{"id":86988,"date":"2024-10-17T10:28:42","date_gmt":"2024-10-17T14:28:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=86988"},"modified":"2024-10-17T10:28:42","modified_gmt":"2024-10-17T14:28:42","slug":"reply-to-calvins-antidote-to-trent-justification-pt-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2024\/10\/reply-to-calvins-antidote-to-trent-justification-pt-2.html","title":{"rendered":"Reply to Calvin\u2019s Antidote to Trent (Justification), Pt. 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_86967\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-86967\" style=\"width: 333px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2024\/10\/Calvin17.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-86967 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2024\/10\/Calvin17.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"333\" height=\"500\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-86967\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo credit:\u00a0Historical mixed media figure of John Calvin produced by artist\/historian George S. Stuart and photographed by Peter d\u2019Aprix: from the\u00a0George S. Stuart Gallery of Historical Figures archive\u00a0[Wikimedia Commons\u00a0\/\u00a0Creative CommonsAttribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported\u00a0license]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p style=\"text-align: center;\">This is a reply to John Calvin\u2019s\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.monergism.com\/thethreshold\/sdg\/calvin_trentantidote.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Acts of the Council of Trent with the Antidote<\/em><\/a>\u00a0(Nov. 1547), specifically his comments on the\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.papalencyclicals.net\/councils\/trent\/sixth-session.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Sixth Session<\/a>\u00a0of the Council of Trent (Jan. 1547), regarding justification. The online treatise is taken from\u00a0<em>Selected Works of John Calvin: Tracts and Letters<\/em>, Vol. 3:\u00a0<em>Tracts, Part 3<\/em>; edited and translated by Henry Beveridge (Edinburgh: Calvin Translation Society, 1851). I have a hardcover copy of this volume in my own library: a reprint from Baker Book House (Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1983).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">John Calvin\u2019s words will be in<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u00a0blue<\/span>; citations from Trent in\u00a0<span style=\"color: #008000;\">green<\/span>. I use RSV for biblical citations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">See <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2024\/10\/reply-to-calvins-antidote-to-trent-on-justification.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Part One<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">It was indeed an absurd dream, but they are still more grossly absurd when they give it as their opinion, that none of all the things which precede Justification, whether faith or works, merit it. What works antecedent to Justification are they here imagining? What kind of order is this in which the fruit is antecedent in time to the root? In one word, that pious readers may understand how great progress has been made in securing purity of doctrine, the monks dunned into the ears of the reverend Fathers, whose part was to nod assent, this old song, that good works which precede justification are not meritorious of eternal salvation, but preparatory only. If any works precede faith, they should also be taken into account. But there is no merit, because there are no works; for if men inquire into their works, they will find only evil works.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Posterity will scarcely believe that the Papacy had fallen into such a stupor as to imagine the possibility of any work antecedent to justification, even though they denied it to be meritorious of so great a blessing! For what can come from man until he is born again by the Spirit of God?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Such works as repentance, any good thing that they do, by prevenient grace, the sort of general theistic belief that Paul refers to in Romans 1:20: \u201cEver since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made.\u201d Or, \u201cthe law written upon their hearts\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Romans 2:13-16<\/strong> For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. [14] When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. [15] They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them [16] on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Or the virtuous pagan beliefs that Paul built upon in Athens, to preach the gospel:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 17:22-23, 27-28<\/strong> . . . \u201cMen of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious.\u00a0[23] For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, \u2018To an unknown god.\u2019 What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. . . . [27] . . . he is not far from each one of us, [28] for `In him we live and move and have our being\u2019; as even some of your poets have said, `For we are indeed his offspring.\u2019<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Or the faith of the Roman centurion who came to Jesus, at whom Jesus \u201cmarveled\u201d and said, \u201cI tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith\u201d (Lk 7:9). Calvin believes in total depravity; i.e., that human beings can do no good whatsoever before they are regenerated, and that even ostensibly good actions are inevitably tainted by evil in some fashion. But the anonymous psalmist in 112:5-6 refers to the \u201crighteous\u201d (Heb.\u00a0<em>tob<\/em>), as does the book of Proverbs repeatedly: using the words \u201crighteous\u201d or \u201cgood\u201d (11:23; 12:2; 13:22; 14:14, 19), using the same word,\u00a0<em>tob<\/em>, which appears in Psalm 14:2-3. References to righteous men are innumerable (e.g., Job 17:9; 22:19; Ps 5:12; 32:11; 34:15; 37:16, 32; Mt 9:13; 13:17; 25:37, 46; Rom 5:19; Heb 11:4; Jas 5:16; 1 Pet 3:12; 4:18, etc.). See my articles:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/03\/total-depravity-none-righteous-reply-james-white.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Total Depravity: Reply to James White: Calvinism and Romans 3:10-11 (\u201cNone is Righteous . . . No One Seeks For God\u201d)\u00a0<\/a>[4-15-07]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/09\/calvinist-total-depravity-does-romans-1-apply-to-all-men.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Calvinist Total Depravity: Does Romans 1 Apply to All Men?<\/a>\u00a0[4-10-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/01\/bible-vs-the-reformed-doctrine-of-total-depravity.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bible vs. the Reformed Doctrine of Total Depravity<\/a>\u00a0[2010]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/12\/total-depravity-evil-non-elect-vs-john-calvin.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Total Depravity &amp; the Evil of the Non-Elect<\/a>\u00a0(vs. John Calvin) [10-12-12]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2014\/01\/does-st-augustine-agree-with-john-calvin-and-calvinists-regarding-total-depravity-reply-to-detractors.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">St. Augustine, Calvin, &amp; Calvinists Regarding Total Depravity<\/a>\u00a0[1-7-14]<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Very different is the reasoning of Paul. He exhorts the Ephesians to remember (Ephesians 2) that they were saved by grace, not by themselves nor by their own works.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>We don\u2019t deny that, so it\u2019s a moot point or a <em>non sequitur<\/em>.<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/div>\n<div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #800080;\"><strong>\u201cPlease Hit \u2018Subscribe\u2019\u201d!<\/strong>\u00a0<\/span>If you have received benefit from this or any of my other 4,800+ articles, please follow my blog by signing up (with your email address) on the sidebar to the right (you may have to scroll down a bit), above where there is an icon bar, \u201cSign Me Up!\u201d: to receive notice when I post a new blog article. 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Thanks so much and happy reading!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Scripture, . . . opposes faith to works . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Really?:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 7:21<\/strong> Not every one who says to me, \u2018Lord, Lord,\u2019 shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Matthew 19:16-17, 20-21<\/strong>\u00a0And behold, one came up to him, saying, \u201cTeacher,\u00a0what good deed must I do, to have eternal life?\u201d\u00a0[17] And he said to him, \u201c. . .\u00a0If you would enter life, keep the commandments.\u201d . . . [20] The young man said to him, \u201cAll these I have observed; what do I still lack?\u201d [21] Jesus said to him, \u201cIf you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Matthew 19:29<\/strong>\u00a0And every one who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands, for my name\u2019s sake, will receive a hundredfold, and inherit eternal life. (cf. Mk 10:29-30)<\/p>\n<p><b>Luke 3:9<\/b>\u00a0(+ Mt 3:10; 7:19) . . . every tree therefore that\u00a0does not bear good fruit\u00a0is cut down and\u00a0thrown into the fire.<\/p>\n<p><strong>John 5:28-29<\/strong>\u00a0. . . all who are in the tombs will hear his voice [29] and come forth,\u00a0those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 1:5, 17<\/strong>\u00a0through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the obedience of faith for the sake of his name among all the nations, . . . [17] For in it the righteousness of God is revealed through faith for faith; as it is written, \u201cHe who through faith is righteous shall live.\u201d (cf. Acts 6:7)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 2:13<\/strong>\u00a0For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Romans 16:26<\/strong> . . . the obedience of faith<\/p>\n<p><strong>Galatians 5:6<\/strong> . . . faith working through love.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Thessalonians 1:3<\/strong> . . . your work of faith . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>2 Thessalonians 1:11<\/strong> . . . work of faith by his power,<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hebrews 11:8<\/strong> By faith Abraham obeyed . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>James 2:14, 17, 20-22, 24, 26<\/strong> What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him? . . . [17] So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. . . . [20] . . . faith apart from works is barren . . . [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he offered his son Isaac upon the altar? [22] You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by works, . . . [24] You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. . . . [26] . . . faith apart from works is dead.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In the tenth chapter, they inveigh against what they call The Vain Confidence of Heretics. This consists, according to their definition, in our holding it as certain that our sins are forgiven, and resting in this certainty. But if such certainty makes heretics, where will be the happiness which David extols? (Psalm 32) Nay, where will be the peace of which Paul discourses in the fifth chapter to the Romans, if we rest in anything but the good-will of God?<\/span><\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x11i5rnm xat24cr x1mh8g0r x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>We rest in it, in an outlook of moral assurance of salvation and a thorough<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2018\/03\/examination-conscience-biblical-pauline-evidence.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"> self-examination of conscience<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/bible-on-the-moral-assurance-of-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bible on the Moral Assurance of Salvation<\/a><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/bible-on-the-moral-assurance-of-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00a0(Persevering in Faith, with Hope)\u00a0<\/a>[10-21-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2024\/08\/reply-to-melanchthon-justification-1.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Reply to Melanchthon: Justification #1 (Moral Assurance of Salvation \/ Examination of Conscience \/ Bible On Apostasy \/ Initial Justification &amp; Faith Alone)<\/a>\u00a0[8-29-24]<\/p>\n<p>But we\u2019re not absolutely sure of our eternal salvation. St. Paul certainly wasn\u2019t. See:<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/11\/assurance-instant-salvation-apostasy-falling-away.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Assurance of Instant Salvation? \/ Apostasy \/ Falling Away<\/a>\u00a0(Bible passages) [c. 2000]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/09\/certainty-of-eternal-life-1-jn-513-jn-524.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cCertainty\u201d of Eternal Life? (1 Jn 5:13 &amp; Jn 5:24)<\/a>\u00a0[5-8-02]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/03\/st-paul-on-falling-away-from-grace-and-salvation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">St. Paul on Falling Away from Grace and Salvation<\/a>\u00a0[2004]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/01\/absolute-assurance-of-salvation-debunking-prooftexts.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Absolute Assurance of Salvation?: Debunking \u201cProoftexts\u201d<\/a>\u00a0[Oct. 2010]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/once-saved-always-saved-is-it-biblical-antinomian.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u201cOnce Saved, Always Saved\u201d: Is it Biblical? Antinomian?<\/a>\u00a0[8-18-15]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/07\/reply-to-protestant-challenges-re-eternal-security.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Reply to Protestant Challenges Re Eternal Security<\/a>\u00a0(vs. Jason Engwer)\u00a0[7-26-20]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2020\/08\/defense-of-bible-passages-vs-eternal-security-faith-alone.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Defense of Bible Passages vs. Eternal Security &amp; Faith Alone<\/a>\u00a0(vs. Jason Engwer) [8-12-20]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2023\/09\/reply-to-jason-engwer-re-eternal-security.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Reply to Jason Engwer Re Eternal Security<\/a> [9-26-23]<\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Where, then, is that boldness of which Paul elsewhere speaks, (Ephesians 3:12,) that access with confidence to the Father through faith in Christ? . . . Nay, they overthrow all true prayer to God, when they keep pious minds suspended by fear which alone shuts the door of access against us. \u201cHe who doubts,\u201d says James, (James 1:6) \u201cis like a wave of the sea driven by the wind.\u201d Let not such think that they shall obtain anything of the Lord. \u201cLet him who would pray effectually not doubt.\u201d Attend to the antithesis between faith and doubt, plainly intimating that faith is destroyed as soon as certainty is taken away.<\/span><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>We<em> do<\/em> have that access, but it\u2019s not the same as absolute assurance of eschatological salvation. St. Paul also warned:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><strong class=\"calibre14\">1 Corinthians 9:27 <\/strong>I pommel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.<\/p>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><b class=\"calibre14\">1 Corinthians 10:12 <\/b>Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.<\/p>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><b class=\"calibre14\">Galatians 5:1 <\/b>For freedom Christ has set us free; stand fast, therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.<\/p>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><b class=\"calibre14\">Galatians 5:4 <\/b>You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace.<\/p>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><b class=\"calibre14\">Philippians 3:8-14 <\/b>Indeed I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as refuse, in order that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own, based on law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith; that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, that if possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead. Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect; but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. Brethren, I do not consider that I have made it my own; but one thing I do, forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.<\/p>\n<p class=\"calibre4\"><b class=\"calibre14\">1 Timothy 4:1 <\/b>Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">But that the whole of their theology may be more manifest to my readers, let them weigh the words which follow under the same head. It ought not to be asserted, they say, that those who have been truly justified ought to entertain an unhesitating doubt that they are justified.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not our teaching, which is thoroughly based on Paul\u2019s. We simply deny absolute certainty of the future, including that of our attainment of heaven. This doesn\u2019t equate to constant, anxious doubt, which is merely Calvin\u2019s \u201ceither\/or\u201d self-delusion. It\u2019s simply the acknowledgment of the obvious reality that we don\u2019t know the future, and that we can possibly fall away from faith. Calvin, of course, denies that it\u2019s possible to fall away, which is equally unbiblical, per the above articles. So each unbiblical error of his is compounded upon others, leading him further and further away from the Bible itself: all the while making the same accusation towards<em> us<\/em>, of the very thing he is doing..<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I am ashamed to debate the matter, as if it were doubtful, with men who call themselves Christians. The doctrine of Scripture is clear. \u201cWe know,\u201d says John, (1 John 4:6,) \u201cthat we are the children of God.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Indeed, but <em>how<\/em> does John say that we know this?:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 John 2:3-5<\/strong>\u00a0And by this we may be sure that we know him, if we keep his commandments. [4] He who says \u201cI know him\u201d but disobeys his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him; [5] but whoever keeps his word, in him truly love for God is perfected. By this we may be sure that we are in him:<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 John 3:24<\/strong>\u00a0All who keep his commandments abide in him, and he in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit which he has given us.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He doesn\u2019t teach, \u201cwe\u2019re absolutely sure because we have faith!\u201d He wasn\u2019t a Calvinist and would have \u2014 along with Paul and James and Peter \u2014 flunked out of their seminaries. Rather, good works and obeying commandments are how we know, and \u201cknowing\u201d doesn\u2019t mean that it is for<em> all time, into eternity<\/em>. We can know in the present, because we\u2019re <em>in<\/em> the present and there is no required speculation about what is to come. <em>That\u2019<\/em>s Paul\u2019s and John\u2019s teaching. That\u2019s why Paul refers to \u201clest after preaching to others I myself should be <em>disqualified<\/em>\u201d (1 Cor 9:27) and \u201clet anyone who thinks that he stands <em>take heed<\/em> lest he <em>fall<\/em>\u201d (1 Cor 10:12) and \u201cif <em>possible<\/em> I may attain the resurrection from the dead. <em>Not that I have already obtained this<\/em> or am already perfect; but I press on to <em>make<\/em> it my own. Brethren,<em> I do not consider that I have made it my own<\/em> . . . \u201d (Phil 3:11-13).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">And, indeed, they are ignorant of the whole nature of faith who mingle doubt with it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Again; it\u2019s not doubt per se; rather, it\u2019s a common sense acknowledgment that we don\u2019t know the future. Jesus said, \u201che who endures to the end will be saved\u201d (Mt 10:22). We don\u2019t know that we\u2019ll do that. But we have a strong faith that God\u2019s enabling power will give us the strength and perseverance to do that, provided we are willing the whole way and don\u2019t \u201cfall away\u201d (Gal 5:4; cf. Mt 13:6-7: parable of the sower). Paul condemns doubt (Rom 14:23), but he still warns about a possible falling away, if one isn\u2019t vigilant and doesn\u2019t\u00a0 \u201cpress on\u201d like he does, or as James describes: \u201che who . . . perseveres, being no hearer that forgets but a doer that acts, he shall be blessed in his doing\u201d (Jas 1:25).<\/p>\n<p>*<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"2 minutes, 33 seconds eating which is a verb and drinking which is a verb and Jesus tells us ad\">***<br>\n*<\/div>\n<div tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"2 minutes, 33 seconds eating which is a verb and drinking which is a verb and Jesus tells us ad\"><strong><em>Practical Matters<\/em><\/strong>:\u00a0 I run the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site:\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/07\/top-personal-christian-blogs-ranked-by-ai-composite-score\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">rated #1<\/a>\u00a0for Christian sites by leading AI tool, ChatGPT \u2014 endorsed by popular Protestant blogger Adrian Warnock. Perhaps some of my 4,800+ free online articles or\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link 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I\u2019m always in need of more funds: especially\u00a0<em>monthly<\/em>\u00a0support. \u201cThe laborer is worthy of his wages\u201d (1 Tim 5:18, NKJV). 1 December 2021 was my 20th anniversary as a\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/07\/my-literary-resume.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">full-time Catholic apologist<\/a>, and February 2022 marked the 25th anniversary of my blog.<\/div>\n<div tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"2 minutes, 33 seconds eating which is a verb and drinking which is a verb and Jesus tells us ad\">*<\/div>\n<div tabindex=\"0\" role=\"button\" aria-label=\"2 minutes, 33 seconds eating which is a verb and drinking which is a verb and Jesus tells us ad\"><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/us\/webapps\/mpp\/sem\/account-selection-signup\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">PayPal donations<\/a>\u00a0are the easiest: just send to my email address: apologistdave@gmail.com. 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Stuart and photographed by Peter d\u2019Aprix: from the<\/span>\u00a0<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.galleryhistoricalfigures.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">George S. Stuart Gallery of Historical Figures archive<\/a>\u00a0[<a class=\"decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Historical_mixed_media_figure_of_John_Calvin_by_George_S._Stuart.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>\u00a0\/\u00a0<a class=\"extiw decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"w:en:Creative Commons\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/en:Creative_Commons\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Creative Commons<\/a><a class=\"external text decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/3.0\/deed.en\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported<\/a>\u00a0license]<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: Part II of my critical examination of John Calvin\u2019s 1547 treatise, \u201cActs of the Council of Trent with the Antidote\u201d: regarding the issue of justification by faith, and salvation.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a reply to John Calvin\u2019s\u00a0Acts of the Council of Trent with the Antidote\u00a0(Nov. 1547), specifically his comments on the\u00a0Sixth Session\u00a0of the Council of Trent (Jan. 1547), regarding justification. The online treatise is taken from\u00a0Selected Works of John Calvin: Tracts and Letters, Vol. 3:\u00a0Tracts, Part 3; edited and translated by Henry Beveridge (Edinburgh: Calvin [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":86967,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[37,50],"tags":[2101,1213,2342,2341,2343,19374],"class_list":["post-86988","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-john-calvin","category-salvation-justification","tag-calvin-justification","tag-faith-works","tag-faith-alone","tag-salvation","tag-sola-fide","tag-trent-on-justification"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reply to Calvin\u2019s Antidote to Trent (Justification), Pt. 2<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Part II of my critical 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Christianity since 1981, and Catholicism in particular since 1991 (full-time since December 2001). Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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