{"id":94826,"date":"2025-11-28T11:15:24","date_gmt":"2025-11-28T15:15:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=94826"},"modified":"2025-11-28T17:55:46","modified_gmt":"2025-11-28T21:55:46","slug":"parting-of-the-red-sea-lake-erie-seiches","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/11\/parting-of-the-red-sea-lake-erie-seiches.html","title":{"rendered":"Parting of the Red Sea &#038; Lake Erie Seiches"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_94829\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-94829\" style=\"width: 1000px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/11\/Lake-Erie-Seiche.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-94829\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/11\/Lake-Erie-Seiche.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-94829\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: photo by wews, from the article by Trent Magill for ABC News 5 Cleveland, \u201cSay whaaat? Seiche!\u201d, 11-27-25.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>An article written for ABC News 5 Cleveland explained what happened on 11-26-25 on Lake Erie:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Seiche\u2026 Pronounced SAY-sh. Now that we\u2019re all on the same page\u2026 Let\u2019s figuratively dive in!<\/p>\n<p>Lake Erie is the shallowest of the Great Lakes. . . . water levels can change QUICKLY\u2026 It\u2019s called a seiche.<\/p>\n<div class=\"article-top-contain\">\n<div class=\"headline-wrap\">It\u2019s created by strong winds blowing over Lake Erie. Think of the lake as a bathtub. The wind blowing over the lake will push water in the same direction. West winds pile water up against the eastern basin. That water has to come from somewhere\u2026 that\u2019s right\u2026 the western basin.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"left-column\">\n<div class=\"Page-body ArticlePage-articleBody\" data-bsp-plugin=\"Module1202\">\n<div class=\"RichTextArticleBody\">\n<div class=\"RichTextArticleBody-body\">\n<blockquote><p>We saw that this morning (we\u2019re still seeing it, just not to the same degree) as winds gusted over 40mph. Lake Erie\u2019s water level dropped near Toledo OVER 4 FEET! On the other end of the lake, Buffalo, the water level was over 4\u2032 higher than normal. . . .<\/p>\n<p>You can walk to places you normally can\u2019t, but always know the latest forecast and don\u2019t get caught out when the water starts to return! (Trent Magill, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.news5cleveland.com\/weather\/weather-news\/say-whaaat-seiche\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cSay whaaat? Seiche!\u201d<\/a>, 11-27-25)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On 26 November 2025 at about 4:30 PM ET, my wife and I saw with our own eyes, extraordinary extended dry lake bottom (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798\/posts\/pfbid036LjdgsNroPLTzQLSWDZJKFSf6Mc2CgjfNcb9bFUDnGdmPmnBtCVx2K5MWHeYuheZl?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZUu7hM4HGll8QGlQEoFO9v_dYk73TZVyOqHf2mBWkM4cIHkvW33CxYrK8s2vGvKGGmps0QRT4eSkkW5FUqaHllNJN4nvob29H15LmnEOryZ_g&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">see photos on an accompanying Facebook page<\/a>) on the shore of Lake Erie, just north of Monroe, Michigan (about 40 miles from our house), for quite a ways out. According to Wikipedia, <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lake_Erie\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cLake Erie\u201d<\/a>: \u201cThe shallowest section of Lake Erie is the\u00a0<a title=\"Western Basin of Lake Erie\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Western_Basin_of_Lake_Erie\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">western basin<\/a> where depths average only 25 to 30 feet . . .\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I actually cited this phenomenon, which is not all that infrequent, as an argument from analogy for a <em>possible<\/em> natural explanation for the parting of the Red Sea, in my book, <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2023\/01\/books-by-dave-armstrong-the-word-set-in-stone.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>The Word Set in Stone: How Archaeology, Science, and History Back Up the Bible<\/em><\/a> (Catholic Answers Press: March 2023), on pages 113-114:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[Carl] Drews . . . stated,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">On December 1\u20132, 2006 and January 30\u201331, 2008 there were strong windstorms over the Great Lakes that caused extreme surge events on Lake Erie. In both cases the wind came from the west, producing displacements between the water levels at the western and eastern ends of the lake of 4.2 m [13.8 feet] in 2006 and 5.1 m [16.7 feet] in 2008.<\/p>\n<p>This is noteworthy because Lake Erie, one of the Great Lakes (about 30 miles from my home in Michigan) is a shallow body of water, as far as lakes go, with an average depth of 62 feet. Thus, the differential in water level between western and eastern ends of the lake (it\u2019s about 241 miles long) amounted to 22 percent of the average depth in the 2006 storm and 27 percent in 2008.<\/p>\n<p>To provide a mental image of what this means, I have a small pool in my backyard that is 4 feet deep and 15 feet in diameter. The equivalent difference in water level, compared\u00a0 to these storms on Lake Erie, would be a difference of depth of 10.6 inches higher on one side of the pool compared to the other (analogy to the 2006 storm), or 13 inches (analogy to 2008). We can readily observe, then, that such wind events could cause dry land to appear in shallower bodies of water, especially if the winds are significantly stronger.<\/p>\n<p>Footnote 140: Carl Drews, <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.plos.org\/plosone\/article?id=10.1371\/journal.pone.0072510\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cUsing Wind Setdown and Storm Surge on Lake Erie to Calibrate the Air-Sea Drag Coefficient,\u201d<\/a> <em>Plos One<\/em> 8(8) (August 19, 2013).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>The seiche or wind setdown event on Lake Erie yesterday (a four foot drop in the western basin) was significantly smaller than earlier ones in 2006 and 2008, per the above. It was an eight-foot differential between the western and eastern part of the lake, which is 58% as much as the 2006 event and 48% as much as 2008. In other words, on the western part of the lake in 2006, the drop in water depth in the western part of the lake was 6.9 feet, and in 2008 it was 8.35 feet, deep enough \u2014 by the way \u2014 for men to drown in if they can\u2019t swim. Drops in water levels on the Great Lakes can sometimes occur very rapidly.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the biblical account:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Exodus 14:15-16, 21-22, 26-28<\/strong>\u00a0 (RSV) The LORD said to Moses, \u201cWhy do you cry to me? Tell the people of Israel to go forward. [16] Lift up your rod, and stretch out your hand over the sea and divide it, that the people of Israel may go on dry ground through the sea. . . . [21]\u00a0Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the LORD drove the sea back by <em>a strong east wind<\/em> <em>all night<\/em>, and made the sea dry land, and the waters were divided.\u00a0[22] And the people of Israel went into the midst of the sea on dry ground, the waters being a wall to them on their right hand and on their left. . . . [26]\u00a0Then the LORD said to Moses, \u201cStretch out your hand over the sea, that the water may come back upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen.\u201d\u00a0[27] So Moses stretched forth his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to its wonted flow when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled into it, and the LORD routed the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. [28] The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen and all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea; not so much as one of them remained.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Exodus 15:8, 10, 12<\/strong> At the blast of thy nostrils the waters piled up, the floods stood up in a heap; . . . [10] Thou didst <em>blow with thy wind<\/em>, the sea covered them; they sank as lead in the mighty waters. . . . [12] Thou didst stretch out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<p>Note how a natural phenomena, \u201ca strong east wind all night\u201d is mentioned in 14:21 and \u201cthy wind\u201d again in 15:10. Wind is also mentioned in the plague of the locusts:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Exodus 10:13, 19<\/strong> So Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and <em>the LORD brought an east wind<\/em> upon the land all that day and all that night; and when it was morning the east wind had brought the locusts. . . . [19] And <em>the LORD turned a very strong west wind<\/em>, which lifted the locusts and drove them into the Red Sea; not a single locust was left in all the country of Egypt.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>God is sovereign over the weather and the natural laws that He created (as the Bible states many times). One could argue that here, God may have acted through a natural event that He knew would take place at exactly the right time, to save the Hebrews (water level dropping) and drown the Egyptians (when the water returned to normal). It may also have been miraculous. Either way, it\u2019s God\u2019s doing and His will that was fulfilled, and He used a human being, Moses, to participate in it, as His representative, as He also often \u2014 perhaps even <em>usually<\/em> \u2014 does.<\/p>\n<p>Those who have studied these passages closely, and know both the Bible and science, believe that it was not literally the Red Sea that we know today, involved in this incident. But that\u2019s a long discussion. My present task is to prove that events not unlike what the Bible describes are quite possible: dry land can appear where there was, before, four, six, or even eight or more feet of water, in a large lake or a sea.<\/p>\n<p>A \u201cstrong wind all night\u201d (Ex 14:21) is exactly what happened in Lake Erie last night (a west wind in this case; i.e., one that blows from the west to the east). Sometimes also, east winds can blow the water over to the west end of the lake, just as the Bible refers to an \u201ceast wind\u201d and a \u201cwest wind\u201d in Egypt (Ex 10:13, 19 above). So, for example, I found the following pair of comments in an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ohiogamefishing.com\/threads\/what-wind-direction-is-the-calmest-on-erie.34921\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cOhio Game Fishing\u201d forum<\/a>, from September 11, 2005:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p>I was fishing out of Lorain [a little west of Cleveland] yesterday . . . and the waves picked up . . . and there [were] white caps. I just don\u2019t understand why . . .<\/p>\n<p>I was out yesterday also and less than 2\u2032 went 2\u2032 to 4\u2032. The wind was out of the East, which means bad news for Lorain and West.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div class=\"Page-body ArticlePage-articleBody\" data-bsp-plugin=\"Module1202\">\n<p>In this present incident on Lake Erie, there was a gale force wind of up to 50 mph, which is part of the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/November_gale\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cgales of November\u201d<\/a> (also known as \u201cthe witch of November\u201d) that sunk the <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">SS Edmund Fitzgerald<\/a> on Lake Superior on November 10, 1975: almost exactly fifty years ago, as I write.\u00a0I have visited the spot right (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Whitefish_Point\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Whitefish Point<\/a>) near where it happened, and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Great_Lakes_Shipwreck_Museum\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the museum<\/a> there. It\u2019s Michigan folklore. Most people have heard <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FuzTkGyxkYI&amp;list=RDFuzTkGyxkYI&amp;start_radio=1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the famous song<\/a> about it by the late Canadian singer Gordon Lightfoot (I\u2019m even half-Canadian!). The waves on that fateful night were 35 feet high. Last night in the middle of Lake Erie they were 20 feet high. <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gale\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gale force winds<\/a> are considered to be between 39-54 mph.<\/p>\n<p>In my book I cited the scientist Carl Drews, who, in a 2010 article, cited by <em>New Scientist<\/em>, <em>The Atlantic<\/em>, <em>The Guardian<\/em>,<em> Smithsonian Magazin<\/em>e, NPR, and many other news outlets or scientific journals, speculated on the event recorded in the Bible, known as the \u201cparting of the Red Sea.\u201d His theory suggested a crossing in the freshwater lakes and marshes not far south of the Mediterranean Sea. But he was not the first to approach the broad topic from a scientific perspective. Oceanographer Doron Nof and meteorologist Nathan Poldor, among others, whom they cite, wrote an article on 1 March 1992, entitled, <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.ametsoc.org\/view\/journals\/bams\/73\/3\/1520-0477_1992_073_0305_atoeft_2_0_co_2.xml?tab_body=pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cAre There Oceanographic Explanations for the Israelites\u2019 Crossing of the Red Sea?\u201d<\/a> (<em>Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society<\/em>, Vol. 73, issue 3, pp. 305-314).<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s probable that <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Gulf_of_Suez\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the Gulf of Suez<\/a>, a narrower body of water to the northwest off of the Red Sea (varying in width from 12 to 20 miles) was also known as \u201cthe Red Sea\u201d in ancient times. Nof and Poldor believe that its northern end may have been where the biblical crossing took place. The Sinai Peninsula lies across it to the east. They explain their reasons for why they believe that the conditions in this area of the Gulf of Suez could plausibly correspond to the biblical account:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Qualitative<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">descriptions<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">water behavior in the northern edge <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of the gulf is given in Har-el (1983).<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">These<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">descriptions<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">suggest<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">that <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">when strong winds blow from the southeast, the wa<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ters of the Gulf<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Suez<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">spread some<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">8 to 9 km [5 to 5 1\/2 miles] <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">northward along the Suez Canal. Har-el suggests that <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">this happens every 20 years or so and is typically <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">associated with a sea level rise of almost 2 m [6 1\/2 feet]. In <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">contrast, when a strong wind blows from the north<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">west, the low tide is exaggerated. There are also <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">reports that<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Napoleon was almost<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">killed (during a <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">crossing at a shallow region) as a result of a \u201csudden <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">high tide.\u201d The Suez Canal company states that the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">usual difference between high and low water is 80 cm <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and that the maximal difference is more than 3 m [9.8 feet]. A <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">scientific analysis of the sea level fluctuations for the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">period 1956-1966 was made by Sharaf El Din (1975). <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">He speaks of tides, varying atmospheric<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">pressure, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and sea level variations of up to 140 cm [4.6 feet], but it is not <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">clear what are the direct causes of those variations. . . .\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">[O]ur approach in this study is to relate <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the Red Sea crossing to natural oceanographic phe<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">nomena. We shall show that a relatively simple oceano<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">graphic process related to a northwesterly wind push<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ing the water offshore and the water returning as a fast <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">high-amplitude<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">nonlinear wave<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">(once the wind<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">re<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">laxes) can explain the \u201cparting of the sea.\u201d The Gulf of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Suez<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">provides<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">an<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ideal body of water for such a <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">process<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">because<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">its<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">unique<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">geography;<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">as <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">stated earlier, it is rather long, narrow, and shallow.\u00a0<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">(p. 307; my bracketed comments)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">It is <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">expected<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">that,<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">in<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">most<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">cases,<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">wind will<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">relax <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">gradually (over a period of, say, a day), allowing the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">water to gradually return to its prewind position. Obvi<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ously, such a return would not impose any danger to <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">humans because one could easily escape its arrival. A <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">sudden (i.e., within several minutes) relaxation of the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">wind or a sudden change in its direction would, how<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ever, cause a severe response. Under such conditions, a rapidly advancing nonlinear gravity wave will cover the exposed area within minutes, preventing any possible escape. After discussing these points in some detail, it will be argued that our proposed wind crossing mechanism has much in common with the original biblical description because it involves pre-event winds, receding water, and a rapidly returning wave. (pp. 307-308)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">[H]urricane winds . . . <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">would give a rather high <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">sea<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">level<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">drop<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">about<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">5.8<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">m<\/span> [19 feet] <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">a<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">(corrected) <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">receding distance of about 3 km [1.9 miles], whereas a wind . . . <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">corresponding to a strong storm [winds about 57% as strong] . . . would give <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">a sea level drop of about 2.5 m [8.2 feet] and a (corrected) <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">receding distance of about 1.2 km [3\/4 mile]. (p. 311)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[Calculations suggest] <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">a Gulf of Suez setdown time of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">about ten hours for moderate winds and several hours <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">for strong winds. This is in agreement with the biblical <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">description of a wind blowing the entire night prior to <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the crossing. (p. 311, my bracketed comment]<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">[I]f <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the wind relaxes or changes its direction abruptly (say, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">within several minutes) then the water returns as a fast <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">nonlinear gravity wave or a \u201cbore.\u201d Namely, since the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">water behind the front of the nonlinear wave has larger <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">depth than the water ahead, the back travels faster <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">than the front and the wave ultimately breaks (e.g., <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Stoker 1957; Lighthill 1978). . . . for a wind setdown . . . corresponding to a storm, the entire receding area would be flooded in just 4 min[utes]. (p. 312)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Furthermore, if, due to natural <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">geological processes, the bot<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">tom topography in biblical times<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">were slightly different than it is <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">today and contained a ridge . . . then <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">crossing in \u201cthe midst of the sea\u201d with<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">water on both <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">sides<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">is certainly possible. In this context, it is appro<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">priate to point out that sea level variations on the order <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of meters also occur from time to time in some of the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Great Lakes. For instance, Lake Erie, which, similar to <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the Gulf<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of Suez, is long and narrow,<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">is<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">regularly <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">subject to fluctuations<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of about<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">1 m during winter <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">storms (see, e.g., Csanady 1982). (p. 313)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The average depth of the Suez Canal is 130 feet (shallowest at its northern end), with a maximum depth of 230 feet, and it\u2019s 190 miles long. The average depth of Lake Erie is 63 feet (25-30 in its western basin), with a maximum depth of 210 feet, and it\u2019s 241 miles long.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">[I]t is not clear whether such events <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">are likely to happen every 50,<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">100, or 500 years. <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">However, it seems that an occurrence of such events <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">is certainly possible. Moreover, it should be stressed <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">that a rapidly changing wind is not required in the case <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of a long ridge . . . Specifically, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">if the ridge is long, so that crossing the sea by walking <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">on the exposed bottom would take, say, 10 hours, then <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">even gradually returning waters could cause drown<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ing. (p. 313)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Believers can find the presence <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and existence of God in the creation of the wind with <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">its particular<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">properties just<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">as they<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">find<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">it<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">in the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">establishment of a miracle. Some may even find our <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">proposed mechanism to be a supportive argument for <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the original biblical description of this event. (p. 313)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798\/posts\/pfbid036LjdgsNroPLTzQLSWDZJKFSf6Mc2CgjfNcb9bFUDnGdmPmnBtCVx2K5MWHeYuheZl?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZUu7hM4HGll8QGlQEoFO9v_dYk73TZVyOqHf2mBWkM4cIHkvW33CxYrK8s2vGvKGGmps0QRT4eSkkW5FUqaHllNJN4nvob29H15LmnEOryZ_g&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">See the photos we took yesterday, on my Facebook page<\/a>. Since the water dropped by four feet, the area near the shore that is usually less than four feet deep was dry, and that\u2019s what we saw.<\/p>\n<p>This is section 164 \u2014 in Part IV \u2014 of my free book (posted on my blog), <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2023\/05\/the-word-set-in-stone-volume-two.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>The Word Set in Stone: \u201cVolume Two\u201d<\/em>:\u00a0<em>More Evidence of Archaeology, Science, and History Backing Up the Bible<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p>A Facebook friend, Gary Bennett, objected in the combox of my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798\/posts\/pfbid07WSyQCkZ6BVFsSGUBeD4CKf3xGdVZccWYHxHXkgSmty9nKNZuERpx8By9sNCXWnWl?__cft__%5B0%5D=AZWT2hRLDSNUOcTB25G4zWH8mZHm24A5i3-0QKS9CeuEPbxS_qyI1jFOVSqus0xdc07SpTc8P_C6A7lINS-EzvT4t-lMY9RZ_ns4t-uHyU8YQIbeDWvxU5_4PNyO-uwvEPQ&amp;__tn__=%2CO%2CP-R-R\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">posting of this article on my Facebook page<\/a>, and I replied, then sleptic-of-my-theory Eric Phillips also chimed in:<\/p>\n<p>Gary: <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">But that\u2019s not a PARTING, that\u2019s a receding. Exodus 14:22 clearly describes a wall of water on the right and on the left. As described in Exodus 14:22, it would be as much a miracle as Jesus raising the dead twice, or feeding the 5,000 on a few loaves and fishes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m assuming you read my article. If so, you missed this part, that I cited from a scientific article on the topic:<\/p>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Furthermore, if, due to natural geological processes, the bottom topography in biblical times were slightly different than it is today and contained a ridge . . . then crossing in \u201cthe midst of the sea\u201d with water on both sides is certainly possible.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">So all we need is a ridge or a sandbar, which is common in large bodies of water, especially in shallower places (I\u2019ve walked on several sandbars, myself, in Lake Huron), provided that the elements of a seiche or wind setdown event are in place.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Gary: <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">I truly believe it\u2019s as miraculous as is the Eucharist, not a use of nature.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">It would still be supernatural, in the sense that God communicated to Moses when to command the sea to part, and made the water come back just at the right time to drown the Egyptians. But it all could have been technically \u201cnatural\u201d: since all the elements can be observed scientifically today. I just saw, myself, a dry lake bed two days ago, where the water is usually up to four feet deep. That\u2019s many thousands (millions?) of tons and gallons of water being displaced; and then it returns within a day. And it\u2019s caused by strong sustained winds: precisely as the Bible describes the Red Sea parting.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric Phillips: <span style=\"color: #800080;\"><span class=\"xt0psk2\">Dave<\/span>, water on both sides isn\u2019t the same as <em>walls<\/em> of water on both sides.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">If we look up the Hebrew for \u201cwall\u201d (<em>chomah<\/em>: <a href=\"https:\/\/biblehub.com\/hebrew\/2346.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Strong\u2019s word #2346<\/a>), the unabridged <em>Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon<\/em> notes that it can have three meanings: 1) wall of a city, 2) wall of a building, and 3) in this instance, \u201cfigurative of waters of Red Sea\u201d. B-D-B notes other figurative uses of \u201cwall\u201d \/ <em>chomah<\/em>:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>1 Samuel 25:15-16 <\/strong>(RSV) Yet the men were very good to us, and we suffered no harm, and we did not miss anything when we were in the fields, as long as we went with them; [16] they were a wall to us both by night and by day, . . .<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">God said to Jeremiah:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Jeremiah 1:18<\/strong> . . . I make you this day a fortified city, an iron pillar, and bronze walls, against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, its princes, its priests, and the people of the land. (cf. 15:20: \u201cfortified wall of bronze\u201d)<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><strong>Isaiah 26:1<\/strong> . . . he sets up salvation as walls and bulwarks.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">The idea, then, seems to be that the water on both sides <em>had the characteristic of being a protection<\/em> for the Hebrews, and in light of what happened, this is absolutely true: it eventually came back to its normal state \u2014 quickly and dramatically, as we know can actually occur \u2014 and drowned the Egyptian enemies. I\u2019m inclined to believe, drawing both from B-D-B and another observation I will shortly note, that <em>both<\/em> elements were present: the water would have looked a bit like a \u201cwall\u201d (probably not nearly as big as the 50s film <em>Ten Commandments<\/em>\u00a0portrays it) but the <em>primary<\/em> meaning (if B-D-B is correct, and that is the expert linguistic source), is the notion of \u201cprotection\u201d.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Technically, it only has to be high enough to drown the Egyptians when it returns, and that\u2019s only seven feet or so (for those who can\u2019t swim). And we know that this, and more, is possible. I would also think that even if it is literally or primarily a miracle (i.e., God creates two \u201cwalls of water\u201d) that the walls wouldn\u2019t likely be higher than the sea level in which they occur (in other words, a \u201cparting\u201d wouldn\u2019t likely make the water even higher than it naturally is). The ridge is still below sea level, because it\u2019s normally covered up.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">metaphorical walls don\u2019t make any sense. You\u2019d have to be really wed to this theory, to find that interpretation attractive. And that wouldn\u2019t make sense either. Even if you could prove the parting was a natural phenomenon, the timing would be just as miraculous.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I respect what the biblical linguists say about Hebrew and Greek words. My view also incorporates a \u201cphysical\u201d wall to some extent, but also incorporates the meaning of protection. We use that in English today. We\u2019ll say, \u201cx puts up [emotional and\/or conversational] walls when I try to discuss y with him\u201d etc. I presuppose always that there was a historical event here. Of course, the timing is miraculous and supernatural as I said in my book and recent article and comments. Something actually happened. I think my take is as reasonable as any other, at least from what I know at this point.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric: . . . <span style=\"color: #800080;\">the text . . . doesn\u2019t say they were walking between walls that had water at the top of them, it says the waters themselves were the walls. I don\u2019t have a problem with \u201cexplaining the Scripture in natural terms.\u201d I do have a problem when the natural explanation depicts a different scenario than the one in Scripture.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I think it could quite well be that the \u201cwall\u201d of sea water that Exodus refers to is the sort of optical illusion that we have in large bodies of water: when we approach them it appears as though they have an \u201cupward\u201d orientation: looking higher than the shoreline which is, by definition, higher than the sea or lake level. This would be the phenomenological language that the Bible habitually uses. When one approaches an ocean or a Great Lake (as in my beloved Michigan) it looks as if the water is \u201cabove\u201d the observer. In fact, this is how it looked when we took our photos of partially dry Lake Erie: you can barely make it out in our cell phone photos, but the water in the distance did indeed look a bit like a wall. It even had whitecaps.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>I found an actual explanation of this in a <em>Quora<\/em> discussion: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/When-I-stand-on-the-beach-the-surface-of-the-ocean-looks-higher-than-me-Why\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cWhen I stand on the beach the surface of the ocean looks higher than me. Why?\u201d<\/a> Someone answered:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"q-text qu-display--block qu-wordBreak--break-word qu-textAlign--start\">What you perceive\u2014the ocean surface appearing higher than you\u2014is a consequence of geometry, perspective, and optics. Key factors:<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ol class=\"q-box\">\n<li class=\"q-relative\">\n<blockquote><p>Horizon and curvature \u2014 Earth is curved. Your eye has a limited line of sight tangent to the sphere; that tangent meets the sea at the horizon. Objects at the horizon are at a much greater distance and lie on the Earth\u2019s curved surface; they are not physically higher, just far away and at the tangent line.- For a standing person, the horizon is below eye level by a small angle; however distant sea surface beyond the horizon wraps away, so the visible waterline can look elevated relative to nearer features.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"q-relative\">\n<blockquote><p>Perspective and angular size \u2014 Perspective makes distant flat surfaces appear to converge and rise relative to nearer ones. When you look out to sea, the near beach and your feet are at a steep viewing angle; the far sea is seen at a shallow angle, so its apparent elevation in your visual field can be higher than immediate foreground. . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<li class=\"q-relative\">\n<blockquote><p>Local visual references and cognitive cues \u2014 Without nearby vertical references (trees, buildings), the brain judges elevation using the shoreline and the visual horizon; that can produce the illusion that the sea surface is higher than you when in fact it is level at mean sea level.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric [to me]: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">that doesn\u2019t make sense, because the Egyptians were coming at the them from the west. It didn\u2019t matter if they did have walls on their north and south. And while we\u2019re considering directions, the wind came from the wrong direction (the east) for the seiche explanation.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"html-div xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak xexx8yu xyri2b x18d9i69 x1c1uobl\">\n<div class=\"html-div xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak xexx8yu xyri2b x18d9i69 x1cf5odj\">\n<div class=\"x1n2onr6 x135b78x x1iorvi4 x78zum5 x1q0g3np x1a2a7pz\" tabindex=\"-1\" role=\"article\" aria-label=\"Reply by Eric Phillips to Dave Armstrong's comment 3 minutes ago\">\n<div class=\"x1r8uery x1iyjqo2 x6ikm8r x10wlt62 xv54qhq\">\n<div class=\"xv55zj0 x1vvkbs x1rg5ohu xxymvpz\">\n<div class=\"xmjcpbm xrgxkkn x1cwviid xhd2hih xv2q8z8 x9f619 xzsf02u x1rg5ohu xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x193iq5w x1mzt3pk x1n2onr6 xeaf4i8 x13faqbe\">\n<div class=\"xwib8y2 xpdmqnj x1g0dm76 x1y1aw1k\">\n<div class=\"x1lliihq xjkvuk6 x1iorvi4\">\n<div class=\"xdj266r x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">You miss the point here. The protection of the \u201cwalls\u201d was metaphorical in the sense explained, with related cross-references right from B-D-B. And it was literal in the sense that the water came crashing back and drowned the Egyptians. Whether the walls were north and south is irrelevant to both these things. As to the supposed \u201cwrong direction\u201d of the wind in the biblical text, the scholars I cited wrote:<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Qualitative descriptions of the water behavior in the northern edge of the gulf . . . suggest that when strong winds blow from the southeast, the waters of the Gulf of Suez spread some 8 to 9 km [5 to 5 1\/2 miles] northward along the Suez Canal.<\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div dir=\"auto\">OT Hebrew didn\u2019t have the terms \u201csoutheast\u201d or \u201cnorthwest\u201d, etc. So the biblical \u201ceast wind\u201d could simply refer to the wind from the southeast referred to above, which blew the waters of the Gulf of Suez towards its northern terminus, in which case the Hebrews would have crossed south of that gathering of water, west to east, just as a western wind blew Lake Erie to the east \u2014 what I witnessed two days ago \u2014 and the western shore became dry and \u201cpassable\u201d from north to south.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">Also, the linguists weren\u2019t supporting the theory.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">They don\u2019t <em>have<\/em> to. Their use is to inform us of what Hebrew and Greek words mean in each context that they occur. Do you actually have your own belief or opinion on all this or do you just try to tear down everyone<em> else<\/em>\u2018s opinion without offering any superior alternative?<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">your quotation from the Hebrew dictionary does nothing to support your theory. The metaphor in (3) is that the waters were piled high <em>like<\/em> walls.<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">That\u2019s what this standard lexicon believes is true of the word in this passage. Your dissent is duly noted. I respectfully go with their opinion over yours, since they are the experts. In any event, the biblical text doesn\u2019t say \u201chigh\u201d in Exodus 14:22, 29. It simply says, \u201cthe waters being a wall to them.\u201d I already noted that this \u201cwall\u201d needed to only be about seven feet, to be able to drown the Egyptians. It\u2019s not like the massive \u201cNiagara Falls\u201d of Charlton Heston and \u201cHollywood theology.\u201d Seems like maybe you have <em>that<\/em>\u00a0in your head.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\"><span class=\"xt0psk2\">Eric: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">Dave<\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #800080;\">, okay, a southeast wind, fine. So that could account for the wall of water on the north. What about the one on the south?<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">I already addressed this: a ridge or sandbar that goes from east to west, that is higher than the surrounding seabed during a wind setdown event or seiche, accounts for it. The water would be lowered enough to cross on the ridge, since the ridge becomes exposed.<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">Eric: <span style=\"color: #800080;\">The superior alternative in this case, I think, is \u201cWe don\u2019t really know how it happened, because this explanation has some problems.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">*<\/div>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<div class=\"x14z9mp xat24cr x1lziwak x1vvkbs xtlvy1s\">\n<div dir=\"auto\">Well, I find it <em>quite<\/em> plausible, and the more you engage in your relentless skepticism and I come up with replies, the more I am confirmed in my opinion, through the weakness of your objections. I think what happened is a natural event, timed in God\u2019s providence, that we have observed happening between the Sinai Peninsula and Egypt (Gulf of Suez), and in Lake Erie, 40 miles from my home, described partially in typically Hebraic phenomenological language. And I think I have plausibly explained the latter specifically regarding this case by noting the illusion of the ocean \u201crising\u201d above us when in fact it does not. So, I believe that it\u2019s both real events and phenomenological language. Both\/and. God\u2019s protection was expressed metaphorically, and that then became real when the water came crashing back. A wall of water is what it looks like, either from a shore or on a ridge out in the (lowered) water. That was seen even in my own photos of the seiche on Lake Erie two days ago. 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Seiche!\u201d<\/a><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">, 11-27-25.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: I note similarities of \u201cseiche\u201d events on Lake Erie with the biblical parting of the Red Sea, and cite a 1992 article on a possible \u201cparting\u201d in the Gulf of Suez (part of the Red Sea).<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 \u00a0 An article written for ABC News 5 Cleveland explained what happened on 11-26-25 on Lake Erie: Seiche\u2026 Pronounced SAY-sh. Now that we\u2019re all on the same page\u2026 Let\u2019s figuratively dive in! Lake Erie is the shallowest of the Great Lakes. . . . water levels can change QUICKLY\u2026 It\u2019s called a seiche. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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