{"id":95369,"date":"2025-12-17T11:51:53","date_gmt":"2025-12-17T15:51:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=95369"},"modified":"2025-12-17T19:33:13","modified_gmt":"2025-12-17T23:33:13","slug":"early-protestant-leaders-damning-each-other-40-examples","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/12\/early-protestant-leaders-damning-each-other-40-examples.html","title":{"rendered":"Early Protestant Leaders Damning Each Other: 40 Examples"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_95390\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-95390\" style=\"width: 552px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/12\/Protestantism-552x833-1.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-95390 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2025\/12\/Protestantism-552x833-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"552\" height=\"833\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-95390\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: self-designed cover of my 2007 book.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Reformed Baptist and YouTube apologist Dr. Gavin Ortlund stated in his video,<\/span> <a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=EBAK_Oc6SsI&amp;list=PLHEAAaXlz-143tP0zNAJljNwZi_P3wX8f&amp;index=3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cThe 5 Minute Case for Protestantism\u201d<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(6-8-23) at 39 seconds in:<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cThroughout the medieval era, pretty much all the Roman Catholics think that the non-Catholics are damned . . . and those views find their way into the highest levels of magisterial teaching.\u201d <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This is untrue, an<\/span>d <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2024\/02\/catholicism-non-catholic-salvation-vs-gavin-ortlund.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">I thoroughly refuted it<\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(only to be utterly ignored by Dr. Ortlund, as usual). If we want to find massive consigning of other Christians \u2014 <em>Protestants<\/em> \u2014 to hell, we have to examine the early Protestant leaders. I massively document this below. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Yet Dr. Ortlund has, as of late, contended in books and videos that Protestantism is where true catholicity and ecumenism is to be found. One would <em>never<\/em> conclude<em>\u00a0that<\/em>, reading all of the mutual anathematizing below. And, ironically, Dr. Ortlund, as a believer in adult baptism, very well could have been executed as a seditious heretic, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2025\/06\/luther-melanchthon-lutherans-death-to-anabaptists.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">with the approval of Martin Luther and his successor Philip Melanchthon<\/a>, whereas they only banished Catholics, at worst.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">This one will not hear of baptism, and that one denies the sacrament, . . .\u00a0 some say this, some say that: there are as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Martin Luther, <em>Letter to the Christians of Antwerp<\/em>, early 1525; see German primary sources <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=hq0S-acv6MAC&amp;dq=editions%3AnlW0FiV07WIC&amp;pg=RA1-PA61#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">De Wette, vol. III, p. 61<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/www.archive.org\/stream\/werkekritischege18luthuoft#page\/547\/mode\/1up\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Weimar edition, vol. 18, p. 547<\/a> \/ <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=9DcoAAAAYAAJ&amp;dq=Dr.%20Martin%20Luthers%20S%C3%A4mtliche%20schriften%2053&amp;pg=PA342#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Erlangen edition, vol. 53, p. 342<\/a>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">I see that schisms and errors are increasing proportionately with the passage of time, and that there is no end to the rage and fury of Satan.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Martin Luther, <em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, p. 360)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">All the sectaries think they are a hundred times wiser than I, and do not listen to me; I am more at war with them than with the Pope, and they do more harm.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Martin Luther to William Pravest, 14 March 1528; in <em>Luther\u2019s Correspondence and Other Contemporary Letters<\/em>, Vol. II: 1521-1530; translated and edited by Preserved Smith and Charles M. Jacobs, Philadelphia: The Lutheran Publication Society: 1918)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">The wicked take occasion from our dissensions to speak evil, and the weak are only perplexed by our unintelligible disputations. Nor in truth, is it of little importance to prevent the suspicion of any difference having arisen between us from being handed down in any way to posterity; for it is worse than absurd that parties should be found disagreeing on the very principles, after we have been compelled to make our departure from the world.\u00a0<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(John Calvin to Philip Melanchthon, 28 November 1552, from <i>Selected Works of John Calvin: Tracts and Letters: Letters, Part 2, 1545-1553<\/i>, vol. 5 of 7; edited by Jules Bonnet, translated by David Constable; Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House, 1983; reproduction of <i>Letters of John Calvin<\/i>, vol. 2 [Philadelphia: Presbyterian Board of Publication, 1858]; pp. 376-377)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>1 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjV4v74x8KRAxVNxskDHS4WLhYQFnoECDAQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHuldrych_Zwingli&amp;usg=AOvVaw0WGVpIziTzMVqe3Z5G7ggP&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ulrich Zwingli<\/a> vs. Lutherans<\/em>: he compared <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cworshiping the consecrated bread\u201d<\/span> with the worship of the golden calf at Dan (I Kings 12:28 f.). (<em>Letter to Matthew Alber<\/em>, published in 1525. <em>C.R<\/em>. 90, 342;\u00a0<em>St. L<\/em>. 17, 1520;<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">cited in <em>Luther\u2019s Works<\/em> [\u201c<em>LW\u201d<\/em>], Vol. 37, p. 22, footnote 24)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>2 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjV4v74x8KRAxVNxskDHS4WLhYQFnoECDAQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHuldrych_Zwingli&amp;usg=AOvVaw0WGVpIziTzMVqe3Z5G7ggP&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ulrich Zwingli<\/a> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwigu-SYyMKRAxXD18kDHYvbFjQQFnoECCwQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMartin_Luther&amp;usg=AOvVaw2C-SCWA7kJZL_HCR8U4oNQ&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Martin Luther<\/a><\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">not led by the same Spirit.<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Corpus_Reformatorum\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Corpus Reformatorum<\/em><\/a> [\u201c<em>C. R.<\/em>\u201c],<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">95, 317; 5 April 1525; cited in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, p. 21; footnote 19.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>3<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Andreas Karlstadt<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Dr. Karlstadt has fallen from the kingdom of Christ and has suffered shipwreck with respect to faith.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">. . . Dr. Karlstadt . . . has lost Christ.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Against the Heavenly Prophets in the Matter of Images and Sacraments<\/em>, 1525; in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 40, pp. 79 ff.; this quote from pp. 139-140)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>4<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Andreas Karlstadt<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">. . . a vengeful devil, by which indeed Dr. Karlstadt is possessed.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Against the Heavenly Prophets . . .<\/em>, 1525; in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 40, p. 204)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>5 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjV4v74x8KRAxVNxskDHS4WLhYQFnoECDAQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHuldrych_Zwingli&amp;usg=AOvVaw0WGVpIziTzMVqe3Z5G7ggP&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ulrich Zwingli<\/a> vs. Lutherans<\/em>: he ridiculed the Lutherans\u2019 <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cedible, impanated, baked, roasted, ground-up God.\u201d<\/span> (<em>Reply to Urban Rhegius<\/em>, 1526; <em>C.R<\/em>. 91, 934; cited in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, p. 22, footnote 24)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>6<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjdhKS4yMKRAxWeNNAFHQ2NPTcQFnoECCcQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJohannes_Oecolampadius&amp;usg=AOvVaw23-ulhx9K-3gatym7dGpcK&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Oecolampadius<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwi0pqjk3MKRAxWz38kDHTF4GzUQFnoECB4QAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FUrbanus_Rhegius&amp;usg=AOvVaw1jWUTXTVxQSomeNo4ZuiNB&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Urbanus Rhegius<\/a><\/span><\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Pray Christ to guide my pen so as to refute Satan successfully. . . . I am grieved that that estimable man Oecolampadius has fallen into the mire through such childish nonsensical ideas. Satan urges him on. May God save him! Urbanus Rhegius also inclines the same way, or has fallen in.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(To Nicolas Hausmann, 1 Jan. 1527; in <em>The Letters of Martin Luther<\/em>, selected and translated by Margaret A. Currie, London: Macmillan &amp; Co., Ltd., 1908)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>7 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjV4v74x8KRAxVNxskDHS4WLhYQFnoECDAQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FHuldrych_Zwingli&amp;usg=AOvVaw0WGVpIziTzMVqe3Z5G7ggP&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ulrich Zwingli<\/a> vs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwigu-SYyMKRAxXD18kDHYvbFjQQFnoECCwQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMartin_Luther&amp;usg=AOvVaw2C-SCWA7kJZL_HCR8U4oNQ&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Martin Luther<\/a><\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">[a] fanatic, fool, bumpkin, yes a devil, murderer, and corrupter of souls who blasphemes the holy and venerable sacrament of our Lord Jesus Christ.<\/span> (<em>That These Words . .. Will Always Retain Their Ancient, Single Meaning. Ulrich Zwingli\u2019s Christian Answer<\/em>, 1527,<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Corpus_Reformatorum\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>Corpus Reformatorum<\/em><\/a> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[\u201c<em>C. R.<\/em>\u201c], 92, 831; <em>St. L<\/em>. 20, 1139; cited in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, p. 18, footnote 14)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>8 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjh8oCoyMKRAxUgGtAFHfpjJ-oQFnoECCsQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMartin_Bucer&amp;usg=AOvVaw0cftpg-v-4E7zm10TzOwDV&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Martin Bucer<\/a> vs. Martin Luther<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Let Luther acknowledge that he is being led by a spirit far different from that of Christ.<\/span> (<em>Preface<\/em>, 1527.\u00a0<em>St. L<\/em>. 17, 1601; cited in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, p. 21, footnote 19)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>9<\/strong> Ulrich Zwingli, Martin Bucer, and John Oecolampadius vs. Martin Luther: [according to Luther]: <\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\">they regard us as \u201cun-Christians\u201d whom the Spirit of God has forsaken . . .<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 21)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>10<\/strong> Ulrich Zwingli, Martin Bucer, and John Oecolampadius vs. Martin Luther: [according to Luther]: <\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\">Since we \u201cun-Christians\u201d and unforbearing heathen, I say, must suffer such horrible slander and shameful vilification from them, they, as the holy Christians . . . they regard me as full of devils.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, <\/span>23)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>11 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwigu-SYyMKRAxXD18kDHYvbFjQQFnoECCwQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMartin_Luther&amp;usg=AOvVaw2C-SCWA7kJZL_HCR8U4oNQ&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Martin Luther<\/a> vs. the \u201cSacramentarian Fanatics\u201d<\/em> (primarily Ulrich Zwingli, Martin Bucer, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjdhKS4yMKRAxWeNNAFHQ2NPTcQFnoECCcQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJohannes_Oecolampadius&amp;usg=AOvVaw23-ulhx9K-3gatym7dGpcK&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Oecolampadius<\/a>): <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Our adversary says that mere bread and wine are present, not the body and blood of the Lord. If they believe and teach wrongly here, then they blaspheme God and are giving the lie to the Holy Spirit, betray Christ, and seduce the world. One side must be of the devil, and God\u2019s enemy. There is no middle ground. . . . These fanatics demonstrate forthrightly that they regard the words and works of Christ as nothing but human prattle . . .<\/span> (<em>That These Words of Christ, \u201cThis is My Body,\u201d Etc., Still Stand Firm Against the Fanatics<\/em>\u00a0(published in English translation in <em>Luther\u2019s Works<\/em> [\u201c<em>LW\u201d<\/em>], Vol. 37, p. 13 ff.; dated March 1527; this excerpt from p. 26).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>12<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. the \u201cSacramentarian Fanatics\u201d<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">they are clearly found to be entertaining such devilish ideas and advising things which make for the despising, blaspheming, and disgrace of God and our eternal death and destruction . . .<\/span> (. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 27)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>13<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. the \u201cSacramentarian Fanatics\u201d<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">we intend to shun, condemn, and censure them, as idolaters, corrupters of God\u2019s Word, blasphemers, and liars . . .<\/span> (. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 27; footnote 33 on the German for the word \u201cidolater\u201d: \u201cLuther\u2019s manuscript here reads <em>ketzer<\/em> \u2014 \u2018heretics\u2019; the printed version, probably revised by Luther himself, reads <em>g\u00f6tzer<\/em>.\u201d)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>14<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. the \u201cSacramentarian Fanatics\u201d<\/em>:<span style=\"color: #008000;\"> . . . they bring so many souls into the everlasting fire of hell . . .<\/span> (. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 28)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>15<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. John Oecolampadius<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">This is Oecolampadius\u2019 \u201cspirit\u201d . . . that human fancy and unbelief shall prevail over God\u2019s Word and form the basis of our faith. . . . How profoundly can Satan mislead such people?<\/span> (. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 50)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>16<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. John Oecolampadius<\/em>:<\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\"> shameful, dreadful blasphemies . . .<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">what shall I say of the outrageous audacity of this hellish Satan?<\/span> (. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 127)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>17<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. the \u201cSacramentarian Fanatics\u201d<\/em>:<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">he who deliberately denies, blasphemes, and desecrates Christ in one subject or article cannot correctly teach or honor him at any other point; it is sheer hypocrisy and deception, . . . one either loses Christ completely, or has him completely.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(. . . <em>Against the Fanatics<\/em>, 1527, <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37, 131)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>18<\/strong> John Oecolampadius vs. Martin Luther<\/em>: [Luther] <span style=\"color: #008000;\">starts with the devil and spews out devils in all his words . . .<\/span> (<em>That Dr. Luther\u2019s Misunderstanding . . . is Untenable<\/em>, 1527; cited in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 37269; footnote 171)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>19<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Such dissension and factionalism cannot and does not come from the Holy Spirit. It certainly comes from the very devil himself . . .<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 161 ff.; this citation from p. 163)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>20<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli,<\/em> <em><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Oecolampadius, and Schwenkfeld<\/span><\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">. . . heretics, fanatics, deceivers . . .<\/span> (<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 169)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>21<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">beware of Zwingli and sun his books as the prince of hell\u2019s poison. For the man is completely perverted and has entirely lost Christ. . . . this man never publishes a book without spewing out new errors, more and more all the time.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 206-207)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>22<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">We in turn raise a hue and cry against them for separating the person of Christ as though there were two persons<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">[the heresy of Nestorianism]. (<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 212; Zwingli had falsely accused Luther of the heresy of Monophysitism)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>23<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">one who denies a common article of faith is to be shunned as a manifest heretic. Now Zwingli not only denies this most exalted and necessary article, that the Son of God died for us; he actually blasphemes it, saying it is the most outrageous heresy that ever existed. . . . he leaves us no other Christ than a mere man who died for us and redeemed us. . . . This teaching altogether rejects and condemns the entire Christian faith and the whole world\u2019s salvation. . . . I regard Zwingli as un-Christian, with all his teaching, for he holds and teaches no part of the Christian faith rightly. He is seven times worse than when he was a papist . . .<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 230-231)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>24<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">I do not argue whether the wine remains wine or not. It is enough for me that Christs blood is present; let it be with the wine as God wills. Sooner than have mere wine with the fanatics, I would agree with the pope that there is only blood.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<em>Confession Concerning Christ\u2019s Supper<\/em>, Feb. 1528, in <em>LW<\/em>, Vol. 37, 317)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>25<\/strong> Zwingli vs. Luther<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">May I be lost if he does not surpass Faber in foolishness, Eck in impurity, Cochlaeus in impudence<\/span> [all three, Catholics]<span style=\"color: #008000;\">, and to sum it up shortly, all the vicious in vice.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Letter to Conrad Sam of Ulm, 30 August 1528; in Hartmann Grisar,\u00a0<em>Luther<\/em>, translated by E. M. Lamond, edited by Luigi Cappadelta, six volumes, London: Kegan Paul, Trench, Trubner &amp; Co., 1915, Vol. III, 277)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>26<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">We are now seeing God\u2019s judgments for the second time \u2014 . . . on Zwingli. I prophesied that God would not long suffer such blasphemies, calling us cannibals, blood-drinkers, and other horrible names. They have brought it upon themselves.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(To Wenzel Link, 3 Jan. 1532; in Currie,<em> ibid.<\/em>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>27<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiGr42ppcORAxXBlYkEHZylGdEQFnoECC4QAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPhilip_Melanchthon&amp;usg=AOvVaw0XYrLDsRzW9aMrgdD7DiTh&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Philip Melanchthon<\/a> and Martin Luther vs. Anabaptists<\/span><\/em>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\">In a memorandum, written in 1536 by Melanchthon and agreed-to and signed by Luther, no distinction is made between peaceful and a small minority of violent Anabaptists: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #008000;\">That seditious articles of doctrine should be punished with the sword needed no further proof. For the rest, the Anabaptists hold tenets relating to infant baptism, original sin, and inspiration which have no connection with the Word of God, and are indeed opposed to it. . . . For think what disaster would ensue if children were not baptized; what would be the final outcome but thoroughly heathenish existence? Item, infant baptism rests on such sure foundations that the Anabaptists have no legitimate grounds for rejecting it. . . . it becomes clear that the secular authorities are bound to suppress blasphemy, false doctrine, and heresy, and to inflict corporal punishment on the offenders. . . . Also when it is a case of only upholding some spiritual tenet, such as infant baptism, original sin, and unnecessary separation, then, because these articles are also important. . . \u00a0we conclude that in these cases also the stubborn sectaries must be put to death.<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> (cited in Johannes Janssen,\u00a0<a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/historyofgermanp10jansuoft\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>History of the German People from the Close of the Middle Ages<\/i><\/a>, 16 volumes, translated by A.M. Christie, St. Louis: B. Herder, 1910 [orig. 1891]; Vol. X, 222-223;\u00a0see also: Roland Bainton,<\/span><a class=\" decorated-link decorated-link decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/hereistandalifeo005163mbp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i> Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther<\/i><\/a><span style=\"color: #000000;\">, New York: Mentor, 1950, 376-378)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>28<\/strong> John Calvin vs. Martin Luther<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">if Luther has so great a lust of victory, he will never be able to join along with us in a sincere agreement respecting the pure truth of God. For he has sinned against it not only from vainglory and abusive language, but also from ignorance and the grossest extravagance. For what absurdities he pawned upon us in the beginning, when he said the bread is the very body! And if now he imagines that the body of Christ is enveloped by the bread, I judge that he is chargeable with a very foul error. What can I say of the partisans of that cause? Do they not romance more wildly than <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marcion_of_Sinope\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Marcion<\/a><\/span> respecting the body of Christ? . . .<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"> (Letter to Martin Bucer, January 12, 1538; in John Dillenberger, editor,\u00a0<em>John Calvin: Selections From His Writings<\/em>, Garden City, New York: Doubleday &amp; Co. [Anchor Books], 1971, 47)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>29<\/strong> Heinrich Bullinger vs. Martin Luther<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">Everyone must be astonished at the harsh and presumptuous spirit of the man . . . The opinion of posterity will be that Luther was . . . a man ruled by criminal passions. . . . Luther\u2019s rude hostility might be allowed to pass would he but leave intact respect for Holy Scripture . . . What has already taken place leads us to apprehend that this man will eventually bring great misfortune upon the Church.<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Letter to Martin Bucer, December 8, 1543; in Grisar, <em>Luther<\/em>, Vol. V, 409 and Vol. III, 417)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>30<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli, Andreas Karlstadt, John Oecolampadius, and Caspar Schwenkfeld<\/em>: In his work, Luther calls these men -\u2013 and by implication those who believe as they do<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u2014<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">an <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201caccursed faction of fanatics, Zwinglians and the like\u201d<\/span> (p. 287), who adhere to a <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cblasphemous\u00a0 and deceitful heresy\u201d<\/span> (p. 288) (<i>Brief Confession Concerning the Holy Sacrament<\/i>, Sep. 1544, in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38; see page numbers above)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>31<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli and Oecolampadius<\/em>:<span style=\"color: #008000;\"> I had to be very concerned about their souls<\/span> [both were deceased by then] <span style=\"color: #008000;\">because they were still steeped in error and would thus perish in their sins. <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(<i>Brief Confession . . .<\/i>, 1544,\u00a0in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, p. 289)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>32<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201ca full-blown heathen\u201d<\/span> (<i>Brief Confession . . .<\/i>, 1544,\u00a0in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, p. 290)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>33<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjiy4fOyMKRAxV75MkDHUH-A4YQFnoECCUQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAndreas_Karlstadt&amp;usg=AOvVaw1S4lWTXR86YJl8efgP2ePb&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Andreas Karlstadt<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjdhKS4yMKRAxWeNNAFHQ2NPTcQFnoECCcQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJohannes_Oecolampadius&amp;usg=AOvVaw23-ulhx9K-3gatym7dGpcK&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Oecolampadius<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwit3rrZyMKRAxUa6ckDHZhMKcAQFnoECCgQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCaspar_Schwenckfeld&amp;usg=AOvVaw1MnPN6txoTs8En2Sb99SXG&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Caspar Schwenkfeld<\/a><\/em>: <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cmurderers of souls\u201d<\/span> who <span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cpossess a bedeviled, thoroughly bedeviled, hyper-bedeviled heart and lying tongue<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">. . . no one among Christians should and can pray for the fanatics or receive them. They<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">have incurred their penalty and are committing \u2018sin which is mortal\u2019 . . . may the dear Lord Christ deliver the poor people who are among them from such murderers of souls\u201d<\/span> (<i>Brief Confession . . .<\/i>, 1544, in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, p. 296)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>34<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli, Andreas Karlstadt, John Oecolampadius, and Caspar Schwenkfeld<\/em>: <\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cblasphemers and enemies of Christ\u201d<\/span> (<i>Brief Confession . . .,<\/i> 1544, in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, p. 302)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>35<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Ulrich Zwingli<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cI am certain that Zwingli, as his last book testifies, died in a great many sins and in blasphemy of God\u201d<\/span> (<i>Brief Confession . . .<\/i>, 1544,\u00a0\u00a0in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, pp. 302-303)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>36<\/strong> Martin Luther vs. Zwingli, Andreas Karlstadt, John Oecolampadius, and Caspar Schwenkfeld<\/em>:\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\">\u201cWhat Christian heart can or even wants to believe that the Holy Spirit, and not rather the loathsome devil, is continually at work in them . . . I would have to condemn myself into the abyss of hell together with them if I should make common cause with them or have fellowship with them . . .\u201d<\/span> (<i>Brief Confession . . .,<\/i> 1544, in <em>LW<\/em>, vol. 38, p. 305)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>37 <\/strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiUzvzkyMKRAxXV6BoGHWtfNDgQFnoECDAQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJohn_Calvin&amp;usg=AOvVaw3NQQ3Sv6AzynFE_PR0Afhg&amp;opi=89978449\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">John Calvin<\/a> vs. Lutheranism<\/em><\/span>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">In their madness they even drew idolatry after them. For what else is the adorable sacrament of Luther but an idol set up in the temple of God?<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Letter to Martin Bucer, June 1549; in Jules Bonnet, editor, John Calvin: <i>Selected Works of John Calvin: Tracts and Letters: Letters, Part 2, 1545-1553<\/i>, volume 5 of 7; translated by David Constable; Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983; reproduction of\u00a0<i>Letters of John Calvin<\/i>, volume II [Philadelphia: Presbyterian Board of Publication, 1858], p. 234)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>38<\/strong> John Calvin vs. [Lutheran] <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Joachim_Westphal_(of_Hamburg)\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Joachim Westphal<\/a><\/em>:<\/span> <span style=\"color: #008000;\">With regard to Westphal and the rest, it was difficult to follow your advice and be calm. You call those \u201cbrothers,\u201d who, if that name be offered to them by us, do not only reject, but execrate it. And how ridiculous should we appear in bandying the name of brother with those who look upon us as the worst of heretics!<\/span> <span style=\"color: #000000;\">(Letter to William Farel in August, 1557, cited in<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/books\/edition\/The_Life_of_John_Calvin\/zQtTAAAAcAAJ\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><em>The Life of John Calvin: Compiled from Authentic Sources<\/em><\/a>, <span style=\"color: #000000;\">Thomas Henry Dyer, London: John Murray, 1850,<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/books\/edition\/The_Life_of_John_Calvin\/sto5AAAAcAAJ?hl=en&amp;gbpv=1&amp;dq=and+the+rest,+it+was+difficult+to+follow+your+advice+and+be+calm.+You+call+those+%E2%80%9Cbrothers,%E2%80%9D+who,+if+that+name+be+offered+to+them+by+us,+do+not+only+reject,+but+execrate+it.+And+how+ridiculous+should+we+appear+in+bandying+the+name+of+brother+with+those+who+look+upon+us+as+the+worst+of+heretics!&amp;pg=PA407&amp;printsec=frontcover\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">p. 407<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>39<\/strong> John Calvin vs. Joachim Westphal<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">he mournfully deplores that I have treated him more harshly than the Anabaptists, Libertines, and Papists.<\/span> (<i>Last Admonition of John Calvin to Joachim Westphal, Who, if He Heeds it Not, Must Henceforth be Treated in the Way Which Paul Prescribes for Obstinate Heretics, <\/i>1557, pp. 346 ff.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><em><strong>40<\/strong> John Calvin vs. Lutheranism<\/em>: <span style=\"color: #008000;\">I am carefully on the watch that Lutheranism gain no ground, nor be introduced into France. The best means, believe me, for checking the evil would be that confession written by me . . .<\/span> (Letter to Heinrich Bullinger, 2 July 1563, in John Dillenberger, editor,\u00a0<em>John Calvin: Selections From His Writings<\/em>, Garden City, New York: Doubleday &amp; Co. 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Just type your email address on the sidebar to the right (scroll down quite a bit), where you see, \u201cSign Me Up!\u201d\u00a0<em><strong>Thanks a million!<\/strong><\/em><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>***<\/div>\n<div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">self-designed cover of my 2007 book.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: Collection of forty examples of early Protestant leaders (from 1520-1563), classifying fellow Protestants (often equally influential) as heretics or non-Christians or damned.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Reformed Baptist and YouTube apologist Dr. Gavin Ortlund stated in his video, \u201cThe 5 Minute Case for Protestantism\u201d (6-8-23) at 39 seconds in: \u201cThroughout the medieval era, pretty much all the Roman Catholics think that the non-Catholics are damned . . . and those views find their way into the highest levels of magisterial [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2331,"featured_media":95390,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[312,831],"tags":[2355,2348,4333,20258,4532,20264],"class_list":["post-95369","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-calvinism-general-protestantism","category-protestant-persecution-intolerance","tag-john-calvin","tag-martin-luther","tag-protestant-divisions","tag-protestant-internal-warfare","tag-protestant-sectarianism","tag-protestants-damning-each-other"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Early Protestant Leaders Damning Each Other: 40 Examples<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Collection of forty examples of early Protestant leaders 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Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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