{"id":89198,"date":"2025-01-29T11:02:20","date_gmt":"2025-01-29T15:02:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=89198"},"modified":"2025-01-29T20:30:30","modified_gmt":"2025-01-30T00:30:30","slug":"reply-to-anglican-e-b-pusey-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/01\/reply-to-anglican-e-b-pusey-4.html","title":{"rendered":"Reply to Anglican E. B. Pusey #4"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Infallible Ecumenical Councils; Nature of Saints\u2019 Intercession\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_89204\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-89204\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/01\/Newman1866-2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-89204 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/01\/Newman1866-2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"657\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-89204\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo credit:\u00a0photograph of St. John Henry Cardinal Newman (1801-1890) from 1866, four years before E. B. Pusey\u2019s second long letter to him. [public domain]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Edward_Bouverie_Pusey\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Edward Bouverie (E. B.) Pusey<\/a>\u00a0(1800-1882) was an English Anglican cleric, professor of Hebrew at Oxford University for more than fifty years, and\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu\/webbin\/book\/lookupname?key=Pusey%2C%20E%2E%20B%2E%20%28Edward%20Bouverie%29%2C%201800-1882\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">author of many books<\/a>. He was a leading figure in the\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" title=\"Oxford Movement\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oxford_Movement\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Oxford Movement<\/a>, along with\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Henry_Newman\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">St. John Henry Cardinal Newman<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/John_Keble\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Keble<\/a>, an expert on patristics, and was involved in many theological and academic controversies. Pusey helped revive the doctrine of the Real Presence in the Church of England, and because of several other affinities with Catholic theology and tradition, he and his followers (derisively called \u201cPuseyites\u201d) were mocked by over-anxious\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/trove.nla.gov.au\/newspaper\/article\/8773212\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">adversaries in 1853<\/a>\u00a0as \u201chalf papist and half protestant\u201d. But, unlike Newman and like Keble, he never left Anglicanism.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">I continue my replies to Pusey by examining a few portions of his <em>Eirenicon, Pt. III<\/em>, entitled, <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/a6052907c200puseuoft\/page\/n7\/mode\/2up\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Is healthful reunion impossible?: a second letter to the Very Rev. J.H. Newman, D. D.<\/em><\/a> (London: Rivingtons, 1870). He described Newman in the beginning of his second volume of three, as his <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cdearest friend\u201d<\/span> and a person <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cwhom I still admire as well as love\u201d<\/span> and he fondly recalled the <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201csunny memories\u201d<\/span> of their time together in the Oxford Movement. Pusey\u2019s words will be in <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>. All of my replies to Pusey will be collected under the \u201cAnglicanism\u201d section of my <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/calvinism-and-general-protestantism.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Calvinism and General Protestantism<\/a>\u00a0web page, under his name. I use RSV for Bible citations.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In principle I agree, that upon any point which a General Council, received by the whole Church, should pronounce to be \u201cde fide,\u201d private judgment is at an end. Private judgment has no place there. It is for the Church to decide upon the evidence, whether from Holy Scripture or from unbroken tradition from the first. She, not individuals, is the judge of that evidence ; for she, not individuals apart from her, has our Lord\u2019s promises. Whatever she should decide, I should not only accept, but it has long been my habit of mind, \u201cimplicite\u201d to accept it beforehand. I mean that, while of course I believe all which I know that the Church has defined, I believe, with my inmost will, whatever she holds, whether I know it or no. . . . if the whole Church, including the Greek and Anglican Communions, were to define these or any other points, to be \u201cde fide,\u201d I should hold all further inquiry as to evidence to be at an end. In whatever way they should rule any question, however contrary to my previous impressions, I should submit to it, and hold it, as being, by such universal consent of the whole Church, proved to be part of the Apostles\u2019 faith. I have ever submitted my credenda to a power beyond myself. We have differed, then, and must differ, upon a point of fact\u2014 what are the component parts of that Church, whose reception of any doctrine saves us from all further inquiry, and rules that doctrine for us; not as to the principle, whether any such power exists. (pp. 3-4)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">In regard to the office of the Church, and the consequent duties of individuals towards her in the abstract, the Council of Trent and the Church of England are, I am persuaded, agreed. Both Churches hold and must hold, what Holy Scripture teaches, that the Church is \u201cthe pillar and ground of the truth;\u201d both agree that she has the office to transmit, guard, preach, propagate that God-given truth ; both must hold, that what has once been infallibly fixed cannot receive any additional certainty (since nothing can add to infallibility), and so, that with regard to all which has been fixed by (Ecumenical Councils, the office of the Church is only to transmit and teach it. Later (Ecumenical Councils did not add authority to the earlier, but entered on their office by the confession of what had been laid down by those before them. (pp. 21-22)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The Church, not individuals, must be the judge, whether what she proposes as \u201d of faith\u201d does rest on that tradition. (p. 23)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This conception of sublime Christian authority is consistent with the Catholic rule of faith, and most emphatically not with <em>sola Scriptura<\/em>, which denies the infallibility of ecumenical councils. Catholics would disagree, however, with the inclusion of official Anglicanism as a full participant in such a council. There was enough disagreement to preclude such a council in 1870, and there is far more <em>now<\/em>, as Anglicanism continues to reject apostolic teaching (especially in the area of morals) in several serious ways.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">On the crucial question of \u201d the Invocation of saints,\u201d the Lutheran Abbot of Lokkum <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gerhard_Wolter_Molanus\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gerhard Wolter Molanus<\/a>: 1633-1722]<\/span> asked . . . for a recognition of the principle, which many of your writers have laid down, that, even when things are asked directly of the saints, nothing more is intended than by the simple \u201cOra pro nobis\u201d<\/span> [\u201cpray for us\u201d]<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">. He wished it to be stated, that whatever be the language employed, they are not asked as though it were in their own power to grant any\u00a0thing, but only to pray our Lord with us, that He would grant it. The Lutheran\u2019s proposition was \u2014<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">If the Roman Catholics say publicly that they have no other trust toward the saints, than that which they feel towards the living, whose intercessions they implore; that they understand all and each of the prayers directed to them, in what words or forms soever conceived, no otherwise than intercessionally, \u2014 as when they say \u2018Sancta Maria, libera me in hora mortis\u2019 the meaning is, \u2018Holy Mary, intercede for me with thy Son, that He free me in the hour of death,\u2019 \u2014 the peril alleged by Protestants as to the Invocation of Saints will cease. If, moreover, the Romans from time to time teach their people that the Invocation of Saints is not simply enjoined, but by the force of the Council of Trent is placed at every one\u2019s choice, whether he would direct his prayers to the saint or to God Himself; that the saints ought not to be invoked rashly and needlessly on every occasion, . . . (pp. 15-16)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This was always the case in Catholic theology \u2014 the claim otherwise derived from a miscomprehension of non-literal sorts of language in Catholic descriptions and pious expression, as I have dealt with in previous installments of this series. We have already made this clear <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">\u201cpublicly\u201d<\/span> in the Council of Trent, in its last (25th) session in December 1563, in its Decree, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.papalencyclicals.net\/councils\/trent\/twenty-fifth-session.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>On the Invocation, Veneration, and Relics, of Saints, and On Sacred Images<\/em><\/a>, where it is stated that \u201cthe saints, who reign together with Christ, offer up their own prayers to God for men\u201d and that \u201cit is good and useful suppliantly to invoke them, and to have recourse to their prayers, aid, (and)<em> help for obtaining benefits<strong> from God<\/strong><\/em>, through His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who is our alone Redeemer and Saviour.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>None of this remotely teaches or even implies the saints have power in and of themselves to answer prayers. The whole point is that their prayers have more power and efficacy, due to their perfect holiness (Jas 5:16). One wonders, then, \u201cwhere\u2019s the beef?\u201d Why was Molanus asking a question that had plainly been addressed at Trent? What is there not to understand? Pope Pius IV\u2019s Tridentine Profession of Faith of 13 November 1564 reiterates that the saints in heaven \u201coffer prayers<em><strong> to<\/strong> <strong>God<\/strong><\/em> for us\u201d (Denzinger #1867; p. 436 in the 2012 43rd edition).<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Principles so enunciated would remove most of the objections which lie so deep in the English mind (such, I mean, as are not members of the Roman Church, whether members of the English Church or Dissenters), against the invocation. This would remove what has been the special crux to many of us. (pp. 19-20)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Again, I don\u2019t see how Trent and the Tridentine Profession of Faith were <em>not<\/em> crystal clear on this point. That\u2019s the magisterium and the \u201cpresupposition\u201d for how any writings of Catholic individuals on the topic are to be understood. If we supposedly taught otherwise, then I think Pusey and any other Protestant critic ought to \u2014 and would be able to \u2014 produce statements along those lines from <em>official sources<\/em> like popes and ecumenical councils. Instead, typically, we get endless excepts from Liguori\u2019s <em>Glories of Mary<\/em>, which, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/st-alphonsus-de-liguori-mary-worshiper-idolater.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">as I explained years ago<\/a>, are habitually taken out of context and presented in a half-truth fashion, ignoring other relevant excepts from the same book that fully explain their meaning. It\u2019s like Protestants who do this are sawing off the limb they are sitting on or creating their own difficulties, where in fact there are none.<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>*<br>\n***<br>\n*<\/p>\n<div><em><strong>Practical Matters<\/strong><\/em>:\u00a0 I run the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site:<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/07\/top-personal-christian-blogs-ranked-by-ai-composite-score\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a0rated #1\u00a0for Christian sites<\/a>\u00a0by leading AI tool, ChatGPT \u2014 endorsed by popular Protestant blogger Adrian Warnock. 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Pusey\u00a0(1800-1882) was an English Anglican cleric, professor of Hebrew at Oxford University for more than fifty years, and\u00a0author of many books. He was a leading figure in the\u00a0Oxford Movement, along with\u00a0St. John Henry Cardinal Newman\u00a0and\u00a0John Keble, an expert on patristics, and was involved in [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":89204,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[312,206],"tags":[4726,19613,19616,19604,2336,16630],"class_list":["post-89198","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-calvinism-general-protestantism","category-saints-purgatory-penance","tag-anglican-rule-of-faith","tag-anglican-catholic-dialogue","tag-anglicans-intercession-of-saints","tag-e-b-pusey","tag-john-henry-newman","tag-saints-intercession"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Reply to Anglican E. B. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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