{"id":74228,"date":"2023-06-18T15:52:20","date_gmt":"2023-06-18T19:52:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=74228"},"modified":"2023-06-18T15:52:20","modified_gmt":"2023-06-18T19:52:20","slug":"does-the-pentateuch-claim-to-be-inspired-revelation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2023\/06\/does-the-pentateuch-claim-to-be-inspired-revelation.html","title":{"rendered":"Does the Pentateuch Claim to be Inspired Revelation?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>+ Do the Several Third-Person References to Moses in the Pentateuch Prove That He Didn\u2019t Write It?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2022\/12\/Moses3-239x300.jpg\"><\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">[originally posted on Facebook on 13-14 December 2022]<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">My\u00a0 atheist friend \u201cLex Lata\u201d wrote on 11-30-22:<br>\n*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">A few passages in the Torah depict Moses writing specific things down, but the \u2018Pentateuch never claims divine or Mosaic authorship.\u2019 [he makes a link there, but he agrees with it] The books of the Torah are broadly anonymous on their face. The tradition of Mosaic authorship appears to be an extrinsic phenomenon that likely developed in ancient Hebrew culture during the middle or last half of the first millennium BCE.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Let me take the first of two separate claims first: does the Pentateuch \u201cnever\u201d claim divine authorship (i.e., never assert that it is inspired revelation)? This is massively false, and it\u2019s another notorious instance of the dumbest thing anyone can ever do in an argument (don\u2019t <em>do<\/em> it!): assert a \u201cuniversal negative.\u201d<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">In Exodus (in RSV), the phrase \u201cThe LORD said\u201d appears 62 times. 54 of those times, it\u2019s followed by \u201cto Moses.\u201d In Leviticus it\u2019s even more clear: \u201cThe LORD said\u201d appears 34 times, and every time it\u2019s followed by \u201cto Moses.\u201d In Numbers, the same two figures are 72 and 64. In Deuteronomy, \u201cThe LORD said\u201d appears 18 times, and \u201cThe LORD said to Moses\u201d three times. But, \u201cThe LORD said to me\u201d appears 14 times. And guess who is the \u201cme\u201d every time? You got it: Moses. That leaves one more instance of \u201cthe LORD\u201d talking to someone in Deuteronomy: \u201cAnd the LORD said to him, . . . \u201d (34:4). In context (34:1, 5-8), this, too, is directed to Moses.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">From the textual facts we learn that these books claim to be inspired. Revelation is God\u2019s communication to mankind. So \u201cthe LORD said\u201d is a clear indication of this inspired revelation. The phrase occurs 186 times in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy combined. 170 of those instances (or 91%) are directed towards Moses. Therefore, it doesn\u2019t take a rocket scientist to conclude that these books:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">1) claim to be inspired, and<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">2) claim to be communicated from God to us primarily by one man, who is relentlessly identified as its author and\/or messenger: Moses.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">So where does Lex get off claiming that \u201cthe Pentateuch never claims divine authorship\u201d? What kind of convoluted, discombobulated \u201creasoning\u201d is this? Whether one believes in the text or not, it clearly asserts certain things; and these books claim to be (at least 186 times) revelation from God, passed through Moses.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\u201cLex Lata\u201d also wrote:<br>\n*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Why does the modern consensus reject the traditional assumption that Moses himself wrote the Torah? The reasons are legion, and would\u2014indeed, do\u2014fill copious books and articles far longer than this article, . . . But perhaps a few key factors warrant mentioning. . . The books of the Torah contain several statements that make little sense coming from Moses. . . . It\u2019s impossible to overlook the brute grammatical reality that the Torah refers consistently to Moses in the third person, not the first.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">So <em>what<\/em>? Julius Caesar did the same in <em>The Gallic Wars<\/em>. So did Thucydides in his <em>History of the Peloponnesian War<\/em>, where he wrote: \u201cThucydides, an Athenian, wrote the history of the war . . .\u201d, and in 4.104.4: \u201cThe opponents of the betrayers . . . sent to the other commander of the areas in Thrace, Thucydides, son of Olorus . . .\u201d Roman Jewish historian Josephus wrote in his work, <em>The Jewish War<\/em>: \u201cJohn, son of Ananias, was appointed commander of Gophna and Acrabetta, and Josephus, son of Matthias, of each of the two Galilees\u201d (2.568).<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">It\u2019s also very common in the Bible. In the book of Jeremiah, both first person and third are used (I cite RSV):<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<br>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">First Person<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah 1:11<\/strong> And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, \u201cJeremiah, what do you see?\u201d . . . (cf. 1:12-14)<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>2:1<\/strong> The word of the LORD came to me, saying, (cf. 13:3, 8; 16:1; 18:5; 24:4)<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>24:3<\/strong> And the LORD said to me, \u201cWhat do you see, Jeremiah?\u201d . . .<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<br>\n<strong><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Third Person<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<br>\n<strong>Jeremiah 7:1<\/strong> The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD: (cf. 11:1; 18:1; 21:1; 25:1-2; 27:1; 28:12; 30:1; 33:1)<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>14:1<\/strong> The word of the LORD which came to Jeremiah concerning the drought:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">J<strong>eremiah<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>19:14<\/strong> Then Jeremiah came from Topheth, where the LORD had sent him to prophesy, and he stood in the court of the LORD\u2019s house, and said to all the people: (cf. 20:1-3)<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah<\/strong>\u00a0<strong>26:7<\/strong> The priests and the prophets and all the people heard Jeremiah speaking these words in the house of the LORD.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">And so on and so forth . . . Both forms occur in Ezekiel in the space of four verses (1st person, then 3rd person, then back to 1st):<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Ezekiel 1:1<\/strong> In the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, as I was among the exiles by the river Chebar, the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Ezekiel 1:3<\/strong> the word of the LORD came to Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chalde\u2019ans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the LORD was upon him there.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Ezekiel 1:4<\/strong> As I looked, behold, a stormy wind came out of the north, . . .<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">The book of Ezra switches suddenly to first person, from its usual third person perspective; for example: Ezra 7:28; 8:1, 15-16; 9:1, 3-4. Jesus frequently talks about Himself in the third person, such as when He refers to the \u201cSon of Man\u201d (which is a messianic title) and refers in context to this person (Himself) as \u201che\u201d or \u201chis\u201d. \u201cSon of Man\u201d appears 82 times in the Gospels, so this is not an uncommon occurrence:<br>\n*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Matthew 9:6<\/strong> But that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins\u201d \u2014 he then said to the paralytic \u2014 \u201cRise, take up your bed and go home.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Matthew 17:22<\/strong> As they were gathering in Galilee, Jesus said to them, \u201cThe Son of man is to be delivered into the hands of men,\u201d<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Matthew 20:28<\/strong> \u201ceven as the Son of man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Matthew 26:2<\/strong> \u201cYou know that after two days the Passover is coming, and the Son of man will be delivered up to be crucified.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Luke 7:34<\/strong> \u201cThe Son of man has come eating and drinking; and you say, `Behold, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!\u2019<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>*<br>\nLuke 9:58<\/strong> And Jesus said to him, \u201cFoxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man has nowhere to lay his head.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>*<br>\nLuke 22:48<\/strong> but Jesus said to him, \u201cJudas, would you betray the Son of man with a kiss?\u201d<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>John 9:35-37<\/strong> Jesus heard that they had cast him out, and having found him he said, \u201cDo you believe in the Son of man?\u201d [36] He answered, \u201cAnd who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?\u201d [37] Jesus said to him, \u201cYou have seen him, and it is he who speaks to you.\u201d<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">All of this shows that merely noting that Moses is referred to in the third person in the Torah is no unassailable argument against his authorship. 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[originally posted on Facebook on 13-14 December 2022] * My\u00a0 atheist friend \u201cLex Lata\u201d wrote on 11-30-22: * A few passages in the Torah depict Moses writing specific things down, but the \u2018Pentateuch never claims divine or Mosaic [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":74231,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[448],"tags":[2830,1722,17780,1724,14431,2835],"class_list":["post-74228","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-jews-judaism-old-testament","tag-hebrew-bible","tag-moses","tag-moses-as-the-author-of-the-torah","tag-old-testament","tag-pentateuch","tag-torah"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Does the Pentateuch Claim to be Inspired Revelation? 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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