{"id":7007,"date":"2016-04-16T20:46:05","date_gmt":"2016-04-17T00:46:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=7007"},"modified":"2017-02-27T15:05:16","modified_gmt":"2017-02-27T19:05:16","slug":"biblical-evidence-for-veneration-of-saints","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/04\/biblical-evidence-for-veneration-of-saints.html","title":{"rendered":"Biblical Evidence for Veneration of Saints"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7008 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/04\/SaintsVeneration.jpg\" alt=\"SaintsVeneration\" width=\"564\" height=\"768\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Sts. Mary, St. Augustine, St. Anne, St. Elizabeth, and St. Peter Damian<\/em> (1481), by Ecole de\u2019 Roberti (c. 1451-1496)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Ercole_de%27_Roberti_007.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">From my book: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2013\/10\/books-by-dave-armstrong-revelation-1001.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Revelation!: 1001 Bible Answers to Theological Questions<\/a><\/em>. Passages in KJV unless otherwise indicated.<\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><b>119. Veneration of Saints and Imitation of Holy Persons<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-1. <i>Does St. Paul teach us to imitate him?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Philippians 4:8-9<\/b> Finally, brethren, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is gracious, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. [9] What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, do; and the God of peace will be with you.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-2. <i>Does\u2019t this detract from worship of God, by competing with it?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Corinthians 11:1 <\/b>(RSV) Be imitators [KJV, <i>followers<\/i>] of me, as I am of Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-3. So<i> St. Paul sees no contradiction between imitating Him and imitating Jesus?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Thessalonians 1:6-7<\/b> (RSV) And you became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you received the word in much affliction, with joy inspired by the Holy Spirit; [<b>7<\/b>] so that you became an example to all the believers in Macedo\u2019nia and in Acha\u2019ia.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-4. <i>Are we taught to venerate and imitate saints of the past?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>Hebrews 6:12<\/b> That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-5. <i>Is there any example of honoring or venerating a person after his or her death?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>2 Chronicles 32:33<\/b> And Hezekiah slept with his fathers, and they buried him in the chiefest of the sepulchres of the sons of David: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem did him honour at his death. And Manasseh his son reigned in his stead.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">119-6. <i>Do we ever observe the permissible veneration of a living person?<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"justify\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><b>1 Chronicles 29:20<\/b> Then David said to all the assembly, \u201cBless the LORD your God.\u201d And all the assembly blessed the LORD, the God of their fathers, and bowed their heads, and worshiped [<em>shachah<\/em>] the LORD, and did obeisance [<em>shachah<\/em>] to the king. 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