{"id":92741,"date":"2025-07-19T10:25:53","date_gmt":"2025-07-19T14:25:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=92741"},"modified":"2025-07-19T10:25:53","modified_gmt":"2025-07-19T14:25:53","slug":"vs-geisler-on-catholicism-11-seven-sacraments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/07\/vs-geisler-on-catholicism-11-seven-sacraments.html","title":{"rendered":"Vs. Geisler on Catholicism #11: Seven Sacraments"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_92759\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-92759\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/07\/Augustine12.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-92759 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/07\/Augustine12.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"510\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-92759\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>:<em> St Augustine Teaching in Rome<\/em> (1465), by\u00a0Benozzo Gozzoli (c. 1421-1497)\u00a0[public domain \/\u00a0Wikimedia Commons]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Norman_Geisler\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Norman L. Geisler<\/a>\u00a0(1932 \u2013 2019) was an American evangelical Protestant theologian, philosopher, and apologist. He obtained an M.A. in theology from Wheaton College and a Ph.D. in philosophy from Loyola University, and made scholarly contributions to the subjects of classical Christian apologetics, systematic theology, philosophy of religion, Calvinism, Catholicism, biblical inerrancy, Bible difficulties, biblical miracles, the resurrection of Jesus, ethics, and other topics. He wrote or edited more 90 books<sup id=\"cite_ref-3\" class=\"reference\"><\/sup>\u00a0and hundreds of articles.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Dr. Geisler was the Chairman of Philosophy of Religion at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School (1970\u201379) and Professor of Systematic Theology\u00a0at\u00a0Dallas Theological Seminary (1979\u201388) and a key figure in founding the\u00a0Evangelical Philosophical Society. He also co-founded Southern Evangelical Seminary. He was known as an evangelical\u00a0Thomist and considered himself a \u201cmoderate\u00a0Calvinist\u201d. He was\u00a0<em>not<\/em>\u00a0an anti-Catholic (i.e., he didn\u2019t deny that Catholicism was fully a species of Christianity).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">This is one of a series of comprehensive replies to his book,\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/roman-catholics-and-evangelicals-agreements-and-differences-norman-geisler\/page\/n375\/mode\/2up\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Roman Catholics and Evangelicals: Agreements and Differences<\/i><\/a>\u00a0(co-author, Ralph E. MacKenzie, graduate of Bethel Theological Seminary-West; Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Academic, 1995). It\u2019s available online in a public domain version, which has no page numbers, so I will utilize page numbers from my paperback copy, for the sake of full reference. I consider it the best Protestant critique of Catholicism (especially in terms of biblical arguments) that I have ever found, from any time period. The arguments are, for the most part, impressively presented, thought-provoking, respectful, respectable, and worthy of serious consideration (which I\u2019m now giving them).<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">I\u2019ll be concentrating on the eight sections of Part Two: \u201cAreas of Doctrinal Differences\u201d (202 pages). These installments will be listed and linked on my\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2011\/10\/calvinism-and-general-protestantism.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Calvinism &amp; General Protestantism web page<\/a>, in section XVII: \u201cCatholics and Protestants\u201d (second from the end). Dr. Geisler\u2019s and Ralph MacKenzie\u2019s words will be in\u00a0<span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">blue<\/span>. My biblical citations are from RSV.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The purpose of a sacrament is to bestow the grace of God . . . Thus, the sacraments are necessary for salvation. The Council of Trent reminded Catholics that \u201cIf anyone shall say that the sacraments of the New Law are not necessary for salvation, but are superfluous, and that, although all are not necessary individually, without them or without the desire of them through faith alone men obtain from God the grace of justification: let him be anathema.\u201d Protestants, of course, take exception with this. (p. 252)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s absurd to make a broad statement about alleged Protestant antipathy to the sacraments, when I just documented in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/07\/vs-geisler-on-catholicism-10-faith-alone-2.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">installment #10<\/a> that Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Wesley, Anglicanism, Churches of Christ, and Disciples of Christ all tied baptism to regeneration and salvation, and\u00a0 (minus the last two) also connected the Eucharist directly to salvation. We\u2019re talking about the very founder of Protestantism (and Lutheranism that stemmed from him), the most historically influential Protestant (Calvin), and the large Anglican \/ Methodist sector that all agree with us regarding two major sacraments.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">The argument for seven sacraments scarcely needs critique; the lack of scriptural and historical support speaks for itself. There is no real basis in the Bible, the Fathers, or church councils for the enumeration of seven. (p. 258)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>If we are talking about individual Church fathers acknowledging all seven, yes, that is difficult to find, and the complete idea of seven rites described as \u201csacraments\u201d was slow to develop (along with many other doctrines). But I have provided evidence that, for example, St. Augustine (354-430), the greatest Church father, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/darmstrong\/did-st.-augustine-accept-all-seven-sacraments\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">arguably discussed and accepted all seven<\/a>. And <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchfathers.org\/marriage-and-divorce\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">much patristic support<\/a> can be found for each of the seven sacraments considered individually: for the beliefs entailed, whether or not each person specifically calls each a \u201csacrament.\u201d Joe Gallegos and several others haves collected much data concerning this:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/apologetics-topics\/baptism\/the-church-fathers-on-baptismal-regeneration-by-bryan-cross\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers on Baptismal Regeneration<\/a> (by Bryan Cross)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-born-again-by-joe-gallegos\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Born Again<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-transubstantiaton-by-joe-gallegos\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Transubstantiation<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-confession-by-joe-gallegos\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Confession<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-holy-matrimony-by-joe-gallegos\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Holy Matrimony<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-holy-orders-by-joe-gallegos\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Holy Orders<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-confirmation-by-joe-gallegos\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Confirmation<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.catholicfidelity.com\/the-church-fathers-and-annointing-of-the-sick-by-joe-gallegos\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Church Fathers and Anointing of the Sick<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I have also, myself, defended each of the seven sacraments from Scripture alone:<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/14-bible-verses-that-show-we-re-saved-through-baptism\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">14 Bible Verses That Show We\u2019re Saved Through Baptism<\/a>\u00a0[<em>National Catholic Register<\/em>, 11-30-21]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/eucharist-how-can-jesus-be-present-on-heaven-and-earth\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">20 Ways the Bible Affirms the Real Presence of Christ<\/a>\u00a0[<em>National Catholic Register<\/em>, 5-27-25]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/06\/biblical-teaching-on-the-sacrament-of-confirmation.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Biblical Teaching on the Sacrament of Confirmation<\/a>\u00a0[2013]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/01\/sacrament-anointing-biblical-evidence.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sacrament of Anointing \/ Extreme Unction: The Biblical Evidence<\/a>\u00a0[2009;\u00a0Addendum added on 1-10-17]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/01\/holy-orders-ordination-biblical-evidence.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sacrament of Holy Orders (Ordination): The Biblical Evidence<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0[5-9-08]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"http:\/\/www.ncregister.com\/blog\/darmstrong\/confession-and-absolution-are-biblical\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Confession and Absolution Are Biblical<\/a>\u00a0[<em>National Catholic Register<\/em>, 7-31-17]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2019\/02\/sacrament-of-matrimony-bible-fathers-vs-calvin-55.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sacrament of Matrimony: Bible &amp; Fathers (vs. Calvin #55)<\/a>\u00a0[12-23-09]<\/p>\n<p>If each and every argument above is valid, then there is biblical support for seven sacraments. In that logical sense, Geisler is dead-wrong on both counts.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Catholic scholars claim that seven sacraments exist in Scripture implicitly like the Trinity does. This is a false analogy since all the premises from which the Trinity is derived are taught explicitly in Scripture, namely: (1) there is one God, and (2) there are three persons who are God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Hence, (3) there must be three persons in the one God. But nowhere does the Bible explicitly teach that marriage, penance, and confirmation, for example, are sacraments. These activities are no more sacraments than Bible reading, which is also a means of receiving grace (Ps. 119; Rom. 10:17; Rev. 1:3). At best, Catholic scholars can point to the acts or events corresponding to these seven sacraments in Scripture, but proving they were sacraments as Catholicism understands them (namely, as a cause of grace) is another matter. (p. 259)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Again, in arguing for each sacrament on its own, we can provide direct or at least deductive or indirect (as opposed to explicit) evidence for the essential components entailed in that sacrament. We need not find the <em>word<\/em>, <em>sacrament<\/em>, any more than we need to find the word <em>Trinity<\/em> in the Bible to prove that (neither word is in the Bible). What we need to find are the <em>concepts<\/em> required for each; and they <em>are<\/em> all there in the Bible. They don\u2019t have to all be in <em>one place<\/em>, either.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. Geisler flat-out denies above that three of the sacraments can be found in the Bible (apparently, then, he thinks that the <em>other<\/em> four <em>are<\/em> present in some sense). Let\u2019s take a look at whether the Bible teaches that each of these convey grace (the essence of a sacrament). Note that the word \u201cgrace\u201d doesn\u2019t always need to be present, either.<\/p>\n<p>The essence of confirmation is receiving the Holy Spirit. The indwelling of all believers by God the Holy Spirit is hardly a controversial notion. All Christians believe in it. All confirmation adds is a specific time that this predominantly and ritually occurs (usually in children at 12-14 years old). In my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2021\/06\/biblical-teaching-on-the-sacrament-of-confirmation.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">defense of it from the Bible<\/a> I noted\u00a0 <em>seven different aspects<\/em> of this, and backed each up with Holy Scripture (twenty passages total):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1) Descent of the Holy Spirit Upon Persons<\/p>\n<p>2) Jesus\u2019 Baptizing with the Holy Spirit<\/p>\n<p>3) Being \u201cFilled\u201d with the Holy Spirit<\/p>\n<p>4) Holy Spirit and the Laying on of Hands<\/p>\n<p>5) \u201cSealed\u201d with the Holy Spirit<\/p>\n<p>6) Anointing with Oil in Order to Receive the Holy Spirit<\/p>\n<p>7) Holy Spirit Received Via Authoritative Persons<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does the word \u201cgrace\u201d appear in any of them? No; but it doesn\u2019t <em>have<\/em> to, because what is occurring is clearly an act of grace. Receiving the Holy Spirit, or being filled with Him in greater measure (see Eph 3:19; 5:18; is clearly an act of grace from God. After all, the author of Hebrews refers to the \u201cSpirit of grace\u201d, and the Bible associates grace and the Holy Spirit:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Acts 6:5<\/strong> . . . Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Spirit . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 6:8<\/strong> . . . Stephen, full of grace and power . . .<\/p>\n<p><strong>Acts 7:55<\/strong> . . . he [Stephen], full of the Holy Spirit, . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cGrace\u201d basically means, in Scripture, being endowed with divine favor or power (Acts 6:8 above). Again, receiving God the Holy Spirit can\u2019t possibly <em>not<\/em> be seen as receiving more grace at the same time. The Bible also uses \u201cgrace\u201d in a <em>quantitative<\/em> sense: one can receive <em>more<\/em> of it and people possess it to differing degrees. See my article, \u201c<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/05\/degrees-grace-quantifiable-differences-grace.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Degrees of Grace \/ Quantifiable Differences in Grace<\/a>\u201d [5-4-17], where I back up my opinion with fourteen Bible passages.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, all of the components of Catholic confirmation are found in Holy Scripture, even explicitly, and even including the word <em>grace<\/em>, if we incorporate what the Bible says about St. Stephen. One simply has to <em>put it all together<\/em>, and that is the exercise of systematic theology. Likewise, here is how I defend the sacrament of penance or reconciliation from the Bible (from my article above):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1. The Church Dispenses Forgiveness (Sacrament of Penance)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Was the forgiveness of sins through priests foreshadowed in the old covenant?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Leviticus 5:5-6<\/strong>\u00a0When a man is guilty in any of these, he shall confess the sin he has committed, [6] and he shall bring his guilt offering to the LORD for the sin which he has committed, a female from the flock, a lamb or a goat, for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for him for his sin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Leviticus 19:21-22<\/strong>\u00a0but he shall bring a guilt offering for himself to the LORD, to the door of the tent of meeting, a ram for a guilt offering. [22] And the priest shall make atonement for him with the ram of the guilt offering before the LORD for his sin which he has committed; and the sin which he has committed shall be forgiven him.<\/p>\n<p><em>Did prophets ever function as God\u2019s intermediaries in the area of forgiveness?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>2 Samuel 12:13<\/strong>\u00a0David said to Nathan, \u201cI have sinned against the LORD.\u201d And Nathan said to David, \u201cThe LORD also has put away your sin; you shall not die.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em>Is there any passage showing that a priest grants absolution?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Matthew 18:18b<\/strong>\u00a0\u2026 whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.<\/p>\n<p><em>Does a priest have the authority to forgive sins as God\u2019s representative?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>John 20:23a<\/strong>\u00a0If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven;\u2026(cf. 2 Cor 2:10; see below)<\/p>\n<p><em>Is confession a biblical concept?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Psalm 38:18<\/strong>\u00a0I confess my iniquity, I am sorry for my sin.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Proverbs 28:13<\/strong>\u00a0He who conceals his transgressions will not prosper, but he who confesses and forsakes them will obtain mercy.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Acts 19:18<\/strong>\u00a0Many also of those who were now believers came, confessing and divulging their practices<\/p>\n<p><em>Is confession of sins to a spiritual authority specifically mentioned?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Mark 1:4-5<\/strong>\u00a0John the baptizer appeared in the wilderness, preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. [5] And there went out to him all the country of Judea, and all the people of Jerusalem; and they were baptized by him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins. (cf. Mt 3:6)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>James 5:14-16<\/strong>\u00a0Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; [15] and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. [16] Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects. (cf. 1 Jn 1:9)<\/p>\n<p><strong>2. Authority of Priests to Impose Penance<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Do priests have the authority to assign penance to sinners?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Matthew 18:18a<\/strong>\u00a0Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, . . .<\/p>\n<p><em>Do priests have the authority to \u201cretain\u201d sins?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>John 20:23b<\/strong>\u00a0\u2026if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.<\/p>\n<p><em>Is penance after confession of sins seen in the old covenant?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>Numbers 5:7<\/strong>\u00a0he shall confess his sin which he has committed; and he shall make full restitution for his wrong, adding a fifth to it, and giving it to him to whom he did the wrong.<\/p>\n<p><em>Did St. Paul assign penance to an unrepentant sinner?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>1 Corinthians 5:1-5<\/strong>\u00a0It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that is not found even among pagans; for a man is living with his father\u2019s wife. [2] And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. [3] For though absent in body I am present in spirit, and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment [4] in the name of the Lord Jesus on the man who has done such a thing. When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, [5] you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.<\/p>\n<p><em>Did Paul even publicly name sinners to whom he assigned penance?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>1 Timothy 1:19-20\u00a0<\/strong>holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting conscience, certain persons have made shipwreck of their faith, [20] among them Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. Indulgences (Relaxation of Temporal Punishment)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Does the Church have the authority to grant an indulgence?<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><strong>2 Corinthians 2:6-11<\/strong>\u00a0For such a one this punishment by the majority is enough; [7] so you should rather turn to forgive and comfort him, or he may be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. [8] So I beg you to reaffirm your love for him. [9] For this is why I wrote, that I might test you and know whether you are obedient in everything. [10] Any one whom you forgive, I also forgive. What I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ, [11] to keep Satan from gaining the advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his designs.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, must we find the word \u201cgrace\u201d in these passages? No, because the <em>concept<\/em> is there. Forgiveness of sins <em>is<\/em> an act of grace. We <em>do<\/em> have an explicit Bible passage that says that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Ephesians 1:7<\/strong> In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Bible teaches that human beings can convey God\u2019s forgiveness to human beings, acting in His stead. Leviticus 5:5-6 and 19:21-22 teach that offerings are brought \u201cto the LORD\u201d but it is the priest who makes atonement for sins, leading to forgiveness. God does it, and He does it through appointed officers: the priests in the Old Testament. Jesus expressly assigned this responsibility and task to His disciples (and by logical extension to ordained clergy):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>John 20:23<\/strong>\u00a0If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It\u2019s not just \u201cme and my Bible and God.\u201d Ordained clergy are involved in dispensing God\u2019s forgiveness of particular sins through absolution. Every aspect of the Catholic sacrament of penance can be established from the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>As for marriage being a sacrament and conveying grace, again, how could it <em>not<\/em> do so, seeing that it is directly compared in the Bible to Christ and His Church (Eph 5:23)? Moreover, the Bible, more than once, refers to a marriage partner <em>consecrating<\/em> and<em> saving<\/em> his or her spouse:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Corinthians 7:14, 16<\/strong> For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband. Otherwise, your children would be unclean, but as it is they are holy. . . . [16] Wife, how do you know whether you will save your husband? Husband, how do you know whether you will save your wife?<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Peter 3:1<\/strong> Likewise you wives, be submissive to your husbands, so that some, though they do not obey the word, may be won without a word by the behavior of their wives,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Now, it would be rather difficult to argue that <em>consecrating<\/em> and<em> saving<\/em> spouses doesn\u2019t convey<em> grace<\/em> to them, especially since Scripture explicitly ties salvation and grace together:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Titus 2:11<\/strong> For the grace of God has appeared for the salvation of all men,<\/p>\n<p><strong>1 Peter 1:9-10<\/strong> As the outcome of your faith you obtain the salvation of your souls. [10] The prophets who prophesied of the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired about this salvation;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Therefore, marriage conveys grace according to the Bible, which is the essence of a sacrament, and so marriage is a sacrament, and Dr. Geisler is wrong on all three counts, not because <em>I<\/em> say so (I\u2019m nobody), but because the <em>Bible<\/em> proves him wrong. He just didn\u2019t probe deeply enough into it. It seems that a man-made tradition (anti-sacramentalism) of a tiny sector of Protestantism was more important in his thinking in this instance than what the <em>Bible<\/em> brought to the discussion.<\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div>***<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>\n<div><em><strong>Practical Matters<\/strong><\/em>:\u00a0 I run the most comprehensive \u201cone-stop\u201d Catholic apologetics site:\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/adrianwarnock\/2024\/07\/top-personal-christian-blogs-ranked-by-ai-composite-score\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">rated #1\u00a0for Christian sites<\/a>\u00a0by leading AI tool, ChatGPT \u2014 endorsed by popular Protestant blogger Adrian Warnock. 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Geisler\u00a0(1932 \u2013 2019) was an American evangelical Protestant theologian, philosopher, and apologist. 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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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