{"id":76436,"date":"2023-10-05T10:28:33","date_gmt":"2023-10-05T14:28:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=76436"},"modified":"2023-10-06T01:00:25","modified_gmt":"2023-10-06T05:00:25","slug":"vs-j-oliveira-8-rule-of-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2023\/10\/vs-j-oliveira-8-rule-of-faith.html","title":{"rendered":"Vs. J. Oliveira #8: Rule of Faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"xdj266r x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs x126k92a\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2023\/09\/OliveiraJuan.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-76241\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2023\/09\/OliveiraJuan-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">[<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BrJuanoliveira\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">photo from Twitter<\/a>]<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Brazilian Protestant\u00a0<strong>Juan Roberto de Oliveira<\/strong>\u00a0is the author of the book,\u00a0<em>Nenhum Caminho Leva a Roma: O pecurso at\u00e9 o protestantismo<\/em>\u00a0[<em>No Road Leads to Rome: The Path to Protestantism<\/em>]. It has no date or publisher listed. But it was \u201crecently released.\u201d He\u2019s a <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201claw graduate\u201d<\/span> and\u00a0is\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/BrJuanoliveira\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">active on Twitter<\/a>\u00a0(now \u201cX\u201d) and, especially,\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/juanoliveira.br\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Instagram<\/a>. When I informed Juan of my replies, he quickly wrote on Twitter:\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cI\u2019ll be rebutting your rebuttals.\u201d\u00a0<\/span>I wish him all the best in that endeavor. If anyone discovers that he has ever answered any of my critiques, please let me know.<br>\n*<br>\nHis words will be in\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.\u00a0Translations from the Portugese of his book will be made with Google Translate (with an occasional additional modification). I will use RSV for Bible translations.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Just as I finished my tenth installment (10-5-23), <a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@fraternidadenewman25\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Fraternidade Newman Brasil<\/a> [<em>Newman Brazil Fraternity<\/em>] published a devastatingly comprehensive (and shocking) expose entitled<a href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@fraternidadenewman25\/apolog%C3%A9tica-da-desonestidade-evid%C3%AAncias-de-pl%C3%A1gio-e-outras-trapa%C3%A7as-no-livro-do-protestante-juan-6601c903caa9\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> \u201cApolog\u00e9tica da Desonestidade: Evid\u00eancias de Pl\u00e1gio e outras Trapa\u00e7as no Livro do Protestante Juan Roberto Oliveira\u201d<\/a> [<em>Apologetics of Dishonesty: Evidence of Plagiarism and other Cheating in the Book of Protestant Juan Roberto Oliveira<\/em>].<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">In light of this new information, this will be my last critique. It\u2019s a shame, because I was enjoying myself so much, and I felt that I came up with some fresh arguments, but this book deserves no further response. It was already a very weak, poor volume (desperately in need of an editor), even if these factors weren\u2019t in play. What I have written thus far has, in my opinion, value in and of itself, as a ten-part Catholic apologetics \u201ccourse.\u201d So it wasn\u2019t a waste of time at all. But no more. I\u2019m only interested in responding to serious, adequately researched, honest apologetics.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\" style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\" style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><em>Sola Scriptura<\/em> is a theological principle that is based on the belief that<\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Bible is the only final and infallible authority for Christian faith and practice. . . . the Bible is the supreme source of authority in matters of faith and morals, above traditions, church teachings or human opinions.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">. . . the norm by which all other authorities must be evaluated.<\/span> (p. 42)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>We agree on the definition. We disagree on whether it is a true or false and biblically supported viewpoint.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\" style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">[A]ny teaching or tradition that does not conform to the<\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Scriptures must be rejected.<\/span> (p. 42)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">What cannot be tradition is anything that is in conflict with the scriptures. <\/span>(p. 43)<\/p>\n<p>Catholics wholeheartedly agree. That\u2019s why we are so opposed to several Protestant man-made doctrines; \u201ctraditions of men\u201d: because they are contrary to Holy Scripture. Nothing personal against them; we\u2019re just trying to be consistently \u201cbiblical.\u201d We must, however, define what we mean by \u201cbiblical\u201d. Catholics mean by that, that every doctrine must be <em>in <strong>harmony<\/strong> with Scripture and not <strong>contrary<\/strong> to it<\/em>. Protestants often mean by the word, \u201c<em>explicitly<\/em> mentioned in Scripture.\u201d We agree with Martin Luther, when he wrote that \u201cwhat is not against the Scriptures is for the Scriptures and the Scriptures are for it\u201d (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=oEy_3aDT61sC&amp;printsec=titlepage#v=onepage&amp;q=what%20is%20not%20against%20the%20Scriptures&amp;f=false\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Letter to Philip Melanchthon, 13 January 1522<\/a>). I wrote in my article, <a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/explicit-bible-proofs-protestant-double-standards.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cExplicit\u201d Bible Proofs &amp; Protestant Double Standards<\/a> [2-12-16; with a little added presently]:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A doctrine can be \u201cbiblical\u201d without explicit mention in the Bible. Some things are implicit \/ indirect only, or logically deduced from other more explicit passages. Some doctrines, including many distinctively Protestant ones, are arguably not in the Bible at all. The New Testament never mentions an \u201caltar call\u201d. It never has the typical \u201csinner\u2019s prayer\u201d of evangelicals. It doesn\u2019t mention church buildings. It never uses the frequently mentioned evangelical terminology of \u201cpersonal relationship with Jesus.\u201d It never lists its own books (the biblical canon comes from the authority and proclamations of the Catholic Church and tradition). It never teaches\u00a0<em>sola Scriptura<\/em>, or the concept that the Bible is the only infallible source of authority. Yet \u2013oddly enough and passing strange \u2014 \u00a0this is one of the very\u00a0<em>\u201cpillars\u201d<\/em>\u00a0of the Protestant worldview.<\/p>\n<p>Other beliefs or practices not explicitly mentioned in the Bible are Bible studies, grape juice as an element to be consecrated for communion (rather than wine), \u201casking Jesus into one\u2019s heart,\u201d a \u201cbody of believers,\u201d Scripture interpreting Scripture (the more clear helping to understand the less clear), agreeing on \u201cessential\u201d or \u201cprimary\u201d doctrines and permitted relativism regarding \u201cnon-essential\u201d or \u201csecondary\u201d doctrines, denominations (vs. the biblical \u201cone Church\u201d). Of course, <em>this very idea<\/em>\u00a0that one must find explicit biblical proof for every doctrine or it can\u2019t \/ mustn\u2019t be believed (even with high selectivity or rank inconsistency) is not found in the Bible anywhere, either. It\u2019s (irony of all ironies!) a mere tradition of men.<\/p>\n<p>Some popular Protestant (and also often Catholic) words or phrases \u00a0that do not appear in the Bible are\u00a0<em>rapture<\/em>,\u00a0<em>invisible church<\/em>,<em>\u00a0incarnation<\/em>,\u00a0<em>virgin birth<\/em>,<em>\u00a0holy communion<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Lord\u2019s prayer<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Bible<\/em>,\u00a0<em>original sin<\/em>,\u00a0<em>fall of man<\/em>,\u00a0<em>theology<\/em>,\u00a0<em>go[ing] to church<\/em>,\u00a0<em>grace alone<\/em>,\u00a0<em>[total] depravity<\/em>,\u00a0<em>unconditional election<\/em>,\u00a0<em>limited atonement<\/em>,\u00a0<em>irresistible grace<\/em>,\u00a0<em>perseverance of the saints<\/em>,\u00a0<em>spirituality<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Scripture alone<\/em>,<em>\u00a0pray for guidance<\/em>,\u00a0<em>pray for direction<\/em>,\u00a0<em>spiritual warfare<\/em>, and\u00a0<em>sin nature<\/em>.\u00a0<em>Faith alone<\/em>\u00a0only appears once:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>James 2:24\u00a0<\/strong>You see that a man is justified by works and\u00a0<strong><em>not<\/em><\/strong> by\u00a0<em>faith alone<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><span data-ft='{\"tn\":\"K\"}'><span class=\"UFICommentBody _1n4g\">Protestants manage to believe all these things (or use these words) with no problem whatever. Why? Or, more specifically, why do they believe these things, which are absent from or non-explicit in the Bible, while giving Catholics misery for similar things, or else doctrines and practices with far\u00a0<em>more<\/em>\u00a0indication of various sorts than the things above, that Protestants accept? Why the double standard? Or is it just that the Protestants who sling these sorts of \u201carguments\u201d about never think about them very deeply, or have never met a Catholic who can show that they are very weak arguments indeed?<\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Sorry to get so in-depth about this, but the above clarifications are supremely important to keep in mind as we proceed with this vexed and vastly misunderstood topic.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">We have the famous verse that Catholics love to use to extol <\/span><\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">tradition, which is in 2 Thessalonians 2.15: \u201cSo, brothers, stand firm and<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, whether by word or by letter<\/span><\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">.\u201d<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">But this spoken tradition was the teachings contained in the<\/span><\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">letters from the apostles, and when not, the apostles did not introduce innovations.<\/span> (pp. 42-43)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now here is a classic \/ \u201ctextbook\u201d example of utterly wrongheaded and unbiblical Protestant tradition. What Juan is attempting to argue is absolutely absent from Holy Scripture. Nowhere does it ever claim that when \u201ctradition\u201d is mentioned, it can <em>only<\/em> refer to teachings in <em>other portions of the Bible<\/em> (which at the time were not even finally determined yet) and can never be anything beyond those (while still in harmony with them). It\u2019s a very silly, confused, unsupported claim, and its simply assumed without no basis for doing so. This is the notion that Protestants call \u201cinscripturation.\u201d\u00a0It was explained at length by the late Protestant apologist Norman Geisler, writing with Ralph MacKenzie, in the article, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.equip.org\/article\/a-defense-of-sola-scriptura\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cA Defense of <em>Sola Scriptura<\/em>\u201d<\/a>\u00a0(<i>Christian Research Institute<\/i>, 4-8-09; my italics):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It is not legitimate to appeal to any oral revelation in New Testament times as proof that nonbiblical infallible authority is in existence today. \u2026<\/p>\n<p>Since the death of the apostles the only apostolic authority we have is the inspired record of their teaching in the New Testament. That is, all apostolic tradition (teaching) on faith and practice is in the New Testament. \u2026 all apostolic teaching that God deemed necessary for the faith and practice (morals) of the church was preserved (2 Timothy 3:15-17). \u2026<\/p>\n<p>There is not a shred of evidence that any of the revelation God gave them to express was not <em>inscripturated<\/em> by them in the only books \u2014 the inspired books of the New Testament \u2014 that they left for the church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/the-one-legged-stool-called-inscripturation-is-not-taught-in-the-bible\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">I wrote about it in<\/a> <em>National Catholic Register<\/em> (3-15-21):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Protestants have to believe something akin to this notion, because of their aversion to extrabiblical (yet harmonious with Scripture) authoritative, binding tradition. They agree that what apostles taught was binding, but they fail to see that some of that teaching wouldn\u2019t be recorded in Scripture. The Bible itself teaches us that there\u00a0<i>are<\/i>\u00a0such teachings and deeds not recorded in it (John 20:30, 21:25, Acts 1:2-3, Luke 24:15-16,25-27). The logic is simple:<\/p>\n<p>Apostles\u2019 teaching was authoritative and binding (i.e., for all practical purposes, \u201cinfallible\u201d). Some of that teaching was recorded in Scripture, but some was not. The folks who heard their teaching were bound to it whether it was later \u201cinscripturated\u201d or not.\u00a0If they were so bound, it stands to reason that\u00a0<i>we<\/i> could and should be, also.\u00a0Scripture itself does not rule out the presence of an authoritative oral tradition, not recorded in words. Paul refers more than once to a non-written tradition (e.g., 2 Timothy 1:13-14, 2:2).<\/p>\n<p>When Paul was preaching he did so authoritatively, as an apostle. Not everything he said was later included in the Bible; therefore it was not all <i>inspired<\/i>\u00a0(he was no walking Bible-machine any more than Jesus was). But he was an\u00a0<i>authority<\/i>, and acted consciously upon this authority.\u00a0Inscripturation teaches that anything\u00a0<i>not<\/i>\u00a0recorded in Scripture could\u00a0<i>not\u00a0<\/i>have been passed down by Paul: a contention that is absurd on its face.<\/p>\n<p>As an example of a Protestant who accepts the binding, infallible nature of a teaching even if it isn\u2019t taught in the Bible, I submit Martin Luther, the founder of Protestantism. He wrote a letter [regarding infant baptism] to Albrecht (or Albert), Margrave of Brandenburg and Duke of Prussia, dated April 1532 by some and February or early March by others. The well-known Luther biographer Roland H. Bainton cites the following portion of it:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">This testimony of the universal holy Christian Church, <i>even if we had nothing else<\/i>, would be a sufficient warrant for holding this article [on the sacrament] and refusing to suffer or listen to a sectary, for it is dangerous and fearful to hear or believe anything against the unanimous testimony, belief, and teaching of the universal holy Christian churches, unanimously held in all the world from the beginning until now over fifteen hundred years. (<em>Studies on the Reformation<\/em>, Boston: Beacon Press, 1963, p. 26; primary source:<i> WA [Werke<\/i>, Weimar edition in German], Vol. XXX, 552; my italics)<\/p>\n<p>St. Augustine had taught the same 1100 years earlier:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">As to those other things which we hold on the authority, not of Scripture, but of tradition, and which are observed throughout the whole world, it may be understood that they are held as approved and instituted either by the apostles themselves, or by plenary Councils, whose authority in the Church is most useful, . . . For often have I perceived, with extreme sorrow, many disquietudes caused to weak brethren by the contentious pertinacity . . . of some who, in matters of this kind, which do not admit of final decision by the authority of Holy Scripture, or by the tradition of the universal Church. (Letter to Januarius, 54, 1, 1; 54, 2, 3)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">Since Old Testament times we see God preserving his word through<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">of writing.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">This is why the Bible often uses the expression \u201cit is written\u201d,<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">31 times in the Old Testament and 78 times in the New Testament.<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">God said it<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">in Isaiah 30:8: \u201cGo now, write this on a tablet before them and<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">record it in a book;<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">so that it may remain until the last day, forever and ever<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">perpetually.\u201d<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">The way God uses to preserve his word throughout the ages<\/span><\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">centuries is not through word of mouth, it is through writing.<\/span> (p. 43)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>God <em>does<\/em> primarily use writing, but it\u2019s not <em>all<\/em> He uses, and the Bible bears witness to oral tradition as well:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/biblical-evidence-for-apostolic-oral-tradition-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Biblical Evidence for Apostolic Oral Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[2-20-09]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/biblical-evidence-for-the-oral-torah-hence-by-analogy-oral-apostolic-tradition.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Biblical Evidence for the Oral Torah &amp; Oral Apostolic Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[10-18-11]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/10\/anglican-newman-on-oral-written-apostolic-tradition.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anglican Newman on Oral &amp; Written Apostolic Tradition<\/a>\u00a0[10-12-19]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/10\/oral-tradition-according-to-great-historic-apologists.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Oral Tradition According to Great Historic Apologists<\/a>\u00a0[10-18-19]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/darmstrong\/in-the-bible-word-of-god-usually-means-oral-proclamation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">In the Bible, \u201cWord of God\u201d Usually Means Oral Proclamation<\/a>\u00a0[<em>National Catholic Register<\/em>, 12-17-19]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/12\/jesus-the-nazarene-did-matthew-make-up-a-prophecy.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jesus the \u201cNazarene\u201d: Did Matthew Make Up a \u201cProphecy\u201d? (Reply to Jonathan M. S. Pearce from the Blog,\u00a0<em>A Tippling Philosopher\u00a0<\/em>\/ Oral Traditions and Possible Lost Old Testament Books Referred to in the Bible)<\/a>\u00a0[12-17-20]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/oral-tradition-more-biblical-pauline-evidence.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Oral Tradition: More Biblical (Pauline) Evidence (. . . and an Examination of the False and Unbiblical Protestant Supposed Refutation of \u201cInscripturation\u201d)<\/a>\u00a0[2-27-21]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798\/posts\/4254260661275553?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZUsmxTYDyJhnl1N637raelWRz-fhX7b3EkzvtUCZRrM_jlSBhzyjwhX18vF7YyuudKCqsHSkOoVHrJPAchR4qbTb9CieKh_nDOJmdmatVxSKAyWeb8hJsyC-2yhIwWqNeQ&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Authoritative Non-Biblical Oral Proclamation from a Prophet (Not an Apostle) Led by the Holy Spirit, After the Day of Pentecost<\/a>\u00a0[Facebook, 4-1-21]<\/p>\n<p>In the Torah (first five books of the OT), nothing can be found in Mosaic Law forbidding the carrying of objects from one\u2019s house on the Sabbath. Yet according to the prophet Jeremiah, God willed that Jerusalem be destroyed for not abiding by this oral tradition and command:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><b>Jeremiah 17:21-22, 27<\/b> Thus says the LORD: Take heed for the sake of your lives, and do not bear a burden on the sabbath day or bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem. [22] And do not carry a burden out of your houses on the sabbath or do any work, but keep the sabbath day holy, as I commanded your fathers. . . . [27] But if you do not listen to me, to keep the sabbath day holy, and not to bear a burden and enter by the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day, then I will kindle a fire in its gates, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem and shall not be quenched.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, the written revelation of the Old Testament referred to the oral Torah, given to Moses (according to Jewish tradition) on Mt. Sinai at the same time he received the written Law. It even says that God \u201ccommanded\u201d this stipulation for the Sabbath. Since it isn\u2019t found in the written Torah, then it had to come from the authoritative oral Torah.<\/p>\n<p>Surprisingly enough, the written Torah never specifies that\u00a0<em>Jerusalem<\/em> would be the central place of worship, or that a <em>temple<\/em> was to be built there (neither the words \u201ctemple\u201d \u2014 in this sense \u2014 nor \u201cJerusalem\u201d ever appears in the Pentateuch or Torah: first five books of the Bible). It\u2019s never taught in the Torah that a permanent temple would replace the tabernacle (<em>extensively<\/em> dealt with in the Torah) as the central place of worship. If God didn\u2019t authoritatively reveal His plan concerning a future temple to Moses, then all of the sacrificial worship of Israel from the time of Solomon was invalid. Therefore, the command had to be in the oral Torah.<\/p>\n<p>The Jerusalem Council issued four commands to Gentile believers. Three dealt with food (Acts 15:20, 29; 21:25), and two of those derived from the oral Torah (written down much later): namely, not to eat things sacrificed to idols (Mishnah Avodah Zorah 2:3) or things strangled (Mishnah Chullin 1:2). The written Torah doesn\u2019t prohibit either, yet Jesus strongly condemns Pergamum and Thyatira for not observing their ban (Rev 2:14, 20).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">John Chrysostom exhorted<\/span><\/span>\u00a0<span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">his congregation not to seek any other teaching than the oracles<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">of God, as everything that was needed could be extracted directly and<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">clearly from the Bible.<\/span><\/span><\/span> (p. 59)<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s untrue. He also wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not by letters alone did Paul instruct his disciple in his duty, but before by words also which he shows, both in many other passages, as where he says, \u201cwhether by word or our Epistle\u201d (2 Thess. ii. 15.), and especially here. Let us not therefore suppose that anything relating to doctrine was spoken imperfectly. For many things he delivered to him without writing. Of these therefore he reminds him, when he says, \u201cHold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me.\u201d\u00a0(<i><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/230703.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Homily III on 2 Timothy<\/a>\u00a0<\/i>\u2013 on 2 Tim 1:13-18)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat ye remember me in all things, and hold fast the traditions, even as I delivered them to you.\u201d It appears then that he used at that time to deliver many things also not in writing, which he shows too in many other places. But at that time he only delivered them, whereas now he adds an explanation of their reason: thus both rendering the one sort, the obedient, more steadfast, and pulling down the others\u2019 pride, who oppose themselves.\u00a0(<i><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ccel.org\/ccel\/schaff\/npnf112.iv.xxvii.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Homily XXVI on 1 Corinthians<\/a><\/i>; commenting on 1 Corinthians 11:2)<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSo then, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye were taught, whether by word, or by Epistle of ours.\u201dHence it is manifest, that they did not deliver all things by Epistle, but many things also unwritten, and in like manner both the one and the other are worthy of credit. Therefore let us think the tradition of the Church also worthy of credit. It is a tradition, seek no farther. Here he shows that there were many who were shaken.\u00a0(<i><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/newadvent.org\/fathers\/23054.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">On Second Thessalonians<\/a><\/i>, Homily IV)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Chrysostom even appeals to an apostolic unwritten tradition of intercessory prayers for the dead:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Not in vain did the Apostles order that remembrance should be made of the dead in the dreadful Mysteries. They know that great gain resulteth to them, great benefit; for when the whole people stands with uplifted hands, a priestly assembly, and that awful Sacrifice lies displayed, how shall we not prevail with God by our entreaties for them? And this we do for those who have departed in faith, . . . (<i><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/230203.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">On Philippians<\/a><\/i>, Homily 3)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Concerning the\u00a0\u201csacred writers,\u201d\u00a0St. John Chrysostom commented:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>. . . it was no object with them to be writers of books: in fact, there are many things which they have delivered by unwritten tradition.\u00a0(<i><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/210101.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">On Acts of the Apostles<\/a><\/i>, Homily 1)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In St. Paul\u2019s epistles tradition, gospel, and word of God are synonymous concepts. They\u2019re all predominantly oral, not written, and are referred to as being \u201cdelivered\u201d and \u201creceived\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Corinthians 11:2<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0. . . maintain the traditions . .\u00a0 . . even as I have delivered them to you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2 Thessalonians 2:15<\/strong>\u00a0\u00a0. . . hold to the traditions . . . .\u00a0 taught . . . by word of mouth or by letter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2 Thessalonians 3:6 \u00a0<\/strong>. . . the tradition that you received from us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Corinthians 15:1\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0. . . the gospel, which you received . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Galatians 1:9\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0. . . the gospel . . . which you received.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Thessalonians 2:9\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0. . . we preached to you the gospel of God.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Thessalonians 2:13\u00a0<\/strong>\u00a0. . . you received the word of God, which you heard from us, . . . (cf. Acts 8:14)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\" style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">Athanasius wrote that \u201cthe holy Scriptures<\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">and inspired were completely sufficient to proclaim the truth.\u201d<\/span> (p. 59)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Of course they are. But Athanasius did not hold to <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>.\u00a0St. Athanasius affirmed infallible Church and conciliar pronouncements, the Catholic rule of faith, and the binding, infallible nature of doctrines received through apostolic succession and apostolic tradition (all expressly contrary to <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But the word of the Lord which came through the\u00a0ecumenical Synod at Nicea, abides forever.\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Ad Afros\u00a0<\/i><\/a><em><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Epistola Synodica<\/a><\/em>2; in NPNF2, IV:489)<\/p>\n<p>But let the Faith confessed by the\u00a0Fathers\u00a0at Nic\u00e6a alone hold good among you, at which all the fathers, including those of the men who now are fighting against it, were present, as we said above, and signed: in order that of us too the Apostle may say, \u2018Now I praise you that you remember me in all things, and as I handed the\u00a0traditions\u00a0to you, so hold them fast\u00a0<span id=\"note283766\" class=\"stiki\">1\u00a0Corinthians\u00a011:2<\/span>.\u2019\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Ad Afros\u00a0<\/i><\/a><em><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Epistola Synodica<\/a><\/em>10)<\/p>\n<p>For had they believed aright, they would have been satisfied with the confession put forth at Nic\u00e6a by the whole Ecumenical Council; . . . Observe how entirely they disregard the truth, and how everything they say and do is for the sake of the Arian heresy. For in that they dare to question those sound definitions of the faith, and take upon themselves to produce others contrary to them, what else do they but accuse the Fathers, and stand up in defense of that heresy which they opposed and protested against?\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2812.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Ad Episcopos Aegypti et Libyae<\/em><\/a>, 5)<\/p>\n<p>Who, then, that has any real regard for\u00a0truth, will be willing to suffer these men any longer? Who will not\u00a0justly reject their writing? Who will not denounce their audacity, that being but few in number, they would have their decisions to prevail over everything, and as desiring the supremacy of their own meetings, held in corners and suspicious in their circumstances, would forcibly cancel the decrees of an uncorrupt, pure, and Ecumenical Council?\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2812.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Ad Episcopos Aegypti et Libyae<\/em><\/a>, 7)<\/p>\n<p>It is enough merely to answer such things as follows: we are content with the fact that this is not the teaching of the\u00a0Catholic\u00a0Church, nor did the fathers hold this.\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2806059.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Letter No. 59 to Epictetus<\/a>, 3)<\/p>\n<p>What defect of teaching was there for religious\u00a0truth\u00a0in the\u00a0Catholic\u00a0Church . . .?\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2817.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>De Synodis<\/em><\/a>, I, 3)<\/p>\n<p>But ye are blessed, who by faith are in the Church, dwell upon the foundations of the faith, and have full satisfaction, even the highest degree of faith which remains among you unshaken. For it has come down to you from Apostolic tradition, . . .\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/orthodoxchurchfathers.com\/fathers\/npnf204\/npnf2101.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Fragment from Letter No. 29<\/a>\u00a0[Migne,\u00a0xxvi<i>,<\/i> p. 1189] )<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div>St. Athanasius makes it very clear that Paul made a distinction between man-made, merely human traditions, and apostolic tradition and succession: classifying the latter as a good and necessary thing:<\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote><p>6.\u00a0 . . . Therefore Paul\u00a0justly praises the Corinthians [<span id=\"note283962\" class=\"stiki\">1 Corinthians 11:2]<\/span>,\u00a0<strong>because their opinions were in accordance with his traditions<\/strong>. And the Lord most righteously reproved the\u00a0Jews, saying, \u2018Wherefore do you also transgress the commandments of God on account of\u00a0<strong>your traditions<\/strong>\u00a0[<span id=\"note283963\" class=\"stiki\">Matthew 15:3]<\/span>.\u2019 For they changed the commandments they received from God after their own understanding, preferring to observe the<strong>\u00a0traditions of men<\/strong>. And about these, a little after, the\u00a0blessed Paul again gave directions to the Galatians who were in danger thereof, writing to them, \u2018If any man preach to you\u00a0<strong>anything else than that you have received<\/strong>, let him be accursed [<span id=\"note283964\" class=\"stiki\">Galatians 1:9]<\/span>.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>7. For there is no fellowship whatever between the words of the\u00a0saints\u00a0and the\u00a0<strong>fancies of\u00a0human\u00a0invention<\/strong>; for the\u00a0saints\u00a0are the ministers of the\u00a0truth, preaching the\u00a0kingdom of heaven, but those who are borne in the opposite direction have nothing better than to eat, and think their end is that they shall cease to be, and they say, \u2018Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die [<span id=\"note283965\" class=\"stiki\">Isaiah 22:13]<\/span>.\u2019 Therefore blessed Luke\u00a0<strong>reproves the inventions of\u00a0men<\/strong>, and\u00a0<strong>hands down the narrations of the\u00a0saints<\/strong>, saying in the beginning of the\u00a0Gospel, \u2018Since many have presumed to write narrations of those events of which we are assured, as those who from the beginning were witnesses and ministers of the Word have delivered to us; it has seemed\u00a0good\u00a0to me also, who have adhered to them all from the first, to write correctly in order to you, O excellent Theophilus, that you may\u00a0know\u00a0the\u00a0truth concerning the things in which you have been instructed [<span id=\"note283966\" class=\"stiki\">Luke 1:1]<\/span>.\u2019 For a<strong>s each of the\u00a0saints\u00a0has received, that they impart without alteration<\/strong>, for the confirmation of the doctrine of the\u00a0mysteries. Of these the (divine) word would have us\u00a0disciples, and these should of right be our teachers, and to them only is it necessary to give heed, for of them only is \u2018the word faithful and worthy of all acceptation [<span id=\"note283967\" class=\"stiki\">1 Timothy 1:15]<\/span>;\u2019 these not being\u00a0disciples because they heard from others, but being eye-witnesses and ministers of the Word,\u00a0<strong>that which they had heard from Him have they handed down<\/strong>. (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2806002.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Festal Letter No. 2<\/a>, 6-7; my bolding)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Juan presents <em>partial<\/em>\u00a0truths; I present the\u00a0<em>whole<\/em> truth. Let the reader decide where the truth resides. Athanasius is expressly stating that he passes down the tradition that he received from men who knew and learned from the apostles and writers of the Bible. That\u2019s apostolic tradition!<\/p>\n<p>Athanasius offered a magnificent description of conciliar infallibility and the Catholic rule of faith, including apostolic succession (even including, for good measure, the authority of the pope):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The letters are sufficient which were written by\u00a0<strong>our beloved fellow-minister Damasus,\u00a0bishop\u00a0of the Great Rome, and the large number of\u00a0bishops\u00a0who assembled along with him<\/strong>; and equally so are those of the other synods which were held, both in\u00a0Gaul\u00a0and in\u00a0Italy, concerning\u00a0<strong>the sound Faith which Christ gave us, the Apostles preached, and the Fathers, who met at Nic\u00e6a from all this world of ours, have handed down<\/strong>. For so great a stir was made at that time about the\u00a0Arian\u00a0heresy, in order that they who had fallen into it might be reclaimed, while its inventors might be made manifest. . . . they were not afraid of\u00a0God, who says, \u2018Remove not the\u00a0eternal boundaries which your fathers placed [<span id=\"note283714\" class=\"stiki\">Proverbs 22:28]<\/span>,\u2019 and \u2018He that speaks against father or mother, let him die the death [<span id=\"note283715\" class=\"stiki\">Exodus 21:17]<\/span>:\u2019\u00a0<strong>they were not in awe of their fathers<\/strong>, who enjoined that they who hold the opposite of their confession should be\u00a0anathema.\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Ad Afros\u00a0<\/i><\/a><em><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Epistola Synodica<\/a>\u00a0<\/em>1; my bolding)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He taught that the Council of Nicaea was in line with apostolic succession as well as Scripture:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>For that of Nic\u00e6a is sufficient, agreeing as it does with the ancient\u00a0bishops\u00a0also, in which too their fathers signed, whom they ought to respect, on pain of being thought anything but\u00a0Christians. But if even after such\u00a0proofs, and after the testimony of the ancient\u00a0bishops, and the signature of their own Fathers, they pretend as if in\u00a0ignorance to be alarmed at the phrase \u2018coessential,\u2019 . . .\u00a0(<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Ad Afros\u00a0<\/i><\/a><em><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/2819.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Epistola Synodica\u00a0<\/a><\/em>9)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"> Cyril of Jerusalem argued that \u201cin the divine and<\/span><\/span> <span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\">saving principles of faith, no doctrine, however common, can be taught<\/span><\/span> <\/span><span class=\"jCAhz ChMk0b\"><span class=\"ryNqvb\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">without the support of the divine Scriptures.\u201d<\/span> (p. 59)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s fine; we agree with that. But did Cyril believe in <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>? Absolutely not. He\u00a0refers to the passing-on of apostolic tradition:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>And now, brethren beloved, the word of instruction exhorts you all, to prepare your souls for the reception of the heavenly gifts. As regards the Holy and <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/pentecostal' target='_blank'>Apostolic Faith<\/a> delivered to you to profess, we have spoken through the grace of the Lord as many Lectures, as was possible,. . . (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/310118.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">XVIII:32<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He regards the Church as the determinant of orthodoxy, insofar as what it holds, is apostolic Christianity:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>And to be brief, let us neither separate them, nor make a confusion : neither say thou ever that the Son is foreign to the Father, nor admit those who say that the Father is at one time Father, and at another Son: for these are strange and impious statements, and not the doctrines of the Church. (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/310111.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">XI:18<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>And formerly the heretics were manifest; but now the Church is filled with heretics in disguise. For men have fallen away from the truth, and\u00a0<i>have itching ears<\/i>.\u00a0<span id=\"note311852\" class=\"stiki\">[2\u00a0Tim 4:3]<\/span>\u00a0Is it a plausible discourse? All listen to it gladly. Is it a word of correction? All turn away from it. Most have departed from right words, and rather choose the evil, than desire the good. This therefore is\u00a0<i>the falling away<\/i>, and the enemy is soon to be looked for: and meanwhile he has in part begun to send forth his own forerunners , that he may then come prepared upon the prey. Look therefore to yourself, O man, and make safe your soul. The Church now charges you before the Living God; she declares to you the things concerning Antichrist before they arrive. Whether they will happen in your time we know not, or whether they will happen after you we know not; but it is well that, knowing these things, you should make yourself secure beforehand. (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/310115.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">XV:9<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>[T]he Catholic Church guarding you beforehand has delivered to you in the profession of the faith,\u00a0 . . . (<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/310117.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">XVII:3<\/a>)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He speaks in terms of the Catholic \u201cthree-legged stool\u201d rule of faith: tradition, Church, and Scripture: all harmonious:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>But in learning the Faith and in professing it, acquire and keep that only, which is now delivered to you by the Church, and which has been built up strongly out of all the Scriptures. For since all cannot read the Scriptures, some being hindered as to the knowledge of them by want of learning, and others by a want of leisure, in order that the soul may not perish from ignorance, we comprise the whole doctrine of the Faith in a few lines. This summary I wish you both to commit to memory when I recite it , and to rehearse it with all diligence among yourselves, not writing it out on paper , but engraving it by the memory upon your heart , taking care while you rehearse it that no Catechumen chance to overhear the things which have been delivered to you. . . . for the present listen while I simply say the Creed , and commit it to memory; but at the proper season expect the confirmation out of Holy Scripture of each part of the contents. For the articles of the Faith were not composed as seemed good to men; but the most important points collected out of all the Scripture make up one complete teaching of the Faith. And just as the mustard seed in one small grain contains many branches, so also this Faith has embraced in few words all the knowledge of godliness in the Old and New Testaments. Take heed then, brethren, and\u00a0<i>hold fast the traditions<\/i>\u00a0which you now receive, and\u00a0<i>write them on the table of your heart<\/i>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Guard them with reverence, lest per chance the enemy despoil any who have grown slack; or lest some heretic pervert any of the truths delivered to you. For faith is like putting money into the bank , even as we have now done; but from you God requires the accounts of the deposit.\u00a0<i>I charge you<\/i>, as the Apostle says,\u00a0<i>before God, who quickens all things, and Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed the good confession, that you keep<\/i>\u00a0this faith which is committed to you,\u00a0<i>without spot, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ<\/i>. 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I\u2019m always in need of more funds: especially\u00a0<em>monthly<\/em>\u00a0support. \u201cThe laborer is worthy of his wages\u201d (1 Tim 5:18, NKJV). 1 December 2021 was my 20th anniversary as a\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/my-literary-resume.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">full-time Catholic apologist<\/a>, and February 2022 marked the 25th anniversary of my blog.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/us\/webapps\/mpp\/sem\/account-selection-signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PayPal donations<\/a>\u00a0are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. You\u2019ll see the term \u201cCatholic Used Book Service\u201d, which is my old side-business. To learn about the different methods of contributing, including 100% tax deduction, etc., see my page:\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/about-dave-armstrong-2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">About Catholic Apologist Dave Armstrong \/ Donation Information<\/a>.\u00a0<strong><em>Thanks a million<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0from the bottom of my heart!<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">***<br>\n*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: I refute Juan Oliveira\u2019s weak \u201cproofs\u201d for sola Scriptura as the rule of faith, from the Bible &amp; from the Church fathers (Athanasius, Chrysostom, &amp; Cyril of Jerusalem).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[photo from Twitter] *** Brazilian Protestant\u00a0Juan Roberto de Oliveira\u00a0is the author of the book,\u00a0Nenhum Caminho Leva a Roma: O pecurso at\u00e9 o protestantismo\u00a0[No Road Leads to Rome: The Path to Protestantism]. It has no date or publisher listed. But it was \u201crecently released.\u201d He\u2019s a \u201claw graduate\u201d and\u00a0is\u00a0active on Twitter\u00a0(now \u201cX\u201d) and, especially,\u00a0Instagram. When I [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":76241,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[231,31],"tags":[48,514,1029,32,902,47],"class_list":["post-76436","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-anti-catholicism","category-bible-and-tradition","tag-bible-alone","tag-bible-only","tag-church-authority","tag-rule-of-faith","tag-sacred-tradition","tag-sola-scriptura"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Vs. J. Oliveira #8: Rule of Faith Vs. J. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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