{"id":7202,"date":"2016-04-28T13:47:23","date_gmt":"2016-04-28T17:47:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=7202"},"modified":"2017-02-27T13:31:23","modified_gmt":"2017-02-27T17:31:23","slug":"grape-juice-in-holy-communion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/04\/grape-juice-in-holy-communion.html","title":{"rendered":"Grape Juice in Holy Communion?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7204 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/04\/CommunionBaptist.jpg\" alt=\"CommunionBaptist\" width=\"360\" height=\"283\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Baptist communion elements; photograph by \u201cAlanscottwalker\u201d (4-23-11)<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Communion_Baptist.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a> \/<\/span>\u00a0 <a class=\"extiw decorated-link\" title=\"w:en:Creative Commons\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/en:Creative_Commons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Creative Commons<\/a> <a class=\"external text decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\/deed.en\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">license]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">From my book,<\/span> <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/02\/books-by-dave-armstrong-biblical.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Biblical Catholic Eucharistic Theology<\/a><\/em>\u00a0<span style=\"color: #000000;\">(2011).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The historical reason for use of grape juice is the anti-drinking temperance movement of the mid-19th and early 20th centuries. Once it changed, then there was probably an urge to justify it on theological or spiritual grounds, since caving into cultural movements without always stellar biblical backing is not exactly the best rationale in changing a time-honored Christian rite \u2014 which had already been ravaged by widespread Protestant disbelief in the Real Presence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Behind the temperance movement was not only a commendable opposition to drunkenness, but also often a belief that all alcohol consumption whatever is sinful: a notion that is clearly unbiblical and untrue. But this was largely an American phenomenon.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">All of the major Protestant confessions of the 16th and 17th centuries: Belgic Confession (1561); The Heidelberg Catechism (1563); 2nd Helvetic Confession (1566); Westminster Confession of Faith (1647); London Baptist Confession of 1689) prescribed the use of wine in Holy Communion. Many prominent Protestant theologians, even through the 19th century, agreed. For example:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><b>Charles Hodge <\/b><\/span>(1797-1878):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">By wine as prescribed to be used in this ordinance, is to be understood \u2018the juice of the grape;\u2019 and \u2018the juice of the grape\u2019 in that state which was, and is, in common use, and in the state in which it was known as wine. The wine of the Bible was a manufactured article. It was not the juice of the grape as it exists in the fruit, but that juice submitted to such a process of fermentation as secured its preservation and gave it the qualities ascribed to it in Scripture. That <span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>oinos <\/i><\/span>in the Bible when unqualified by such terms as <span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>new<\/i><\/span>, or <span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>sweet<\/i><\/span>, means the fermented juice of the grape, is hardly an open question. It has never been questioned in the Church, if we except a few Christians of the present day.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Systematic Theology<\/em>, Vol. III, 616)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><b>Archibald Alexander Hodge <\/b><\/span>(1823-1886):<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">What is the meaning of the term <span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>oinos<\/i><\/span>, wine, in the New Testament, and how does it appear that wine and no other liquid must be used in the Lord\u2019s Supper?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">It is evident from the usage of this word in the New Testament that it was designed by the sacred writers to designate the fermented juice of the grape \u2013 Matt. 9:17; John 2:3-10; Rom. 14:21; Eph. 5:18; 1 Tim. 3:8; 5:23; Titus 2:3. This is established by the unanimous testimony of all competent scholars and missionary residents in the East\u2026 That wine and no other liquid is to be used is clear from the record of the institution, Matt. 26:26-29, and from the usage of the apostles.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>Outlines of Theology<\/i><\/span>, New York: Robert Carter &amp; Brothers, 1863, 633-634)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The contents of the cup were wine. This is known to have been \u201cthe juice of the grape,\u201d not in its original state as freshly expressed, but as prepared in the form of wine for permanent use among the Jews. \u201cWine,\u201d according to the absolutely unanimous, unexceptional testimony of every scholar and missionary, is in its essence \u201cfermented grape juice.\u201d Nothing else is wine. The use of \u201cwine\u201d is precisely what is commanded by Christ in his example and his authoritative institution of this holy ordinance. Whoever puts away true and real wine, or fermented grape juice, on moral grounds, from the Lord\u2019s Supper sets himself up as more moral than the Son of God who reigns over his conscience, and than the Saviour of souls who redeemed him. There has been absolutely universal consent on this subject in the Christian Church until modern times, when the practice has been opposed, not upon change of evidence, but solely on prudential considerations.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<span style=\"font-family: Times, serif;\"><i>Evangelical Theology<\/i><\/span>, reprinted by Edinburgh: Banner of Truth Trust, 1976, 347-348)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">John Calvin, Theodore Beza, Francois Turretin, Jonathan Edwards, John Gill, Robert Dabney, W. G. T. Shedd, Benjamin Warfield, J. Gresham Machen, Louis Berkhof, Herman Hoeksema, and G. C. Berkouwer all taught this.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">*****<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meta Description:\u00a0Critique of the Protestant use of grape juice rather than wine, for Holy Communion, or the Lord\u2019s supper.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"left\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Meta Keywords:\u00a0Holy communion, Protestants &amp; Catholic communion, Eucharist, liturgy, bread &amp; wine, grape juice for communion, temperance movement, alcohol, Bible &amp; alcohol, Protestant sacraments, Lord\u2019s Supper<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Baptist communion elements; photograph by \u201cAlanscottwalker\u201d (4-23-11) [Wikimedia Commons \/\u00a0 Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license] ***** From my book, Biblical Catholic Eucharistic Theology\u00a0(2011).\u00a0 ***** The historical reason for use of grape juice is the anti-drinking temperance movement of the mid-19th and early 20th centuries. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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