{"id":98173,"date":"2026-04-14T17:22:07","date_gmt":"2026-04-14T21:22:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/?p=98173"},"modified":"2026-04-14T17:26:44","modified_gmt":"2026-04-14T21:26:44","slug":"1-thessalonians-4-rapture-vs-patrick-obrien","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2026\/04\/1-thessalonians-4-rapture-vs-patrick-obrien.html","title":{"rendered":"1 Thessalonians 4 = Rapture? (vs. Patrick O&#8217;Brien)"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_98179\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-98179\" style=\"width: 824px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2026\/04\/Rapture2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-98179\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/572\/2026\/04\/Rapture2-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"824\" height=\"824\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-98179\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: Im\u00e1genesIAcristianas (2-27-24) [Pixabay \/ Pixabay\u00a0Content License]<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>Patrick O\u2019Brien is a former Catholic Protestant anti-Catholic apologist. He has a Facebook page called <em>The Bible in Context<\/em>, with 66,000 followers. He offers many reels, or brief videos there, including one called, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/reel\/889431427199573\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cRapture is in the Bible!!!\u201d<\/a> In it he chides my old friend, Catholic apologist Steve Ray, who asked where \u201cthe Rapture\u201d was in the Bible. Steve <em>possibly<\/em> was asking where the <em>doctrine<\/em> is in the Bible, but maybe not.<\/p>\n<p>Patrick noted that the Greek word for \u201ccaught up\u201d in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 \u2013 <em>harpazo<\/em> [har-POZ-o] \u2013 means being \u201csnatched away\u201d or \u201ccarried away\u201d and is basically the same word as \u201crapture\u201d. That\u2019s fine, but it still doesn\u2019t prove the rapture <em>doctrine<\/em> of believers being snatched away from the earth in an incident that supposedly takes place seven years before the Second Coming. This novel belief appeared only in the 1830s.<\/p>\n<p>Even <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Harry_A._Ironside\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">H. A. Ironside<\/a> (1876-1951), a famous pastor and evangelist who believed in this doctrine, admitted that this idea of a rapture of believers is<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>scarcely to be found in a single book or sermon through the period of 1600 years! If any doubt this statement, let them search . . . the remarks of the so-called Fathers, both pre and post Nicene, the theological treaties of the scholastic divines, . . . the literature of the Reformation, the sermons and expositions of the Puritans, and the general theological works of the day. He will find the \u2018mystery\u2019 [of the rapture] conspicuous by its absence. (<em>The Mysteries of God<\/em>\u00a0[New York: Loizeaux Brothers, 1908], 50)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Let\u2019s take a look at 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Thessalonians 4:13-18<\/strong> (RSV) But we would not have you ignorant, brethren, concerning those who are asleep, that you may not grieve as others do who have no hope. [14] For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep. [15] For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep. [16] For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel\u2019s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; [17] then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord. [18] Therefore comfort one another with these words.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One thing we notice about this is that it appears to be primarily about the dead in Christ, as opposed to those alive when Jesus supposedly comes and snatches them away seven years before His Second Coming. The text says that \u201cthe dead in Christ will rise first\u201d and also that when Jesus appears (<em>whatever<\/em> this is referring to), He \u201cwill bring with him those who have fallen asleep.\u201d On its face, then, it looks like these believing dead will be raised (and possibly resurrected, too) and go to be with Christ <em>before<\/em> He makes this appearance, since they come \u201cwith him.\u201d All of this seems very odd, if the passage is about a \u201crapture.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Accordingly, Baptist Greek linguist A. T. Robertson, in his <em>Word Pictures in the New Testament<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.studylight.org\/commentaries\/eng\/rwp\/1-thessalonians-4.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">for this passage<\/a> commented on it [1 Thessalonians 4:13-18] as follows: \u201cThis is the outcome, to be forever with the Lord, whether with a return to earth or with an immediate departure for heaven Paul does not say.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Thus an essential element of the Rapture doctrine \u2013 being taken to heaven with Jesus \u2014 isn\u2019t even <em>present<\/em> in this passage, and is at best, an argument from silence. What needs to be determined is whether this is indeed the Second Coming of Christ or a second earlier appearance, as described. I submit that the text provides several clues that it is the Second Coming, as Christians had always believed, until a small group of Protestants decided to believe otherwise, a mere 190 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>So, for example, Paul mentions \u201cthe archangel\u2019s call\u201d and \u201cthe sound of the trumpet of God.\u201d Jesus mentions both in His Olivet discourse:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 24:30-31<\/strong> then will appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory; [31] and he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Later in the same discourse, referring to the same event, Jesus clearly teaches that this is His Second Coming, since the judgment of the sheep and the goats occurs as soon as He arrives, and He sits on His throne:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Matthew 25:31-35<\/strong> When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. [32] Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, [33] and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. [34] Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; [35] for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That\u2019s the final judgment. It\u2019s not a secret rapture. The Bible never distinguishes two different comings of Jesus from each other. It simply describes the Second Coming in many ways. Paul combines a trumpet with the general resurrection, which was implied in 1 Thessalonians, and also refers to the dead and those alive when He returns:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Corinthians 15:52<\/strong> in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And Paul connects the Second Coming with immediate judgment in the same book:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>1 Corinthians 4:5<\/strong> Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord\u00a0comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then every man will receive his commendation from God. (cf. 1:7; 1 Thess 3:13; 5:23; 2 Thess 1:7-9; 2 Tim 4:1; Jas 5:8-9; 2 Pet 3:10-12; 1 Jn 2:28; Rev 1:7; 22:12)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In Jude 14-15, we have the Lord appearing with saints and then judging:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It was of these also that Enoch in the seventh generation from Adam prophesied, saying, \u201cBehold, the Lord came with his holy myriads, [<strong>15<\/strong>] to execute judgment on all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness which they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Thus, all of these cross-references indicate that the Second Coming is being referred to in 1 Thessalonians as well. But what about this business of meeting the Lord in the air? What sense does it make for Jesus to then come down to earth? Well, as we alluded to earlier, the text doesn\u2019t say He takes saints to heaven with Him at this time. So that leaves the text open to different interpretations. A Protestant named J. D. King has some interesting thoughts about this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Paul isn\u2019t talking about an otherworldly escape. Instead, he is addressing what weighed heavily on the Thessalonian believers: <em>what would happen to those who had already died? <\/em>Would they miss out on the resurrection and the joy of seeing Jesus face-to-face?<\/p>\n<p>Paul made it clear that all believers\u2014living or deceased\u2014will share in the resurrection\u00a0and be united with Christ in his glorious return. . . .<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>To fully appreciate what is going on, we should examine the term Paul uses for \u201cmeeting\u201d in 1 Thessalonians 4:17\u2014<em>apant\u0113sis<\/em>. In Greco-Roman culture, this word carried the specific meaning of a formal reception for a visiting dignitary. It describes a moment of great honor, where prominent citizens would go out to meet a king and then accompany him back into the city in a display of triumph and solidarity. Rather than depicting believers being whisked away to heaven, it illustrates a powerful communal celebration in the atmosphere of the earth\u2014a royal procession welcoming the victorious King as he takes his rightful place in a newly restored creation.<\/p>\n<p>N. T. Wright provides a compelling explanation of this imagery, firmly rooting it in the cultural and political context of the Roman Empire. He writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Paul borrows imagery\u2014from biblical and political sources\u2014to enhance his message\u2026 Paul conjures up images of an emperor visiting a colony or province. The citizens go out to meet him in open country and then escort him into the city. Paul\u2019s image of the people \u2018meeting the Lord in the air\u2019 should be read with the assumption that the people will immediately turn around and lead the Lord back to the newly remade world. (\u201cFarewell to The Rapture,\u201d <em>Bible Review<\/em>, August 2001)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Wright isn\u2019t the only scholar who observed this. I. Howard Marshall, former professor of New Testament Exegesis at the University of Aberdeen, writes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Greek word used here [in 1 Thessalonians 4:17] probably carries an allusion to the way in which a visiting dignitary might be met on the way to a city by a representative group of citizens who would then escort him back to the city . . . The Lord\u2019s people go to meet him in order to escort him back to the earth, and that is where they shall always be with the Lord. (<em>1 and 2 Thessalonians<\/em>\u00a0(NCB; Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1983), 131)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Noted Evangelical theologian Leon Morris [<em>Tyndale New Testament Commentaries<\/em>, Revised Edition (Downer\u2019s Grove, Illinois, Intervarsity Press, 1984), 95] agrees. He says, \u201cThe expression translated to meet\u00a0is kind of a technical term \u2018for the official welcome of a newly arrived dignitary\u2019\u2026and is very suitable in this context.\u201d (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.jdking.net\/post\/disentangled-from-the-rapture-what-you-can-learn-from-a-closer-reading-of-1-thessalonians-4-13-17\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cDisentangled From the Rapture\u2014What You Can Learn From a Closer Reading of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17\u201d<\/a>, 1-11-25)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Related Articles<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/davearmstrong\/2017\/05\/resources-refuting-rapture-end-times-scenario.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Rapture End-Times Scenario: Catholic Refutations\u00a0<\/a>(Links Page) [5-8-17]<\/p>\n<p><em>Nave\u2019s Topical Bible<\/em>: \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/biblehub.com\/topical\/naves\/j\/jesus,_the_christ--second_coming_of.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Second Coming\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>*****<\/p>\n<p><strong>Photo credit<\/strong>: <a class=\"userName--owby3 decorated-link\" href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/users\/im%C3%A1genesiacristianas-5152838\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Im\u00e1genesIAcristianas<\/a> <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">(2-27-24)<\/span> [<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/illustrations\/ai-generated-rapture-apocalypse-8600647\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Pixabay<\/a> \/ Pixabay\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/pixabay.com\/service\/license-summary\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\">Content License<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p><em>Summary<\/em>: Biblical critique of \u201cthe rapture\u201d: a belief originating in the 1830s from dispensationalists, holding that God will \u201csnatch away\u201d His elect before the \u201ctribulation\u201d in the end times.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Patrick O\u2019Brien is a former Catholic Protestant anti-Catholic apologist. 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Formerly a campus missionary, as a Protestant, Dave was received into the Catholic Church in February 1991, by the late, well-known catechist and theologian, Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave\u2019s articles have appeared in many influential Catholic periodicals, including \"This Rock\" (now called \"Catholic Answers Magazine\"), \"Envoy Magazine\" (Patrick Madrid), \"The Catholic Answer,\" \"The Coming Home Journal,\" \"Gilbert Magazine\" (American Chesterton Society), and \"The Latin Mass.\" He also writes a featured column for every issue of \"The Michigan Catholic\": published by the archdiocese of Detroit, and was editor for most of the apologetics tracts published by the St. Paul Street Evangelization apostolate. Dave\u2019s apologetics and writing apostolate was the subject of a feature article in the May 2002 issue of \"Envoy Magazine.\" He served as the staff moderator at the Internet discussion forum for The Coming Home Network, from 2007-2010. Dave has been interviewed on many nationally syndicated Catholic radio shows, including \"Catholic Answers Live\" (twice), \"Faith and Family Live\" (Steve Wood), \"Kresta in the Afternoon,\" \"Son Rise Morning Show,\" \"Catholic Connection\" (Teresa Tomeo), and \"The Catholics Next Door.\" His large and popular website, \"Biblical Evidence for Catholicism,\" was online from March 1997 to March 2007, and received the 1998 Catholic Website of the Year award from \"Envoy Magazine.\" His blog of the same name (now transferred to Patheos), begun in February 2004, contains more than 1,500 papers, at least 500 debates or dialogues, and over 50 distinct \"index\" web pages. Unsolicited correspondence has indicated many hundreds of conversions (or returns) to the Catholic faith as a result, by God's grace, of these writings. Dave's conversion story was published in the bestselling book \"Surprised by Truth\" (edited by Patrick Madrid; San Diego: Basilica Press, 1994). Sophia Institute Press has published six of his books: \"A Biblical Defense of Catholicism\" (Foreword by Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J., 1996 \/ 2003), \"The Catholic Verses\" (2004), \"The One-Minute Apologist\" (2007), \"Bible Proofs for Catholic Truths\" (2009), \"The Quotable Newman\" (editor: 2012), and \"Proving the Catholic Faith is Biblical\" (2015). He is co-author (with Dr. Paul Thigpen) of the inserts for \"The New Catholic Answer Bible\" (Our Sunday Visitor: 2005), and editor for \"The Wisdom of Mr. Chesterton: The Very Best Quotes, Quips, and Cracks from the Pen of G. K. Chesterton\" (Saint Benedict Press \/ TAN Books: 2009). \"100 Biblical Arguments Against Sola Scriptura\" was published by Catholic Answers in May 2012. His \"Quotable Wesley\" compilation was published by (Protestant \/ Wesleyan publisher) Beacon Hill Press in April 2014. Several of his 49 books are bestsellers in their field. Dave maintains a popular personal Facebook page, a Facebook author page, and has a Twitter account as well. He offers almost all of his books in e-book form on his own Biblical Catholicism site (http:\/\/biblicalcatholicism.com\/), at a permanent deep discount: only $2.99 for ePub, mobi, and AZW, and $1.99 for PDF. His writing has been enthusiastically endorsed or recommended by many leading Catholic apologists, authors, and priests, including Dr. Scott Hahn, Fr. Peter M. J. Stravinskas, Marcus Grodi, Patrick Madrid, Steve Ray, Tim Staples, Devin Rose, Mike Aquilina, Al Kresta, Karl Keating, Fr. Dwight Longenecker, Brandon Vogt, Marcellino D'Ambrosio, and Fr. John A. Hardon, S. J. Dave has been happily married to his wife Judy since October 1984. 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