds it, what do we conclude then? Is there not some sin in that?<\/span><\/p>\nA position which is the moral equivalent of Nazism is neither respectable, nor arguable in \u201cpolite circles.\u201d Many pro-lifers act as though a person can be both \u201crespectable\u201d and \u201chonorable\u201d and a pro-abort.<\/span><\/p>\nWe don\u2019t regard the Nazis in that fashion; we loathe them because they were for wanton massacre. Yet many conservatives (e.g., Rush Limbaugh) express such admiration for, say, Colin Powell, as a \u201cgreat man,\u201d even though he is a pro-abort. More schizophrenia. We must qualify his \u201cgreatness\u201d; we can say he was a great general. But a \u201cgreat man\u201d? Not if we are pro-lifers . . . .<\/span><\/p>\nI am not seeking to judge any person\u2019s heart or soul. I am addressing hypocrisy and moral schizophrenia, just as Jesus did, particularly with the Pharisees. I haven\u2019t yet found a Catholic Democrat who put up any sort of reasoned defense for why they vote the way they do (particularly regarding abortion). I either get nothing, theological liberalism, or a pack of propaganda-induced lies about both the nature and motivation of Republicans and Conservatives. It gets very frustrating.<\/span><\/p>\nWhen people vote for politicians who favor abortion, they are a party to that outrageous crime. They don\u2019t get off by taking the libertarian route and simply saying that they personally oppose abortion. 4000 babies die every day. Al Gore and Richard Gephardt were pro-life at one time; so was Bill Clinton and Jesse Jackson. They all caved because any Democrat running for President, or hoping to, has to be in favor of child-killing. This is the party that Christians want to support (God help us)? It can\u2019t be justified from a Catholic or a conservative Protestant standpoint. Christianity is about love and compassion and putting the little guy first: not about butchering defenseless babies. A Catholic cannot vote for a politician who supports abortion. He just can\u2019t do it. he have to choose between his Church and his political party, I\u2019m afraid, on this issue.<\/span><\/p>\nAnd that is, of course, exactly what many Catholics do: they are much more \u201cAmerican\u201d and \u201cDemocrat\u201d and \u201cliberal\u201d than they are Catholic. And so they will ditch those teachings of the Church that they don\u2019t care for, such as the ban on contraception, the immorality of fornication, and of abortion. It always seems to be the sexual <\/i>issues, for some strange reason.<\/span><\/p>\nJesus tells us to protect the innocent. And that is why a Catholic or any sort of Christian who believes in the inspiration of the Bible cannot vote for people who sanction the slaughter of children. I\u2019ve always opposed racism and prejudice and the oppression and exploitation of the poor, as a political conservative (generally-speaking); so-called \u201cliberals\u201d and mainstream Democrats should oppose child-killing as political liberals, since liberalism historically was in favor of the little guy and the oppressed and exploited. This is the inconsistency in the Democratic Catholic position (insofar as the person votes for a pro-abortion candidate).<\/span><\/p>\nThe Democrats are no longer the party of JFK or FDR, because advocating abortion is not helping the \u201clittle guy\u201d and the oppressed. It\u2019s one thing to advocate social reform along more traditionally liberal or left-leaning lines (New Deal, Great Society, unions, civil rights, equality for women and minorities, health care provisions, social security and Medicare, etc. \u2014 much of which is very good and consistent with Catholic social teaching); quite another to adopt wholesale radical moral teachings that contradict Christianity, as formerly understood by both<\/i> liberals and conservatives.<\/span><\/p>\nMalcolm X was a greater revolutionary than Dr. Martin Luther King, because he stressed personal behavior and ethics as well as social reform, which the latter almost solely concentrated on. I think Rev. King (much as I immensely admire the man) should have publicly taught much more biblical personal morality, but that was a function, I think, of the separation of \u201csocial gospel\u201d from personal righteousness, which unfortunately occurred in Christianity (both Catholic and Protestant).<\/span><\/p>\nThe theological liberals (who tended to be politically liberal) emphasized the social and institutional, while conservatives (who tended to be politically conservative as well) emphasized individual traditional Christian morals and the family. The Catholic Church brings both impulses together and refuses to separate them. That\u2019s why I consider it a \u201cthird way\u201d \u2014 distinct from both political parties, which have become polarized in such an unnecessary manner, and mostly secularized, too.<\/span><\/p>\n* * * * *<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Bernie Sanders and\u00a0Hillary Clinton at the first 2016 Democratic presidential debate in Las Vegas, 10-13-15 [You Tube video\u00a0still shot \/ reuse permitted based on Creative Commons license] *** (originally posted\u00a0on 4-4-04) *** The following is derived from letters and dialogues I had with Catholic Democrats. *** How can a \u201cfaithful Catholic\u201d (or a faithful orthodox […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":6791,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[81,289],"tags":[84,88,2074,2073,756,1257,2076,2075,1254,755,1255,1251,747,746,752],"class_list":["post-6789","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-life-issues","category-political-ethical-moral-issues","tag-abortion","tag-childkilling","tag-democrats-abortion","tag-human-rights","tag-infanticide","tag-informed-consent","tag-murder","tag-partial-birth-abortion","tag-personhood","tag-planned-parenthood","tag-preborn-child","tag-pro-aborts","tag-pro-choice","tag-pro-life","tag-right-to-life"],"yoast_head":"\n
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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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