{"id":9761,"date":"2017-01-10T13:48:48","date_gmt":"2017-01-10T17:48:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=9761"},"modified":"2017-01-10T13:48:48","modified_gmt":"2017-01-10T17:48:48","slug":"thief-cross-sacraments-unnecessary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/01\/thief-cross-sacraments-unnecessary.html","title":{"rendered":"Thief on the Cross (Are Sacraments Unnecessary?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-9762 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2017\/01\/ThiefOnCross.jpg\" alt=\"ThiefOnCross\" width=\"533\" height=\"480\"><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Christ and the Good Thief<\/em> (c. 1566), by Titian (1490-1576)<\/span> [public domain \/ <a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Titian_-_Christ_and_the_Good_Thief_-_WGA22832.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Wikimedia Commons<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">(1996)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">***<\/p>\n<p>Many evangelical Protestants like to point out that the thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn\u2019t baptized and went to heaven anyway (Lk 23:39-43). From this they then conclude that both baptism, and sacraments in general are unnecessary for salvation.<\/p>\n<p>This is a weak, insubstantial argument from the get-go, because it presupposes a fallacy of wrongly applying the elements of an extraordinary, exceptional situation to ordinary situations (i.e., the routine infant baptism). That\u2019s as illegitimate as arguing from the \u201chard cases\u201d of abortion to unlimited abortion-on-demand. C. S. Lewis said: \u201cthe rules of chess are what create chess problems.\u201d One doesn\u2019t ditch the rules upon discovering a potential or perceived \u201cproblem\u201d made possible by the very existence of the rules!<\/p>\n<p>The Catholic Church has always recognized the <i><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2016\/10\/relation-of-baptism-to-baptism-of-desire.html?ref_widget=related&amp;ref_blog=davearmstrong&amp;ref_post=thief-cross-sacraments-unnecessary\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">baptism of desire<\/a><\/i>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Those who through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do His will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience \u2013 those too may achieve eternal salvation. (Vatican II:\u00a0<i>Constitution on the Church<\/i>, I, 16; cf. <i>Catechism of the Catholic Church<\/i>, #1257-1261)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words, the thief was in this situation. He had the desire for salvation (and, one might say, for baptism), but obviously was in no shape to receive it! But generalizing from this case to everyone is clearly illogical. Furthermore,\u00a0<i>Paradise<\/i> in this verse (Lk 23:43) about the thief on the cross (if interpreted\u00a0<i>literally<\/i>) is not even referring to heaven, and indeed <i>could<\/i> not, since Jesus was not yet in heaven on that day (\u201ctoday . . .\u201d). He was crucified on Friday and didn\u2019t rise from the dead until Sunday. In fact, He didn\u2019t ascend to heaven until forty days after that (Acts 1:3, 9-11; cf. Jn 20:17).<\/p>\n<p>Between Good Friday and Easter Sunday, He descended into <i>Sheol<\/i>, or <i>Hades<\/i>, the place of the dead (both righteous and unrighteous \u2014 see Luke 16:19-31) to preach to the <i>captives<\/i> (righteous dead). We know this from passages such as 1 Pet 3:19-20, 4:6, and Eph 4:8-10 (cf. Rom 10:7, Acts 2:27). So, then, <i>Paradise<\/i> in Luke 23:43 is referring to <i>Sheol<\/i>, not heaven. The conclusion is inescapable from cross-scriptural exegesis.<\/p>\n<p>For example, Kittel\u2019s <i>Theological Dictionary of the New Testament<\/i> (an impeccable and standard Protestant linguistic source) holds to this view, which is not just Catholic belief, but that of conservative Protestants as well (see also the reputable Protestant reference <i>New Bible Dictionary<\/i>, ed. J. D. Douglas, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 935).<\/p>\n<p>When some Protestants claim that baptism isn\u2019t necessary at all, they are in clear violation of scriptural injunctions or examples (e.g., Mt 28:19; Col 2:11-12; Jn 4:1-2; Eph 4:5; Acts 10:48; Gal 3:27). All Christians (excepting Quakers and the Salvation Army) have held to the necessity of baptism (if not regenerative baptism). There is no option for the believer on this point, provided he is able to be baptized (which the thief was not).<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, baptism is explicitly tied in with salvation in several passages (Acts 2:38; 1 Pet 3:21 [cf. Mk 16:16; Rom 6:3-4], Jn 3:5; Acts 22:16; 1 Cor 6:11; Titus 3:5). These constitute proofs for baptismal regeneration, which is held not only by Catholics, but also by Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans, Methodists, Anglicans, Churches of Christ, and Disciples of Christ. It is certainly as necessary for a Christian to be baptized, as it is to \u201creceive Jesus into your heart\u201d (which cannot be found in the Bible in those terms), whether or not it is considered regenerative.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Christ and the Good Thief (c. 1566), by Titian (1490-1576) [public domain \/ Wikimedia Commons] *** (1996) *** Many evangelical Protestants like to point out that the thief on the cross next to Jesus wasn\u2019t baptized and went to heaven anyway (Lk 23:39-43). 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Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. 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