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Still digesting this but I see some issues with your argument. You cannot use the authority of scripture to diminish the authority of scripture. <\/span><\/p>\nOf course not, because it is what it is: God\u2019s inspired, infallible revelation.<\/span><\/p>\nI\u2019m sure you\u2019d argue that you cannot use scripture to affirm it\u2019s own authority, either. <\/span><\/p>\nYou can, but technically, it\u2019s a circular argument. But I think one can use parts of Scripture to verify it\u2019s authenticity and inspired status; for example, fulfilled prophecy. For it to be inspired it has to at least claim this. Then if we assume for the sake of argument that it is inspired and infallible, it should be internally consistent and harmonious. And indeed it is that. It still requires faith to believe it is revelation, but God gives us many clues and evidences.<\/span><\/p>\nBoth lead to logical issues and only appeal to faith. <\/span><\/p>\nWell, it\u2019s a mixture: faith and reason. The appeal to Church history or tradition also requires faith, but it is a reasonable faith, able to be substantiated historiographically.<\/span><\/p>\nEither the Bible is the Word of God, in which case it has all authority, or it contains the Word of God (if that is your belief) or some of God\u2019s Word, in which case it has full authority in all matters which it does address. I don\u2019t think it profitable for one embracing the latter two to try and persuade one embracing the first.<\/span><\/p>\nIt has authority, but it is not the sole<\/em> authority because it also delegates authority to tradition, apostolic succession, the Church, bishops, popes, and apostles. These are aspects of complementary authority, not contradictory. Both \/ and. \u201cThree-legged stool\u201d . . .<\/span><\/p>\nI think you need to look at the entire passage and read Peter\u2019s argument (which comes on the heels of his dream in Acts 10):<\/span><\/p>\n\u201cThe apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, \u201cBrothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\nI have. :-)<\/span><\/p>\nPeter finally has his last word against the Judaizers, Paul and Barnabas testify, as well. But there is still an uneasiness and James works a compromise, limited concession to kosher laws. A compromise is not doctrine and not infallible. <\/span><\/p>\nIt was not a dogma for all time, but it was binding at the time, as\u00a0suggested by \u201d it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us\u201d (Acts 15:28). Because this was binding authority, St. Paul went around and \u201cdelivered to them for observance the decisions which had been reached by the apostles and elders who were at Jerusalem\u201d (Acts 16:4).<\/span><\/p>\nRecall that in 1 Corinthians 8, Paul allows that Christians may eat food sacrificed to idols as long as one is mindful of how it may affect those of weaker or immature faith. We certainly wouldn\u2019t expect Irish Catholics to give up blood pudding, would we? Sexual immorality? Well, of course, but that was not because this council decreed it to be sinful.<\/span><\/p>\nThe council confesses that the Holy Spirit is shared and that God has imparted faith to the Gentiles without them being Judaized. They have caused no doctrine to come into being. Rather, they stand as mediators, willing to conceal part of the truth concerning Christain liberty for the sake of peace and agree that respecting the weaker, the Judaizers, was critical for the sake of the Church, for unity. In a sense, allowing the false sensibilities of Judaizers to be appeased and burdening the Gentiles with false rules concerning food, the council was refusing to assume a ruling role. For, if the Gentiles disobeyed the council concerning foods, we know they would not have been in error because a church council cannot bind one to something false even if it has the authority to bind one to something true. Truth is the source of binding authority and of all confession.<\/span><\/p>\nThe Jerusalem council had authority, but not all its decrees were meant for all times and places. Catholic apologist and theologian Scott Hahn wrote in his commentary on 1 Corinthians 8 in the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible<\/em>:<\/span><\/p>\nThe Council of Florence declared in 1442 that the Apostolic decree of Acts 15:22-29 was only a temporary restriction placed upon the Gentiles to encourage fellowship between Jewish and Gentile converts in the early Church. This restriction was lifted once these ethnic circumstances had changed. . . .<\/span><\/p>\nThese clarifications help to demonstrate that Paul and the Jerusalem Council were not in conflict at the theological level.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\nSo it seems to me that there are two questions here: Did the council have (binding) authority? Yes. Was it dealing with unchangeable dogma in this instance? No. It\u2019s still not sola Scriptura<\/em>, because in that system no council can be infallible and binding. Only Scripture is that. Luther\u2019s movement would never have gotten off the ground at all if he hadn\u2019t denied Catholic authority, by asserting that \u201ccouncils can and do err\u201d and by adopting the alternate, anti-traditional Scripture Alone viewpoint.<\/span><\/p>\nAll that aside, you are debating a Baptist, one who is not \u201csola scriptura\u201d in any proper sense. They have no confession, reject the creeds, reject the real presence, reject the sacramental nature of baptism. <\/span><\/p>\nWell, he\u2019s Reformed<\/em> Baptist, so I think he would accept Calvinist creeds and confessions.<\/span><\/p>\nIn other words, they reject the authority of scripture in these matters. If they were sola scriptura<\/em>, they would not seek to find the church by personal revelation in scripture, by personal interpretation, mystical experience, or any other revelation of God outside Word and Sacrament, the public revelation given to all and received in the Church.<\/span><\/p>\nAs a Lutheran, I have always been astounded at both Catholic and Protestant misinterpretations of sola scriptura<\/em>. It simply means that any revelation or teaching must agree with scripture if it is to be embraced as true and essential. Any teaching not in contradiction with scripture must point one to Christ in Word and Sacrament, but cannot be taught as essential.<\/span><\/p>\nThat\u2019s not my understanding of what sola Scriptura<\/em> means. Rather, it is that \u201conly Scripture is the final, infallible authority.\u201d What you say is easily compatible with Catholicism and Orthodoxy, for we, too, believe that all our teachings do and must agree with Holy Scripture, and are completely harmonious with it. That\u2019s different from saying (an extreme sola Scriptura<\/em> or \u201csolo Scriptura\u201d<\/em> doctrine) that all proofs whatever for doctrine must explicitly be in Scripture (the canon of Scripture, for example, is not). But most Catholics (including myself) believe in the material sufficiency of Scripture. There is at least indirect, implicit, or deductive data about any and every Catholic, Christian doctrine in Holy Scripture. That is certainly what I\u2019ve found in my apologetics research, and its emphasis on \u201cBiblical evidence for Catholicism.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\nYour point:<\/span><\/p>\n\u201c6. Scripture itself does not rule out the presence of an authoritative oral tradition, not recorded in words. Paul refers more than once to a non-written tradition (e.g., 2 Tim 1:13-14, 2:2).\u201d<\/span><\/p>\nIs easily addressed by the fact that the oral tradition was, eventually, passed down to us as scripture. There were no gospels and the epistles were in the works, not disseminated, when the Church was in infancy. However, Peter, Paul and all the apostles referenced constantly the scriptures they did have, the Old Testament, in relating the Gospel of Christ. This we know from the writings we do have. You dismiss that, too easily when you would insist that the Bible list its own books. That is flippant.<\/span><\/p>\nI don\u2019t \u201cinsist\u201d that the Bible list its own books; I simply state the fact that it did not<\/em>. Protestants are thus left with a fallible list of infallible books, and sola Scriptura<\/em> itself is cast into doubt, since we have no certainly (other than the authoritative Church) as to what books are<\/em> the Bible. The binding, infallible Church authority that decreed the canon is directly contradictory to sola Scriptura<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\nThe Bible is the Church\u2019s book. To the Church belongs the ministry of Word and Sacrament. The Church is not \u201cme and God\u201d or a \u201cpersonal Savior\u201d in the sense that a Baptist may claim and the Word is not a private thing. <\/span><\/p>\nWe are in total agreement on that.<\/span><\/p>\nSo, to say that the canon of scripture comes together in as inspired a manner as the scriptures were written is not a stretch. Yet, the Church has always had differences, from the time of the Apostolic Fathers in terms of anitlegomena and apocrypha with difference among East, West, and Ethiopian which persist. In the end, we rely on faith that the canon is what it needs to be, can focus on what all churches agree to (as if there is counsel, there) and that God preserves the faith across translations.<\/span><\/p>\nSola scriptura<\/em> does not supplant the authority of the Church, it roots the Church\u2019s authority in the Word. The Church remains the keeper, teacher, and interpreter and it is not an affront to the Church\u2019s authority for anyone to ask \u201cwhere is that written?\u201d The Church should ever be ready to give a defense.<\/span><\/p>\nBut the Church<\/em> is not infallible<\/em> in the sola Scriptura<\/em> rule of faith. Apostolic tradition<\/em> is not infallible (hence Lutheranism departed from it in many respects). Ecumenical councils<\/em> are not infallible and binding.<\/span><\/p>\nThe good news is that (despite these disagreements), Lutheranism and Catholicism are far closer in viewpoint on the matter of authority than Baptists or other \u201clow church\u201d denominations are to Catholicism, because Lutherans grant far more authority and \u201cplace\u201d to councils and creeds and confessions (Book of Concord), albeit in a sub-infallible sense.<\/span><\/p>\n*****<\/span><\/p>\nMeta Description:\u00a0Nice dialogue with a Lutheran about the authority of the Jerusalem council, & the relation of Scripture to Christian authority.<\/span><\/p>\nMeta Keywords:\u00a0Bible Only, biblical prooftexts, biblical theology, Christian Authority, exegesis, councils, ecumenical councils, hermeneutics, Holy Bible, infallible authority, Rule of Faith, Sacred Scripture, Scripture Alone, Sola Scriptura, Lutheranism, Lutheran rule of faith, Lutheran authority, Book of Concord<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Luther at the Diet of Worms (1877), by Anton von Werner (1843-1915) [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons]\u00a0 *** The words of CKRuch (LCMS) will be in blue. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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