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\"MaryAnnunciation5\"<\/p>\n

Wikipedia states about Heinrich Bullinger<\/a> (1504-1575):\u00a0\u00a0\u201cSwiss\u00a0reformer, the successor of\u00a0Huldrych Zwingli\u00a0as head of the Z\u00fcrich church . . . A much less controversial figure than\u00a0John Calvin\u00a0or\u00a0Martin Luther, his importance has long been underestimated; recent research shows that he was one of the most influential\u00a0theologians\u00a0of the\u00a0Protestant Reformation\u00a0in the 16th century.\u201d<\/p>\n

One source of his views in this regard is a \u201cSermon on Mary\u201d from 1558, as noted in the German work,\u00a0Das Marienlob der Reformatoren: Martin Luther, Johannes Calvin, Huldrych Zwingli, Heinrich Bullinger (Gebundene Ausgabe)<\/i><\/a>, by Walter Tappolet (Tubingen, 1962); somewhere around pp. 275-290.\u00a0See a\u00a0secondary reference<\/a>\u00a0to this from Google Books; also\u00a0an additional reference<\/a>\u00a0to it.<\/p>\n

Moreover, Bullinger wrote the\u00a0Second Helvetic Confession<\/a>\u00a0in 1562. In its\u00a0Chapter XI<\/a>, it refers to \u201cthe ever virgin Mary\u201d and \u201cthe Virgin Mary.\u201d In\u00a0Chapter III<\/a>\u00a0it mentions \u201cthe Blessed Virgin.\u201d\u00a0Here is the\u00a0original Latin version<\/a>\u00a0for Chapter XI, section 4 (complete):<\/p>\n

4. Eundem quoque \u00e6terni Dei \u00e6ternum Filium credimus et docemus hominis factum esse filium, ex semine Abrah\u00e6 atque Davidis, non ex viri coitu, quod Ebion dixit, sed conceptum purissime ex Spiritu Sancto, et natum\u00a0ex Maria semper virgine<\/b>: sicut diligenter nobis historia explicat evangelica (Matt. i. ). Et Paulus ait:\u00a0Nullibi angelos adsumit, sed semen Abrah\u00e6<\/i>\u00a0(Heb. ii. 16). Joannes item Apostolus, qui non credit, Jesum Christum in carne venisse, ex Deo non est (1 Joh. iv. 3). Caro ergo Christi nec phantastica fuit, nec c\u0153litus adlata, sicuti Valentinus et Marcion somniabant. (italics in original; bolding added presently)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Thus, we have one proof from the Second Helvetic Confession: a primary source in its original Latin (and English translation), and another (the 1558 \u201cSermon on Mary\u201d) alluded to in a standard compilation of the Mariology of the earliest Protestant leaders, and in at least two additional works devoted to historic Mariology.<\/p>\n

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Fran\u00e7ois\u00a0Turretin<\/a>\u00a0(1632-1687) was a major figure in Reformed Protestant (Calvinist) theology. Wikipedia<\/a> describes him as \u201can earnest defender of the\u00a0Calvinistic<\/a>\u00a0orthodoxy<\/a>\u00a0represented by the\u00a0Synod of Dort<\/a>, and as one of the\u00a0authors\u00a0of the\u00a0Helvetic Consensus<\/a><\/i>, which defended the formulation of\u00a0predestination\u00a0from the Synod of Dort and the verbal\u00a0inspiration\u00a0of the\u00a0Bible.\u201d<\/div>\n
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\nThanks to Perry Robinson (Orthodox), who\u00a0posted on this<\/a>\u00a0in November 2009, and my friend,\u00a0Nicholas Hardesty<\/a>, who called my attention to the same. The indented words below are all from Turretin. Bolding is Robinson\u2019s own.<\/div>\n
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This is not expressly declared in Scripture, but is yet piously believed with human faith from the\u00a0consent of the ancient church<\/b>. Thus it is\u00a0probable\u00a0<\/b>that the womb in which our Savior received the auspices of life (whence he entered into this world, as from a temple) was\u00a0so consecrated and sanctified<\/b>\u00a0by so great a guest that she always remained untouched by man; nor did Joseph ever cohabit with her.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hence Helvidius and the Antidicomarianites (so-called because they were opponents of [antidikoi] Mary)\u00a0are deservedly rebuked by the fathers<\/b>\u00a0for denying that Mary was always a virgin (aei Parthenon). They held that she cohabited with Joseph after delivery; yea, also bore children from him. As Augustine remarks,\u00a0they rely on the shallowest arguments<\/b>, i.e., because Christ is called the \u2018firstborn\u2019 of Mary (cf.\u00a0De Haeresibus<\/i>\u00a056, 84 [PL 42.40, 46]). For as Jerome well remarks, she was so called because no one was begotten before him, not because there was another after him. Hence among lawyers: \u2018He is the first whom no one precedes; he is last, whom no one follows.\u2019 The Hebrews were accustomed to call the firstborn also only begotten; Israel is called \u2018the first-born of God\u2019 (Ex 4:22), although the only people chosen of God. Thus \u2018the firstborn\u2019 is said to be \u2018holy unto God\u2019 (Ex 13:2), who first opened the womb, whether others followed or not. Otherwise the firstborn would not have to be redeemed until after another offspring had been procreated (the law shows this to be false because it commands it to be redeemed a month after birth, Num. 18:16).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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Not more solidly have they been able to elicit this from the fact that in the New Testament certain ones are called \u2018the brothers of Christ.\u2019 It is common in Scripture not only for one\u2019s own and full brothers by nature to be designated by this name, but also blood relatives and cousins (as Abraham and Lot, Jacob and Laban). Thus James and Joses, Simon and Judas are called brothers of Christ (Mt. 13:55) by a relation of blood. For Mary (who is called their mother by Matthew and Mark) is called by John the sister of the Lord\u2019s mother. However what is said in Jn. 7:5 that \u2018neither did his brethren believe him\u2019 must be understood of more remote blood relations.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Nor is it derived better from this-that Joseph is said \u2018not to have known Mary till she had brought forth her firstborn son\u2019 (Mt. 1:25). The particles \u2018till\u201d and \u2018even unto\u2019 are often referred only to the past, not to the future (i.e., they so connote the preceding time, concerning which there might be a doubt or which it was of the highest importance to know, as not to have a reference to the future-cf. Gen 28:15; Pss 122:2; 110:1; Mt.28:20, etc.). Thus is shown what was done by Joseph before the nativity of Christ (to wit, that he abstained form her); but it does not imply that he lived with her in any other way postpartum. When therefore she is said to have been found with child \u2018before they came together\u2019 (prin e synelthein autous<\/i>), preceding copulation is denied, but not subsequent affirmed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Although copulation had not taken place in that marriage,\u00a0it did not cease to be true and ratified\u00a0(although unconsummated) for not intercourse, but consent makes marriage. Therefore it was perfect as to form (to wit, undivided conjunction of life and unviolated faith), but not as to end (to wit, the procreation of children), although it was not deficient as to the raising of the offspring. (Institutes of Elenctic Theology<\/a><\/em>, vol. 2, 345-346)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n

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Related Reading:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Perpetual Virginity of Mary: Held by All Protestant Reformers<\/a> [1-27-02]<\/p>\n

John Calvin Believed in the Perpetual Virginity of Mary<\/a>\u00a0[6-17-10]<\/p>\n

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Luther & Mary\u2019s Virginity During Childbirth<\/a>\u00a0[10-12-11]<\/div>\n
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Calvin Held to Mary\u2019s Perpetual Virginity<\/a>\u00a0(with Tim Staples) [6-5-14]<\/div>\n
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Martin Luther\u2019s Belief in the Perpetual Virginity of Mary (+ Reformed Apologist James Swan\u2019s Belittling Contempt of Luther)<\/a>\u00a0[9-23-14]<\/div>\n
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John Calvin: Sermon 22 on Matthew 1:22-25 (Mary\u2019s Perpetual Virginity)\u00a0<\/a>[10-14-14]<\/div>\n
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Mariology of \u201cReformers\u201d Zwingli & Bullinger<\/a> [4-28-16]<\/div>\n
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(originally 1-5-10 and 6-1-10)<\/span><\/p>\n

Photo credit:<\/span>\u00a0<\/strong>The Annunciation<\/em>, by Mikhail Nesterov (1862-1942)<\/span> [public domain \/<\/span> Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n

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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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