{"id":9688,"date":"2017-01-05T14:18:05","date_gmt":"2017-01-05T18:18:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=9688"},"modified":"2017-06-16T13:34:40","modified_gmt":"2017-06-16T17:34:40","slug":"pagan-practical-atheist-occultic-nature-mystic-period-1967-1977","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/01\/pagan-practical-atheist-occultic-nature-mystic-period-1967-1977.html","title":{"rendered":"My Nature-Mystic, Occultic, Practical Atheist Period (1967-1977)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-9689 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2017\/01\/Dave0376.jpg\" alt=\"Dave0376\" width=\"247\" height=\"209\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Yours truly: c. March 1976: senior in high school, about a year before my evangelical conversion (and the longest hair ever seen in any of my photos!)<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">*****<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">(7-27-11)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<div>Thank heavens for Google Search. I have almost 2600 papers on my blog. After thoroughly searching, I found all there is to find about my early life, on my website. To summarize, my life can be divided into four quite distinct periods:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<blockquote><p>1) Very nominal, ignorant, lax Methodist (United Methodist Church): 1958-1967 (up to age 9).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>2) Pagan, Occult-Influenced, Nature-Worshiping, Textbook Secularized Liberal, Unchurched, \u201cPractical Atheist\u201d: 1967-1977 (ages 10-18).<\/p>\n<p>3) Evangelical Protestant period: 1977-1990 (ages 18-32).<\/p>\n<p>4) Catholic period: 1990 to the present (ages 32-53).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>This paper is a documentation of what I have written about (mostly) the second period above: 1967 or so to 1977 and my conversion to Christ as His disciple, and to evangelical Protestantism.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\n<p>[Note: several\u00a0links here are\u00a0from Internet Archive; allow a minute or two for those to load]<\/p>\n<p>* * * * *<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>1) <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/09\/my-romantic-imaginative-conversion-to-christianity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">My \u201cRomantic \/ Imaginative\u201d Conversion to Christianity<\/a> (my most extensive treatment of this period of my life and my nature mysticism and pagan \/ occultic influences or affinities; written in 1997)2) My <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/10\/my-odyssey-from-evangelicalism-to-catholicism-2.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">published (Catholic) conversion story <\/a>(in Patrick Madrid\u2019s 1994\u00a0book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Surprised-Truth-Converts-Biblical-Historical\/dp\/0964261081\/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1311695249&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i>Surprised by Truth<\/i><\/a>) includes a section describing my pre-evangelical childhood. This\u00a0is the original draft, before it was edited (with some material added that I didn\u2019t even write). See the second through the tenth paragraphs. I wrote this in December 1990 and revised it slightly in July 1992.\n<p>3) A <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20070120060812\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2006\/01\/my-conversion-to-catholic-church-radio.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">transcript of a radio interview<\/a> from 8 September 1997 contains some comments on my early life in the first part. [or, <a href=\"http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/collections\/25-years-of-radio-interviews\/products\/interview-with-al-kresta-about-my-conversion-story-9-8-97\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">listen to the audio file<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>4) An <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/06\/two-conversions-interview-spanish-journalist-itxu-diaz.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">interview with Spanish journalist Itxu Diaz<\/a> (March 2011) has a lot of information about my early days.<\/p>\n<p>5) I wrote several paragraphs about this time in March 2008, in a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/02\/gratefulness-for-my-evangelical-protestant-background.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">paper about my evangelical background<\/a>. I will paste it below for your convenience:<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote class=\"gmail_quote\"><p>I sarcastically refer to [this] as the \u201cGreat Depression\u201d period of my life (March-October 1977). . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote class=\"gmail_quote\"><p>God sometimes gives a person up to their sin (and to Satan) for a time, with the ultimate goal of causing them to repent by hitting bottom and waking up (rather than being lost).<\/p>\n<p>I dare say that this happened in my own life. Being content, at age 18 (back in 1977), to live without God and pay Him very little notice at all, all of a sudden I found myself in a deep (very serious, clinical) depression and utter despair, that lasted six months. God knew what it would take in my case to wake me up. It worked. I soon cried out to Him (having nowhere <i>else <\/i>to go, and no hope). God in His tender mercy, accepts even this \u201cdefault\u201d \/ last resort discipleship. So I devoted my life to Him, as an evangelical Protestant. The depression didn\u2019t go away immediately, but the black despair did, and once the depression left after six months, it never returned (thank heavens).<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve always interpreted this as God, in effect, saying, \u201cokay, Dave. You want to live without Me? Do you <i>truly<\/i> want to see what it would be like to live a life of no hope and meaning; a world without God? Alright; I\u2019ll let you do that.\u201d And I saw what a truly Godless, nihilistic universe would be like and wanted no part of that!<\/p>\n<p>There are also times that a person rejects God utterly and so God \u201cgives him up\u201d because God honors the free will of man and will force no one to follow Him by compulsion. It\u2019s more a semi-sarcastic or ironic manner of biblical speech. Man chooses to rebel, but to phrase it as \u201cGod giving him up\u201d conveys the sense of God\u2019s control of everything, or relinquishing control (of human free will) as the case may be.<\/p>\n<p>In my case, obviously God knew (being omniscient) that I would soon cry out, so it was literally an act of mercy to give me totally over to my own corrupt desire of living a life of \u201cpractical atheism\u201d. Many atheists can play games and pretend as if a world without God still has meaning, but I was allowed the privilege of seeing what a consistent atheism leads and reduces to: black despair and meaninglessness.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>6) <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150607113851\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2006\/11\/dialogue-on-romanticism-and.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dialogue on Romanticism and Christianity<\/a>, from 15 February 2004, has a great amount of reflection about the topic in the title, and my own specific romantic \/ mystical experiences, including a poem I wrote around April or May 1977, called <i>The Dream<\/i>, that is very important in my life story and initial conversion to fairly zealous discipleship as a follower of Jesus Christ.<\/p>\n<p>7) Portion of <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150607120312\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2005\/07\/harry-potter-series-literary-magic-or.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Harry Potter Series: Literary Magic or Magical Mystery Sewer?<\/a> (7-19-05):<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"gmail_quote\"><p>Watching the films didn\u2019t harm my Christian faith in the slightest. On the other hand, at an earlier point in my life, when my faith was not yet strong or fully-formed (to put it mildly), the movies quite possibly could have helped lead me astray, since I did, in fact, get involved to a considerable degree in occultic pursuits. The supernatural held a strong fascination for me (thankfully channeled later on into Christian supernaturalism). C. S. Lewis himself was also seriously involved in the occult in the period just before his encounter with the music and romanticism of Richard Wagner and a mythological sort of contemplation which he described as \u201cNorthernness\u201d:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Now, for the first time, there burst upon me the idea that there might be real marvels all about us, that the visible world might only be a curtain to conceal huge realms uncharted by my very simple theology. And that started in me something with which, on and off, I have had plenty of trouble since \u2014 the desire for the preternatural, simply as such, the passion for the Occult. Not everyone has this disease; those who have will know what I mean [I do, very well] . . . It is a spiritual lust; and like the lust of the body it has the fatal power of making everything else in the world seem uninteresting while it lasts.<\/p>\n<p>(<i>Surprised by Joy<\/i>, New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1955, 60)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>At times as I watched these movies, I must admit that for fleeting moments I felt precisely this \u201cdesire\u201d that Lewis refers to. It\u2019s very difficult to describe without getting very heavy and mystical and philosophical, but it is a definite kind of coercion. I\u2019m able to push it down because of strong Christian faith, but short of that, I can easily imagine (given my own background) someone with a similar bent being drawn into things which are harmful to their souls: true sorcery, witchcraft, Wicca, etc.: things which are definitely wrong and condemned in the Bible.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>8) Portion of <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150607112037\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2010\/10\/more-thoughts-on-morality-of-harry.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">More Thoughts on the Morality of the <i>Harry Potter <\/i>Series<\/a> (10-28-10):<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\n<p>Without the Christian grounding . . . it could quite possibly be spiritually dangerous for some kids with troubled backgrounds and lack of education in Christianity.<\/p>\n<p>I did this myself (so I know, firsthand): without anywhere near proper knowledge of Christianity up to age 18, or commitment to Christ, I became involved in the occult and various questionable practices (telepathy, Ouija board, etc.). I had the spiritual imagination and curiosity and yearning, but because of lack of knowledge, it went in a wrong direction. Eventually, thank God, and by His grace, I channeled it towards the God of the Bible.<\/p>\n<p>Since my kids <i>do <\/i>have that grounding, I have no worries whatever about Harry Potter or any of the other fantasies they watch (or now write about).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>9) Portion of <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150507220747\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2005\/03\/dialogue-with-atheist-on-relationship.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dialogue with an Atheist on the Relationship of Christianity and Metaphysics to the Scientific Method <\/a>(vs. Sue Strandberg) (7-19-01):<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I used to try to do telepathy, ESP, the Ouiji Board, astral projection, all sorts of weird occultic stuff, back in the 70s. I was very serious about it. In a way, I see this in retrospect as an openness to possible supernatural realities, a form of open-mindedness, rather than pure gullibility (though it was partially that, too). I simply needed more information, upon which to make rational choices about what I would consider \u201cspiritual realities.\u201d<\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><\/div>\n<div style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But I would contend that it was post-Christian secular culture which influenced me to pursue these things in the first place. TV shows like <i>The Outer Limits<\/i> and <i>One Step Beyond<\/i> and <i>The Twilight Zone<\/i> \u2013 arguably \u2013 were means of propagating non-Christian supernaturalist worldviews among the populace. In a truly Christian society, much of this material would be frowned-upon, if not outright forbidden; considered harmful to souls.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>*<\/div>\n<div>\n<p>10) <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150907011749\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2004\/03\/beautiful-irish-songs-and-longing-of.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Beautiful Irish Songs and the Longing of <i>Sehnsucht<\/i><\/a> (3-20-04) (expresses my personal feelings and opinions along these lines).<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>Non-Autobiographical but Thematically Relevant Materials<\/b><\/div>\n<p>*<br>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150509162718\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2006\/11\/cs-lewis-and-romantic-poets-on-longing.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">C. S. Lewis and the Romantic Poets on Longing, <i>Sehnsucht<\/i>, and Joy<\/a> (the excerpts describe the experience or sense of Lewis\u2019 \u201cJoy\u201d that I and many others have experienced)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150509134433\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2004\/08\/myth-as-truth-jrr-tolkien-and.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Myth-as-Truth, J. R. R. Tolkien, and the Conversion of C. S. Lewis <\/a>(descriptions of the romantic paganism-to-Christianity spiritual journey)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150509134727\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2006\/11\/relationship-of-romanticism-to.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Relationship of Romanticism to Christianity and Catholicism in Particular <\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150607111649\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2008\/03\/brief-presentation-of-theistic-argument.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Brief Presentation of the Theistic Argument from Longing or Beauty<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2006\/04\/romantic-and-imaginative-theology.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">Romantic and Imaginative Theology: Inklings of the World Beyond<\/a> (my extensive links web page)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150607111512\/http:\/\/socrates58.blogspot.com\/2005\/03\/albert-einsteins-cosmic-religion.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Albert Einstein\u2019s \u201cCosmic Religion\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2015\/08\/atheism-remarkably-childlike-atomistic-faith.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\">The Atheist\u2019s Boundless Faith in Deo-Atomism (\u201cThe Atom-as-God\u201d) <\/a>(my sarcastic, but ultimately dead-serious treatment of atheist \u201cworship\u201d of matter almost as if it were God)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.peterkreeft.com\/topics\/desire.htm\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Argument from Desire <\/a>(Peter Kreeft)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.peterkreeft.com\/topics-more\/interview_baptism-imagination.htm\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">A Baptism of Imagination: Conversation with Peter Kreeft <\/a>(Ellen Haroutunian)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.quodlibet.net\/articles\/williams-aesthetic.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Aesthetic Arguments for the Existence of God<\/a> (Peter Williams; <i>Quodlibet Journal<\/i>)<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yours truly: c. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \\\"This Rock\\\" (now called \\\"Catholic Answers Magazine\\\"), \\\"Envoy Magazine\\\" (Patrick Madrid), \\\"The Catholic Answer,\\\" \\\"The Coming Home Journal,\\\" \\\"Gilbert Magazine\\\" (American Chesterton Society), and \\\"The Latin Mass.\\\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \\\"The Michigan Catholic\\\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \\\"Catholic Answers Live\\\" (twice), \\\"Faith and Family Live\\\" (Steve Wood), \\\"Kresta in the Afternoon,\\\" \\\"Son Rise Morning Show,\\\" \\\"Catholic Connection\\\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \\\"The Catholics Next Door.\\\" His large and popular website, \\\"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\\\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \\\"Envoy Magazine.\\\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \\\"index\\\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \\\"Surprised by Truth\\\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \\\"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\\\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \\\"The Catholic Verses\\\" (2004), \\\"The One-Minute Apologist\\\" (2007), \\\"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\\\" (2009), \\\"The Quotable Newman\\\" (editor: 2012), and \\\"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\\\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \\\"The New Catholic Answer Bible\\\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \\\"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\\\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \\\"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\\\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \\\"Quotable Wesley\\\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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