{"id":7951,"date":"2016-06-07T12:28:30","date_gmt":"2016-06-07T16:28:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=7951"},"modified":"2017-10-22T17:54:40","modified_gmt":"2017-10-22T21:54:40","slug":"honorius-disproof-of-papal-infallibility","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/06\/honorius-disproof-of-papal-infallibility.html","title":{"rendered":"Honorius: Disproof of Papal Infallibility?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-7953 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2016\/06\/Honorius.jpg\" alt=\"Honorius\" width=\"381\" height=\"600\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Mosaic depicting Pope Honorius I, from the 7th century basilica of Sant\u2019Agnese fuori le mura, Rome<\/span>\u00a0[<a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Onorio_I_-_mosaico_Santa_Agnese_fuori_le_mura.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a> \/\u00a0 <a class=\"extiw decorated-link\" title=\"w:en:Creative Commons\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/en:Creative_Commons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Creative Commons<\/a> <a class=\"external text decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/deed.en\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic<\/a> license]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">From my book, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/books-by-dave-armstrong-one-minute.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The One-Minute Apologist<\/a> (<\/em>2007); but this is my initial draft version: significantly different from the text of the published book.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The case of Pope Honorius proves that popes have erred, even <i>ex cathedra<\/i><\/span><\/h3>\n<p class=\"western\" align=\"center\">If this heretical pope could err so greatly when teaching doctrine, how can we believe that popes are infallible?<\/p>\n<h4 class=\"western\" style=\"text-align: center;\">Initial reply<\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">If Pope Honorius (r. 625-638) held to the heresy of Monothelitism (Jesus had one will, not two), he nonetheless did not teach it officially or make it a required belief for all Catholics; therefore, the doctrine of papal infallibility was not contradicted.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"left\"><b>Extensive reply <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The First Vatican Council (1870) definitively explained how and when a papal proclamation is considered infallible (emphasis added):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed: that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks <i>ex cathedra<\/i>, that is, when, in discharge of the office of pastor and teacher of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, <em>he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church<\/em>, is, by the divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, possessed of that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Without getting into unnecessary and complicated details about the Honorius case, is it true that what he stated about Jesus having \u201cone will\u201d qualify as consciously infallible statements? The answer is \u201cno\u201d; Honorius\u2019 questionable opinions occurred in private letters, not public \u201cencyclicals.\u201d It is argued that since Honorius was condemned as a heretic by the ecumenical Council of Constantinople in 681, he must have uttered a false statement, intended as infallible. But this presupposes that his errors were uttered <i>ex cathedra<\/i>: at the highest level of Catholic authority. In fact, in these letters he didn\u2019t authoritatively define anything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Honorius <i>may<\/i> have personally been a heretic (as is believed by some Catholic scholars), but this would not affect the doctrine of infallibility, either, since he didn\u2019t authoritatively teach a wrong doctrine or make it binding on the entire Church. Other scholars deny that the letters contained heresy, or contend that it was simply a matter of unfortunate, imprudent expression and choice of words\u00a0(Pope Leo II confirmed the council\u2019s statement and made clear that this was his opinion). Still others think that Honorius was only condemning the notion that Christ had two<em> contrary<\/em> wills (or at least two not-entirely-harmonious wills), which is a correct and orthodox thing to do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In any of these scenarios, papal infallibility as understood by Catholics for centuries, is completely unharmed. The Honorius case, though widely considered the very best historical evidence against papal infallibility, is \u2013 closely examined \u2014 a huge red herring.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">In a similar incident, Pope John XXII (r. 1316-1334) denied that souls enjoyed the Beatific Vision prior to the Last Judgment, which was contrary to the received opinion up to that time. He was widely opposed by theologians and the masses of laymen, and the doctrine was defined against his view by his successor, Benedict XII, in 1336. So Pope John XXII was a heretic in that regard, but he didn\u2019t <i>define<\/i> the doctrine; therefore papal infallibility was again not relevant, as with Honorius. That popes can possibly err in theology, privately, as individual persons, is a notion freely accepted by Catholics.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"left\"><b>Objection <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Honorius wasn\u2019t the only notorious example of an erring pope. How about Liberius and Vigilius? Don\u2019t their cases also illustrate the falsity of infallibility?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"left\"><b>Reply to Objection <\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">These two incidents do not disprove Catholic infallibility, either. The necessary conditions were simply not met. Opinions differ as to whether Liberius (r. 352-366) caved in and signed an Arian statement (Arianism was a rampant heresy that denied the divinity of Christ). But if so, it was as a result of being imprisoned by the Arian emperor Constantius, under threats of possible execution or torture. That hardly qualifies for a free promulgation of a doctrine.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Vigilius (r. 537-555), flip-flopped and wavered on some doctrinal questions involving the doctrine of Christ, too (Monophysitism and Nestorianism). One letter where he supposedly accepted the former heresy is regarded by many scholars as a forgery. Emperor Justinian seized the pope by force, imprisoned him, and this weak pope made questionable statements under coercion and duress (much like Liberius). In any event, the nature of the statements and the conditions do not fall under the sphere of infallibility.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">God gives popes the charism of infallibility, for them to be able to teach Christian truth to the whole Church. Only in such cases does it operate; and not once \u00a0in the long history of the Catholic Church has a pope taught moral or doctrinal error in such an instance.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" align=\"left\"><b>Dom John Chapman<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The letter [to Sergius, Patriarch of Constantinople] cannot be called a private one, for it is an official reply to a formal consultation. It had, however, less publicity than a modern Encyclical. As the letter does not define or condemn, and does not bind the Church to accept its teaching, it is of course impossible to regard it as an <i>ex cathedra<\/i> utterance . . . It should be noted that he [Emperor Constantine Pogonatus] calls Honorius \u201cthe confirmer of the heresy and contradictor of himself\u201d, again showing that Honorius was not condemned by the council as a Monothelite, but for approving Sergius\u2019s contradictory policy of placing orthodox and heretical expressions under the same ban . . . The fault of Honorius lay precisely in the fact that he had not authoritatively published that unchanging faith of his Church, in modern language, that he had not issued a definition <i>ex cathedra<\/i>. . . . The new pope, Leo II, had naturally no difficulty in giving to the decrees of the council the formal confirmation which the council asked from him, according to custom. The words about Honorius in his letter of confirmation, by which the council gets its ecumenical rank, are necessarily more important than the decree of the council itself: \u201cWe anathematize . . . Honorius, who did not attempt to sanctify this Apostolic Church with the teaching of Apostolic tradition, but by profane treachery permitted its purity to be polluted.\u201d This appears to express exactly the mind of the council, only that the council avoided suggesting that Honorius disgraced the Roman Church.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">(<i>The Catholic Encyclopedia<\/i>, 1910, Vol. VII, \u201cHonorius\u201d)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p>Meta Description:\u00a0Explanation of how the notorious (infamous) case of Pope Honorius (r. 625-638) does not in the least disprove papal infallibility.<\/p>\n<p>Meta Keywords:\u00a0apostolic succession, Bible &amp; Papacy, biblical authority, canon of Scripture, ecclesiology, papacy, Petrine primacy, popes, primacy of Rome, Rule of Faith, Sola Scriptura, St. Peter, papal infallibility, Honorius, Vigilius, Liberius<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mosaic depicting Pope Honorius I, from the 7th century basilica of Sant\u2019Agnese fuori le mura, Rome\u00a0[Wikimedia Commons \/\u00a0 Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic license] *** From my book, The One-Minute Apologist (2007); but this is my initial draft version: significantly different from the text of the published book. *** The case of Pope Honorius [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":7953,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[138],"tags":[598,1131,1132,616,163,2938,2940,161,813,1130,162,1133,32,47,1129,2939],"class_list":["post-7951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-papacy-infallibility","tag-apostolic-succession","tag-bible-papacy","tag-biblical-authority","tag-canon-of-scripture","tag-ecclesiology","tag-honorius","tag-liberius","tag-papacy","tag-papal-infallibility","tag-petrine-primacy","tag-popes","tag-primacy-of-rome","tag-rule-of-faith","tag-sola-scriptura","tag-st-peter","tag-vigilius"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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