{"id":959,"date":"2008-10-19T17:19:00","date_gmt":"2008-10-19T17:19:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2008\/10\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola-scriptura-part-one-definitions-and-introduction.html"},"modified":"2017-06-02T16:27:25","modified_gmt":"2017-06-02T20:27:25","slug":"reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola-scriptura-part-one-definitions-and-introduction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2008\/10\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola-scriptura-part-one-definitions-and-introduction.html","title":{"rendered":"Sola Scriptura Debate (vs. Evangelical Pastor C. Michael Patton)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-6689 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2008\/10\/SolaScriptura2.jpg\" alt=\"SolaScriptura2\" width=\"640\" height=\"478\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Image from a<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=pfG1dqC6VCA\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">You Tube presentation<\/a> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">on <em>Sola Scriptura<\/em> and the Five <em>Solas<\/em> (10-5-14), by Pastor Andrew Coleman of Sheridan Hills Baptist Church<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/support.google.com\/youtube\/answer\/2797468\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Creative Commons license<\/a> for reuse]<\/p>\n<p>***<\/p>\n<p>This series of replies will respond to a lengthy, multiple-post defense of <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">sola Scriptura<\/span>, written by <a href=\"http:\/\/theologica.ning.com\/profile\/MichaelPatton\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">C. Michael Patton<\/a>, on the blog <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Parchment and Pen<\/span><\/a>. He describes himself as an \u201chistoric evangelical.\u201d He is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/03\/an-emerging-understanding-of-orthodox-part-4-are-catholics-orthodox\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-style: italic;\">not<\/span> an anti-Catholic<\/a> (which is one major reason why I am taking a considerable amount of time interacting with him, because substantive and cordial dialogue is therefore<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> possible<\/span>).\u00a0We\u2019ve always had amiable relations.<\/p>\n<p>C Michael Patton is the president of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Reclaiming the Mind<\/a>, a ministry of theological development for lay-people. He graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary and was on pastoral staff at Stonebriar Community Church for six years with Chuck Swindoll. He blogs at <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Parchment and Pen<\/a><\/em>. Michael is also responsible for the development of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.credohouse.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Credo House of Theology<\/a>, a theological coffee house, museum, and bookstore. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianitytoday.com\/ct\/2012\/march\/next-michael-patton.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">He has been profiled<\/a> by the flagship evangelical magazine, <em>Christianity Today<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the listing of <em>his own<\/em>\u00a0entire series:<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 130%;\">In Defense of<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> Sola Scriptura<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/06\/defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-on\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part One<\/a><br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/06\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-two\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Two<\/a><br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/06\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-three\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Three<\/a> (Dual-Source Theory)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-four-what-did-john-believe\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Four<\/a> (Dual-Source Theory)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-five-what-is-tradition\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Five<\/a> (Tradition)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-six-apostolic-succession\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"color: red;\"><span style=\"color: #3333ff;\">Part Six<\/span> <\/span><\/a>(Apostolic Succession)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-seven-what-about-the-canon\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Seven<\/a> (Canon)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-eight-what-about-all-the-divisions\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part Eight<\/a> (Divisions)<br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/07\/in-defense-of-sola-scriptura-part-8b-what-about-all-the-divisions\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part 8B<\/a> (Divisions)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Related:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/why-i-believe-that-our-canon-is-fallible-and-am-comfortable-with-it\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Fallible Canon<\/a><br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/doctrinal-disagreement-to-the-glory-of-god\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Doctrinal Disagreement to the Glory of God<\/a><br>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.reclaimingthemind.org\/blog\/2008\/09\/why-i-am-proud-to-be-a-protestant\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Why I am Proud to Be a Protestant<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The six lengthy exchanges linked below between myself and C. Michael Patton (I replied to the above) were undertaken in October and November 2008. These old links from Internet Archive usually take a minute or two to upload. Be sure to select scanned versions from July 2015 or earlier.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">* * * * *<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150906184105\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/10\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part I: Definitions and Introduction<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150907171042\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part II: General Discussion<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150906233712\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola_14.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part III: Dual-Source Theory<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150906233712\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola_17.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part IV: Tradition and Apostolic Succession<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150906233712\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola_18.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part V: The Canon of Scripture<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150906233712\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/reply-to-c-michael-patton-on-sola_19.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Part VI: Divisions<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">* * * * * *<\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Image from a You Tube presentation on Sola Scriptura and the Five Solas (10-5-14), by Pastor Andrew Coleman of Sheridan Hills Baptist Church [Creative Commons license for reuse] *** This series of replies will respond to a lengthy, multiple-post defense of sola Scriptura, written by C. 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Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. They have three sons and a daughter, and reside in southeast Michigan (metro Detroit).","sameAs":["https:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/","https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/dave.armstrong.798","https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@LuxVeritatisApologetics"],"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/author\/davearmstrong"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/959","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2331"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=959"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/959\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/6689"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=959"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=959"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=959"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}