{"id":83565,"date":"2024-05-23T09:34:17","date_gmt":"2024-05-23T13:34:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=83565"},"modified":"2024-05-23T09:40:15","modified_gmt":"2024-05-23T13:40:15","slug":"ecclesial-infallibility-reply-to-an-anti-catholic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2024\/05\/ecclesial-infallibility-reply-to-an-anti-catholic.html","title":{"rendered":"Ecclesial Infallibility: Reply to an Anti-Catholic"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2024\/05\/Cover-432x653-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-83568\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2024\/05\/Cover-432x653-1-198x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"198\" height=\"300\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>\u201cPlease Hit \u2018Subscribe\u2019\u201d!<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span>If you have received benefit from this or any of my other 4,600+ articles, please follow this blog by signing up (with your email address) on the sidebar to the right (you may have to scroll down a bit), above where there is an icon bar, \u201cSign Me Up!\u201d: to receive notice when I post a new blog article. 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All of this helps me get more exposure, and (however little!) more income for my full-time apologetics work. Thanks so much and happy reading!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">I am responding to the book,\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/plainreasons00littuoft\/page\/24\/mode\/2up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Plain Reasons Against Joining the Church of Rome<\/em>\u00a0<\/a>(London: Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge, 1880), by\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Richard_Frederick_Littledale\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Richard Frederick Littledale<\/a>\u00a0(1833-1890), an Anglo-Irish clergyman and prolific author. He received LL.B. and LL.D. degrees from Trinity College Dublin, in 1862, and a D.C.L. from Oxford. He was renowned as a father confessor, and next to\u00a0<a class=\"mw-redirect decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Edward Pusey\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Edward_Pusey\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Edward Pusey<\/a>\u00a0is said to have heard more confessions than any other priest of the church of England. His\u00a0<i>Plain Reasons Against Joining the Church of Rome,<\/i>\u00a0a volume of which thirty-six thousand copies were issued in 1880 and following years, evoked replies from the Rev. W. Horsfall, the Rev. A. Mills, Oxoniensis, and\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Henry_Ignatius_Dudley_Ryder\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">H. I. D. Ryder<\/a>. I\u2019ll be addressing his argument against the infallibility of the Church. His words will be in <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>there is in Scripture no promise of infallibility to the Church<\/em> at any given time.<\/span> (p. 148; his italics)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 15:28-29<\/strong> (RSV) For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: [29] that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols and from blood and from what is strangled and from unchastity. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This has to do with the Jerusalem Council, which was a meeting of apostles and elders in the Church, including Peter, Paul, James, and Barnabas (Acts 15:2, 4, 6, 22-23; 16:4). If the Holy Spirit agreed with it (as He did), it\u2019s infallible, and, I contend, also inspired. And it is that whether it eventually wound up in Scripture or not (just as Jesus\u2019 or [no doubt many of] Paul\u2019s words that didn\u2019t make it to the Bible also were, in and of themselves). When the decree was made, the ones who made it didn\u2019t know that it was to become part of Scripture. It doesn\u2019t follow that it wasn\u2019t what it was, or that it didn\u2019t have the authority that it did.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that the dealings and decree of the council\u00a0<em>are<\/em> in the Bible actually makes my argument stronger, because now we have the assurance that the recorded words can be absolutely trusted as accurate, since they\u2019re in the inspired revelation of Scripture. Therefore, an\u00a0<em>infallible<\/em> decree was made (it couldn\u2019t be otherwise, with the Holy Spirit involved, and Luke couldn\u2019t have falsely recorded this, in his inspired words) by an official council of the Church, with its greatest leaders of the time, and it was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholic365.com\/article\/32221\/the-jerusalem-council-binding-universal-decisions.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">promulgated throughout Asia Minor (Turkey)<\/a> as binding by the Apostle Paul (Acts 16:4). This state of affairs utterly contradicts<em>\u00a0sola Scriptura<\/em>, since that false doctrine claims that\u00a0<em>there can be no such<strong>\u00a0thing<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0as an infallible Church council and that only the Bible is an infallible authority.<\/p>\n<p>If all<em>\u00a0that<\/em>\u00a0doesn\u2019t demonstrate infallibility and an infallible Church, I don\u2019t know what conceivable thing does. It couldn\u2019t be more clear than it is. And it couldn\u2019t be more contradictory to\u00a0<em>sola Scriptura<\/em> than it is. The second biblical argument in this regard is equally decisive and unanswerable:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Timothy 3:15<\/strong>\u00a0. . .\u00a0the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Remember, this is inspired Scripture, and it has a great significance, since it is a description of an essential characteristic of the Church by the great Apostle Paul. He was making a general statement about the nature of the Church and proclaiming that the Church is central in the matter of ascertaining and determining truth in theological and spiritual matters.<\/p>\n<p>Pillars and foundations support things and prevent them from collapsing. To be a \u201cbulwark\u201d of the truth, means to be a \u201csafety net\u201d against truth turning into falsity. If the Church could err, it could not be what Scripture says it is. God\u2019s truth would be the house built on a foundation of sand in Jesus\u2019 parable. For this passage of Scripture to be true, the Church could not err \u2014 it must be infallible. A similar passage may cast further light on 1 Timothy 3:15:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Ephesians 2:19-21<\/strong>\u00a0. . . you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [20] built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, [21] in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>1 Timothy 3:15 defines \u201chousehold of God\u201d as \u201cthe church of the living God.\u201d Therefore, we know that Ephesians 2:19-21 is also referring to the Church, even though that word is not present. Here the Church\u2019s own \u201cfoundation\u201d is \u201cthe apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone.\u201d The foundation of the Church itself is Jesus and apostles and prophets.<\/p>\n<p>Prophets spoke \u201cin the name of the Lord\u201d (1 Chron 21:19; 2 Chron 33:18; Jer 26:9), and commonly introduced their utterances with \u201cthus says the Lord\u201d (Is 10:24; Jer 4:3; 26:4; Ezek 13:8; Amos 3:11-12; and many more). They spoke the \u201cword of the Lord\u201d (Is 1:10; 38:4; Jer 1:2; 13:3, 8; 14:1; Ezek 13:1-2; Hos 1:1; Joel 1:1; Jon 1:1; Mic 1:1, et cetera). These communications cannot contain any untruths insofar as they truly originate from God, with the prophet serving as a spokesman or intermediary of God (Jer 2:2; 26:8; Ezek 11:5; Zech 1:6; and many more). Likewise, apostles proclaimed truth unmixed with error (1 Cor 2:7-13; 1 Tim 2:7; 2 Tim 1:11-14; 2 Pet 1:12-21).<\/p>\n<p>Does this foundation have any faults or cracks? Since Jesus is the cornerstone, he can hardly be a faulty foundation. Neither can the apostles or prophets err when teaching the inspired gospel message or proclaiming God\u2019s word. In the way that apostles and prophets are infallible, so is the Church set up by our Lord Jesus Christ. We ourselves (all Christians) are incorporated into the Church (following the metaphor), on top of the foundation.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Peter 2:4-9<\/strong>\u00a0Come to him, to that living stone, rejected by men but in God\u2019s sight chosen and precious; [5] and like living stones be yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. [6] For it stands in scripture: \u201cBehold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and he who believes in him will not be put to shame.\u201d [7] To you therefore who believe, he is precious, but for those who do not believe, \u201cThe very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner,\u201d [8] and \u201cA stone that will make men stumble, a rock that will make them fall\u201d; for they stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do. [9] But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God\u2019s own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. (cf. Isa 28:16)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Jesus is without fault or untruth, and he is the cornerstone of the Church. The Church is also more than once even\u00a0<em>identified with Jesus himself<\/em>, by being called his \u201cBody\u201d (Acts 9:5 cf. with 22:4 and 26:11; 1 Cor 12:27; Eph 1:22-23; 4:12; 5:23, 30; Col 1:24). That the Church is so intimately connected with Jesus, who is infallible, is itself a strong argument that the Church is also infallible and without error.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, the Church is built on the foundation of Jesus (perfect in all knowledge), and the prophets and apostles (who spoke infallible truth, often recorded in inspired, infallible Scripture). Moreover, it is the very \u201cBody of Christ.\u201d It stands to reason that the Church herself is infallible, by the same token. In the Bible, nowhere is truth presented as anything less than\u00a0<em>pure<\/em>\u00a0truth, unmixed with error. That was certainly how Paul conceived his own \u201ctradition\u201d that he received and passed down.<\/p>\n<p>Knowing what truth is, how can its own foundation or pillar be something\u00a0<em>less<\/em>\u00a0than total truth (since truth itself contains no falsehoods, untruths, lies, or errors)? It cannot. It is impossible. It is a straightforward matter of logic and plain observation. A stream cannot rise above its source. What is built upon a foundation cannot be\u00a0<em>greater<\/em>\u00a0than the foundation. If it were, the whole structure would collapse.<\/p>\n<p>If an elephant stood on the shoulders of a man as its foundation, that foundation would collapse. The base of a skyscraper has to hold the weight above it. The foundations of a suspension bridge over a river have to be strong enough to support that bridge.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, we must conclude that if the Church is the\u00a0<em>foundation\u00a0<\/em>of truth, the Church\u00a0<em>must<\/em>\u00a0be\u00a0<em>infallible<\/em>, since truth is infallible, and the foundation cannot be lesser\u00a0than that which is built upon it. And since\u00a0there is another infallible authority<em>\u00a0<\/em>apart from Scripture,\u00a0<em>sola scriptura<\/em>\u00a0must be false.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Roman argument, that if God have given a revelation at all to men, He must also have provided an authority on earth which shall infallibly interpret its meaning so as to avoid all error, is one of those examples of man\u2019s attempting to dictate what God<em> ought to do<\/em>; not an account of what God <em>has done. <\/em><\/span>(p. 149)<\/p>\n<p>Nonsense. God the Holy Spirit <em>did<\/em> do this by ensuring that the results of the Jerusalem Council were infallible. It\u2019s right in Scripture. We know it happened because infallible, inerrant, inspired revelation <em>told<\/em> us so. First God communicated with St. Peter in a dream, about clean foods and the Gentiles, then it was institutionally and historically enshrined in the decrees of the council of apostles and elders, with the express consent of God the Holy Spirit. That\u2019s authority! After the apostles died out (basically the end of the first century), <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/darmstrong\/apostolic-succession-as-seen-in-the-jerusalem-council\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the elders continued the same process<\/a> in ecumenical councils.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Littledale himself noted that <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cWhat <em>is<\/em> promised is, that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth (St. John xvi. 13)\u201d<\/span> (p. 148). Indeed, this is the case, and Acts 15:28 and the Jerusalem Council provide a <em>literal, concrete <strong>example<\/strong> of that very thing happening<\/em>: the Holy Spirit guiding an authoritative council of the early Church, that issued binding decrees (via St. Paul and Barnabas and others) to Christians far and wide. And God had directly guided Peter in a related vision (Acts 10:9-20) too. Sound <em>familiar<\/em>? Only one Church keeps doing <em>that<\/em> today, as it always has, following this inspired biblical model.<\/p>\n<p>God also inspired Paul to proclaim that the Church was \u201cthe pillar and bulwark of the truth.\u201d This is the same thing as what Dr. Littledale calls \u201c<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">an authority on earth which shall infallibly interpret.\u201d <span style=\"color: #000000;\">It does exist, and the Bible says so. Would that Dr. Littledale had read his Bible more closely, instead of picking and choosing what he likes and ignoring or discarding or irresponsibly misinterpreting what doesn\u2019t conform to the many false man-made traditions of Protestantism. We\u2019re not left as orphans (\u201cI will not leave you desolate; I will come to you\u201d: Jn 14:18).<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">One very plain disproof of the Roman <em>a priori<\/em> argument is, that God gave a revelation to the Jews fifteen hundred years before Christ, but no one pretends that they ever had an infallible living voice to keep them from all error regarding the law of Moses.<\/span> (p. 150)<\/p>\n<p>Actually they <em>did<\/em> have infallible guides \u2014 even arguably <em>inspired<\/em> ones (many of their words having been recorded in Holy Scripture) \u2014 :<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/10\/inspired-infallible-prophets-analogy-to-infallible-popes.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> the prophets<\/a>. A biblical argument can be made, as well, for the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/01\/dialogue-w-lutheran-on-ecclesiology-ot-indefectibility-analogies.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">indefectibility of the Old Testament proto-church<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>*<br>\n***<br>\n*<br>\n<strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>: Perhaps some of my 4,600+ free online articles (the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site) or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2009\/06\/dave-armstrongs-catholic-apologetics-bookstore-49-books-paperback-e-pub-mobi-nook-book-amazon-kindle-itunes-pdf-rock-bottom-regular-prices-67-savings-for-e-books-2.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">fifty-five books<\/a> have helped you (by God\u2019s grace) to decide to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/11\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">become Catholic<\/a> or to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/feedback-comments-on-my-writing-from-2.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">return to the Church<\/a>, or better understand some doctrines and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/02\/the-biblical-basis-of-apologetics-defense-of-christianity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><em>why<\/em> we believe them<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Or you may believe my work is worthy to support for the purpose of apologetics and evangelism in general. 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See book info, and purchase options at the link to the left.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: Anglican polemicist Richard Frederick Littledale (1833-1890) made a dubious claim about no [?] biblical data for an infallible Church. 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