{"id":5594,"date":"2013-02-07T00:53:17","date_gmt":"2013-02-07T00:53:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/?page_id=5594"},"modified":"2021-04-10T01:01:03","modified_gmt":"2021-04-10T01:01:03","slug":"the-apologists-handbook","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/the-apologists-handbook\/","title":{"rendered":"The Apologist&#8217;s Handbook"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>During the summer months of 2010, I had a long e-mail conversation, spanning many weeks and thousands of words, with a thoughtful, intelligent, but strongly committed conservative Christian named Daniel who came across my site. There was one exchange we had that I found illuminating and that stuck in my mind, and I want to discuss it in detail.<\/p>\n<p>I wrote that when atheists commit a misdeed, we can\u2019t just ask God for forgiveness; we have to seek out the people we\u2019ve harmed and try to make things right. Daniel contended that this was the Christian view as well:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThat\u2019s the way God originally set it up. You treat people the way you want to be treated. When you mess up, you tell them, ask them to forgive you, and then make reparations as a sign of true humility and repentance. Admittedly, to our shame, this is not how Christians portray forgiveness.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I followed up by asking, if this was true, what would happen to a person who repented on his deathbed and died without any opportunity to make reparations. Daniel answered as follows:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWould I say he is going to heaven? I wouldn\u2019t say at all. I would say that God will deal with him justly, and whatever God decides is what is right.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>These answers are completely inconsistent with each other. Either you believe that God requires people to make restitution, or you believe that you don\u2019t know God\u2019s criteria for judgment, but you can\u2019t believe both. It\u2019s not that no theology could ever be contrived to accommodate both scenarios, but that his claim to <i>know<\/i> that theology shifted from one moment to the next \u2013 going from certainty (\u201cThat\u2019s the way God originally set it up\u201d) to claiming humility and ignorance, depending on what argument he was currently addressing.<\/p>\n<p>What this exchange highlighted for me is this: Apologists through the ages have put enormous amounts of thought into resolving some of the moral and philosophical difficulties that arise from belief in Christianity. By now, their answers have been distilled into bumper-sticker-length talking points that most lay Christians can automatically quote in response to common challenges \u2013 a sort of unwritten handbook of Christian apologetics. But what\u2019s debatable is whether all those individual responses cohere with each other, as opposed to just serving the apologetic needs of the moment. As in the above example, I\u2019ve observed that you can ask a question and get the usual well-rehearsed answer, then ask another question and get a different stock answer that contradicts the first one. In other cases, there are two equally common answers to the same question that contradict each other.<\/p>\n<p>If Christianity was a coherent belief system that flowed from a consistent set of starting principles, this wouldn\u2019t happen. On the other hand, if religious belief comes first and then reasons justifying it are invented later, you\u2019d expect that these inconsistencies would arise. I think that in the majority of cases, it\u2019s the latter: even intelligent, well-read Christians are mainly coming up with ways to rationalize a belief they adopted for nonrational reasons.<\/p>\n<p>To that end, this essay will catalogue other contradictions like this, in order to highlight the inconsistencies in the apologist\u2019s handbook of replies to common objections. The point of this essay isn\u2019t to list Bible verses that contradict each other \u2013 those are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/foundation-of-sand\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">covered elsewhere<\/a>. Nor is it to list beliefs that different Christian sects disagree about, like the necessity of infant baptism or whether transubstantiation is somehow real or merely symbolic. Rather, it\u2019s to list apologetic arguments that are used by apologists across many different Christian denominations, but which conflict with other arguments that have similarly widespread usage. If you see a theist using one of these arguments, point them to the other one and ask if they believe it as well!<\/p>\n<p>I first posted about this subject on Daylight Atheism, asking commenters to supply their favorite examples of contradictory apologetics. Many of the examples in this essay are drawn from their contributions, which are credited where appropriate.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li> <a href=\"#faithvirtue\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Is Faith a Virtue?<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#experiences\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Does God Give Believers Supernatural Experiences?<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#freewill\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Proof of God and Free Will<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#goodness\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">God\u2019s Goodness<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#science\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Does Faith Need Science?<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#scienceorigin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Did Science Arise From Religion?<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#infallibility\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Is the Bible Infallible?<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#purpose\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">God\u2019s Purpose for Creation<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#finetuning\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Cosmic Fine-Tuning<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#prayer\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Intercessory Prayer<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#relativism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Moral Relativism<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#conscience\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">The Sense of Conscience<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#equality\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Human Equality<\/a><\/li>\n<li> <a href=\"#evil\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Preventing Evil<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><a name=\"faithvirtue\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Is Faith a Virtue?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cFaith is a wonderful and important virtue that all humans should have more of.\u201d<br>\n\u201cAtheism is just like a religion and atheists have faith that no god exists.\u201d <\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Religious apologists consider faith one of the chief virtues, a beneficial trait that God desires to instill in humankind (1 Corinthians 13:13). Some go so far as to call it \u201cthe foundational virtue of all Christian belief\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.orthodoxytoday.org\/articles8\/Prebble-The-Theological-Virtue-Of-Faith.php\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">source<\/a>), and believers frequently offer prayers such as, \u201cLord, increase my faith.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But when dealing with atheists, they change their tune. Often, the apologists declare that atheism is based on faith \u2013 and that this is a <i>bad thing<\/i>. Evangelists write books with titles like <i>I Don\u2019t Have Enough Faith to Be An Atheist<\/i>, accuse atheists of putting their faith in science rather than God, and even assert that atheism requires <i>more<\/i> faith than their religion does (<a href=\"http:\/\/townhall.com\/columnists\/davidlimbaugh\/2004\/04\/20\/does_atheism_require_more_faith\/page\/full\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here\u2019s one example<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Now, if they really believed that faith was a virtue, then for them to say that atheism was based in faith would be a great compliment. But when they say things like this, they clearly don\u2019t mean them as praise! They\u2019re obviously intended to be criticism, but for that to be true, the people making these statements must believe that faith is bad or that we should seek to have as little faith as possible.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nTheists will talk about how wonderful and important and precious \u2018faith\u2019 is.<br>\nThen they\u2019ll complain about idiots like the Birthers or 9\/11 Conspiracy nuts who believe nonsense for which there\u2019s no evidence!<br>\n\u2014<b>Ben<\/b>, from Daylight Atheism\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"experiences\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Does God Give Believers Supernatural Experiences?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cIf you believe in God, he\u2019ll always be by your side, and you\u2019ll always have his comforting presence.\u201d<br>\n\u201cGod deliberately withdraws himself from believers in order to test and purify their faith.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Countless evangelical books and tracts promise that, for those who choose to put their faith in Christianity, God will always be by their side, filling their lives and hearts with the light of his presence, and will never abandon them. The most cliched example is the glurge poem, \u201cFootprints\u201d. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.charismamag.com\/index.php\/atheist-central\/29721-christian-leaders-leaning-towards-atheism-\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Ray Comfort<\/a> also cited this \u201cfact\u201d as proof that anyone who deconverts must never have been a believer in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>But at other times, Christians say something different \u2013 that God often withdraws entirely from believers, leaving them bereft of his presence, to test and strengthen their faith. This apologetic crosses denominational lines: for example, C.S. Lewis wrote in <i>The Screwtape Letters<\/i> that \u201cSooner or later, He withdraws, if not in fact, at least from their conscious experiences, all those peaks and incentives\u201d. More famously, Mother Teresa\u2019s posthumously published memoirs revealed that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daylightatheism.org\/2007\/08\/mother-teresas-loss-of-faith.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">she lost her faith fifty years prior to her death and spent the rest of her life in a state of misery and depression<\/a> \u2013 which she and her church superiors rationalized by saying that God had deliberately withdrawn from her life to grant her the privilege of suffering like Jesus suffered.<\/p>\n<p>From Daylight Atheism commenters:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod will always sustain you in times of trouble.<br>\nIf you feel abandoned in times of trouble, God is testing you, like Job.<br>\n\u2014<b>arensb<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe road to heaven is narrow and difficult (and often has a lot of sacrifice)<br>\nIt is easy to follow\/love god<br>\n\u2014<b>Abeille<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"freewill\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Proof of God and Free Will<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cGod could give indisputable proof of his existence, but won\u2019t because that would take away humans\u2019 free will to believe or disbelieve.\u201d<br>\n\u201cGod\u2019s existence is indisputably seen in nature, and those who disbelieve are without excuse.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>When atheists ask why God doesn\u2019t just <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/one-more-burning-bush\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">make his existence obvious<\/a> and clearly speak to humanity to convey his wishes, the most common apologetic answer is that God values our free will, and that for him to give conclusive proof of his existence would violate our freedom to believe or disbelieve as we wish. (This argument requires overlooking the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/a-modern-day-doubting-thomas\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">biblical stories where God dramatically manifests himself to nonbelievers<\/a>, but never mind that.)<\/p>\n<p>But this argument runs smack into another trope often used by apologists, one based directly on a biblical verse: that God\u2019s existence <i>is<\/i> clear and obvious from nature, and that those who disbelieve are \u201cwithout excuse\u201d (Romans 1:20). Even more confusingly, some Christians say that God grants demons and false prophets the power to perform deceptive miracles (\u201csigns and lying wonders\u201d \u20142 Thessalonians 2:9) to test humanity\u2019s faith and encourage them to believe lies! If it would violate human free will for God to do miracles in front of us, doesn\u2019t it also violate our free will for him to let tricksters do them?<\/p>\n<p>Both of these arguments can\u2019t be true. If God wants to preserve our free will by leaving his existence uncertain, then the Bible must be wrong when it says there\u2019s no way to honestly fail to believe in God. If it\u2019s true that God\u2019s existence is undeniable, then Christians must believe that human free will has already been thoroughly violated.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod doesn\u2019t want to give us convincing evidence of his existence because it would take away our free will to believe.<br>\nYou are being misled by Satan (a character in our beliefs who has full knowledge of God\u2019s existence, absolute power, and still has the free will to flip god off).<br>\n\u2014<b>Valerie<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"goodness\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>God\u2019s Goodness<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cGod is perfectly good and always wants the best for us.\u201d<br>\n\u201cGod\u2019s ways are not our ways and he is infinitely beyond our ability to judge.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A core principle of monotheistic religions is that God is absolutely good, loving, and benevolent towards humanity. Yet as the omnipotent creator of the world, God must also bear responsibility for hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, viruses, plagues, and other natural disasters that cause tremendous death and suffering among human beings. Creating these evils would seem to be the act of a malevolent being, not a morally good one. But when atheists point this out, theists readily offer the rejoinder that God has his own mysterious reasons which we don\u2019t know, so we can\u2019t judge him.<\/p>\n<p>But rarely do they realize that, by using this defense, they logically must abandon their belief that God is good. Judging someone to be good, just like judging them to be evil, requires at least <i>some<\/i> understanding of their motives and intent, and that\u2019s precisely what Christians say we don\u2019t have in this case. If we don\u2019t know why God acts as he does, then there\u2019s no way we can conclude that he\u2019s good!<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nOur God, some contend, is immutable,<br>\nAnd their faith is, indeed, irrefutable:<br>\nWhen He does what He should,<br>\nIt\u2019s because \u201cHe is good,\u201d<br>\nWhen he doesn\u2019t, \u201cHis ways are inscrutable.\u201d<br>\n\u2014<b>RedKing<\/b> (quote originally from Laurence Perrine)\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nThey always seem to know the mind of God, while simultaneously proclaiming that we cannot know the mind of God.<br>\n\u2014<b>Jetson<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"science\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Does Faith Need Science?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cFaith isn\u2019t based on scientific proof; science has nothing to say about the existence of God.\u201d<br>\n\u201cScience makes faith more plausible by offering evidence for the existence of God.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Religious evangelists have a profoundly fractured and inconsistent view of science. On one hand, they proclaim that religious faith isn\u2019t based on science, doesn\u2019t need science to sustain it, and that science by definition can say nothing whatsoever about the existence or nonexistence of God. (This usually happens when scientific evidence undercuts a historical tenet of their religion, such as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/let-the-stones-speak-preface\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">archaeology failing to confirm the events of the Old Testament<\/a>, or genetic studies not finding a link between Native Americans and Israelites as the Book of Mormon posits. See also the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/why-creationism-isnt-science\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">creationist statements of faith<\/a> in which they vow to reject any scientific evidence that contradicts their beliefs.)<\/p>\n<p>But on the other hand, when some discovery is made that lends support to one of their doctrines, they pounce eagerly on it and loudly proclaim that it proves the truth of their faith. The Shroud of Turin is a classic example, as was the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daylightatheism.org\/2007\/12\/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-james-ossuary.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">James Ossuary<\/a> that captured Christians\u2019 attention until it was shown to be an elaborately orchestrated fraud. Even something as tenuous as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/god-in-a-coffee-stain\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">pareidolic images of religious figures in mundane objects<\/a> often become focal points of devotion and veneration. If evidence was <i>truly<\/i> irrelevant to faith, religious believers would treat these discoveries with the same disinterest and disdain they reserve for disconfirming facts. That this doesn\u2019t happen in real life shows that they\u2019re more eager for scientific proof than they like to admit.<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s not just uneducated lay believers who do this. Even allegedly sophisticated theologians and religious scientists display this obvious inconsistency: like the theologian John Haught, who\u2019s indignant at the \u201cabuse\u201d of science by atheists who claim scientific findings support a godless universe, but who cheerily turns around and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daylightatheism.org\/2008\/03\/further-thoughts-on-john-haught.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">proclaims that scientific investigation supports a purposeful universe<\/a>. Francis Collins, director of the Human Genome Project, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daylightatheism.org\/2007\/09\/francis-collins-on-atheism.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">does the same<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThey often say that their beliefs aren\u2019t based on science and scientific discoveries are irrelevant, but when something comes up that they think supports their position they jump all over it.<br>\n\u2014<b>Penguin_Factory<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod is beyond scientific investigation.<br>\nHere\u2019s a bunch of scientific evidence for God.<br>\n\u2014<b>arensb<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\n\u2026something to the effect of \u2018Faith is the greatest of all virtues\u2019 coupled with \u2018Design! Everywhere! DNA is so complex! Obviously it\u2019s God!\u2019 and any other arguments which rely explicitly on the empirical world (anthropic principle, teleological arguments etc). I think it\u2019s funny that faith is touted to be so amazing but the moment an apologist can find \u2018evidence\u2019 or \u2018proof\u2019 of God they latch on and beat their chests with it (not with the evidence, with pride {and really, not with pride, but with their fists, in a metaphorical way}).<br>\n\u2014<b>Locke\u2019s Compass<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"scienceorigin\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Did Science Arise From Religion?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><br>\n\u201cChristianity deserves the credit for inventing science because it introduced the assumption of uniform natural law.\u201d<br>\n\u201cThe assumption of uniform natural law is contrary to Christianity and is only made by dogmatic atheists.\u201d<br>\n<\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Although some of the contradictions discussed in this essay are common to evangelistic religions, this one tends to be specific to Christianity. On one hand, believers praise science as the offspring of Christian principles. In any discussion of the Enlightenment, for example, you\u2019ll find apologists who claim that it was medieval theologians who conceived of God as a Cosmic Watchmaker, presiding over an orderly and lawful universe built with the precision of a vast clockwork, and that this idea laid the conceptual foundations for science and thus that all subsequent scientific advances are owed in some sense to Christianity.<\/p>\n<p>Ironic, then, that other believers complain so bitterly about this idea. Often creationists, though not always, the members of <i>this<\/i> group say that assuming a seamless weave of natural law \u2013 an assumption which scientists do and must make \u2013 amounts to atheism and to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/naturalism-in-science\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">unfairly rejecting miraculous explanations in advance<\/a>. They say instead that science should admit the possibility of the miraculous \u2013 but if scientists <i>now<\/i> don\u2019t make that assumption, and if this is unfair and atheistic, then science as we know it can hardly be credited to religion.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nModern science should really be credited to Christianity, and its doctrine that the universe is orderly and obeys comprehensible laws.<br>\nThe doctrine that the universe is orderly and obeys comprehensible laws is naturalistic dogmatic scientism which rules out miracles a priori.<br>\n<b>\u2014heiro5ant<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"infallibility\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Is the Bible Infallible?<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cThe Bible is God\u2019s word and is infallible.\u201d<br>\n\u201cThe Bible is infallible only in its original manuscripts, which no longer exist.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>We constantly hear from religious leaders that the Bible is infallible, incomparable to any other book, perfectly without error in all its teachings and the history it relates. This claim sounds good to people who don\u2019t know much about the Bible, but knowledgeable atheists and biblical scholars can readily point to a huge number of logical and historical contradictions, as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/a-book-of-blood\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">savage laws and other atrocities<\/a> that seem unlikely to be the product of revelation from a benevolent and loving author.<\/p>\n<p>When presented with this evidence, sometimes the apologists will cling to inerrancy in the face of it and invent explanations that rely on contorted reinterpretations and retroactively changing the meaning of common words. But sometimes, they\u2019ll retreat to saying that they believe only that the <i>original manuscripts<\/i> of the Bible were inerrant, but since then, errors and divergences have been introduced by human copyists. They treat this as if it were only a slightly modified version of the original claim, but in fact, it\u2019s a completely different claim. <\/p>\n<p>Since no original manuscripts of the Bible exist, no one can know what they said or how much they differed from the texts we have now, even the very earliest of which are copies many generations removed from the originals. And since the copies we possess are <i>not<\/i> originals, but have been changed in an unknown number of times and ways, the only conclusion is that the Bible we have \u2013 the one that believers rely upon, the one that they use for guidance and treat as the basis of their faith \u2013 is not infallible, and may in fact be wrong about important details.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n\u2026the Bible is God\u2019s word and should be treated as, well, as gospel; except when there are contradictions, in which case mere humans had a lot of editorial control.<br>\n\u2014<a href=\"http:\/\/secularhumanist.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/have-you-ever-watched-movie-where-some.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/secularhumanist.blogspot.com\/2011\/01\/have-you-ever-watched-movie-where-some.html<\/a>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"purpose\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>God\u2019s Purpose for Creation<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cGod\u2019s purpose for creation was to share his love with humanity.\u201d<br>\n\u201cGod\u2019s purpose for creation was to glorify himself.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If asked, \u201cWhy did God create the universe?\u201d, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.craigntammy.com\/blog\/craig\/why_did_god_create_man\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">common<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ucg.org\/bsc\/03\/greatpurpose.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">theist answer<\/a> is that it was for our sake. God is perfectly self-sufficient and needs nothing, but in his selfless charity, he freely chose to create a cosmos which he intended to be peopled with intelligent beings who would love him, share in his goodness, and enjoy the bounty of all the infinite riches he has to offer them. As <a href=\"http:\/\/ldolphin.org\/CSLtrinity.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">C.S. Lewis asserted<\/a>, \u201cthe Church exists for nothing else but to draw men into Christ, to make them little Christs\u2026 God became Man for no other purpose. It is even doubtful, you know, whether the whole universe was created for any other purpose.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But if you probe a little deeper \u2013 such as by bringing up the <a href=\"http:\/\/skepticsannotatedbible.com\/mt\/7.html#13\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">infamous verse<\/a> from the Bible which strongly implies that most human beings are going to Hell \u2013 you may hear a very different and far more sinister answer. This one says that God\u2019s purpose for creating the universe wasn\u2019t to have fellowship with humanity, but to \u201cglorify\u201d himself \u2013 in other words, God created humans because he wanted to have someone to show off his power to, and any means of showing off that power will do equally well. Under this morally deranged theology, the saved glorify God by worshipping him and giving him an opportunity to show how richly he rewards true believers. But the damned <i>also<\/i> glorify God by showing how viciously and mercilessly he can torture people who won\u2019t do as he demands. <a href=\"http:\/\/pilgrimchristian.blogspot.com\/2006\/03\/romans-chapter-nine.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">This site<\/a> quotes the theologian J.M. Boice in support of this view: \u201cEvery person who has ever lived or will ever live must glorify God, either actively or passively, either willingly or unwillingly, either in heaven or in hell. You will glorify God. Either you will glorify him as the object of his mercy and glory, which will be seen in you. Or you will glorify him in your rebellion and unbelief by being made the object of his wrath and power at the final judgment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These apologetics conflict because they make different claims about what end fulfills God\u2019s purpose for creating humanity. One says that God\u2019s purpose is served only by humans attaining salvation; the other says that God\u2019s purpose is served equally well by humans being eternally condemned. <\/p>\n<p><a name=\"finetuning\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Cosmic Fine-Tuning<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cThe laws of nature are fine-tuned to make the existence of life possible.\u201d<br>\n\u201cThe existence of life is impossible without supernatural intervention in nature.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>An argument often made by creationists is that the laws of nature show an uncanny degree of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/unmoved-mover\/#fine-tuning\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">fine-tuning<\/a>, permitting life to exist and flourish where even the tiniest change in the physical laws and constants would have produced a lifeless universe. This, they say, is evidence of a cosmic designer carefully twiddling the knobs of reality to produce the universe he had in mind.<\/p>\n<p>But on the other hand, when it comes to origin-of-life research, creationists are often heard to claim that abiogenesis is such an intrinsically improbable event that it couldn\u2019t possibly have happened on its own, and must have required a divine hand to suspend the laws of nature and create life miraculously. But what about this supposedly fine-tuned universe? If the laws of nature are so precisely tweaked as to permit life to exist, why isn\u2019t it also possible, even likely, that they were set up to permit life to emerge naturally under those same laws?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe laws of the universe are exquisitely fine-tuned for biological life.<br>\nThe laws of the universe are structured in such a way as to require their miraculous suspension in order to get biological life.<br>\n\u2014<b>heiro5ant<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nThe universe is fine tuned for life.<br>\nThe conditions for life to come about on their own are so small God had to intervene supernaturally.<br>\n\u2014<b>Daniel<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"prayer\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Intercessory Prayer<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cIntercessory prayer is potent and effective in bringing about desired results.\u201d<br>\n\u201cPrayers will be answered only when they\u2019re in accord with God\u2019s unknowable will.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Religious scriptures and evangelists trumpet the benefits of prayer, promising that God answers petitions made with a sincere and humble heart. They\u2019re not shy about promising that God will grant marvelous boons to people who pray \u2013 whether they be healing, wealth, love, or happiness \u2013 and Christian websites even maintain <a href=\"http:\/\/www.2christ.org\/prayer\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">lists of answered prayers<\/a>, making it seem as if miraculous responses to prayer are common.<\/p>\n<p>But <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daylightatheism.org\/2009\/12\/when-prayer-fails.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">when prayer fails<\/a> to bring about the desired result, these apologists sing a different tune. They say that God may have fulfilled the request, just not in the time or in the manner we expect; that God doesn\u2019t answer requests that aren\u2019t what we really need; that God only answers prayers that are in accord with his mysterious plan; that \u201cGod always answers prayers, but <a href=\"http:\/\/www.anointedlinks.com\/miracle_answer.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">sometimes the answer is no<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>These two theologies are inconsistent with each other. If it\u2019s true that God won\u2019t answer prayers that aren\u2019t in accord with his will, preachers shouldn\u2019t be making extravagant promises about the efficacy of prayer to bring about miraculous results. At most, they should be saying that God <i>occasionally<\/i> answers prayers, if those prayers agree with what he was going to do anyway \u2013 and since God clearly doesn\u2019t consider disaster, mass death, unrequited evil, and vast human suffering to be inconsistent with his ineffable plan, the odds are that prayers asking for relief from those things won\u2019t be granted.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWe should always intercede for what seems like the desirable outcome for someone (healing, health\/wealth improvement, etc.)<br>\nGod sometimes says no because there is a better outcome to be had if such apparently desirable outcomes are not obtained.<br>\nTo be consistent, you should never pray for any specific outcome. Just pray, \u201cGod, I hope what you want to happen\u2026 happens.\u201d The inconsistency is assuming that it\u2019s good to pray for apparently \u201cgood\u201d things (by our standards) when you might be praying for an outcome that could hinder someone\u2019s heaven-boundness.<br>\n\u2014<b>Hendy<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod works in mysterious ways that can not be predicted.<br>\nPrayer works.<br>\n\u2014<b>Quath<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nHere\u2019s a condensed version of a conversation I once had with a believer:<br>\nBeliever: \u201cI prayed that my son would get a job, and he got a job. God worked a miracle!\u201d<br>\nMe: \u201cPeople get jobs every day. That\u2019s not a miracle. Here\u2019s a miracle that would convince me: If God resurrected the World Trade Center towers, exactly as they were before Sept 11, 2001, along with all the thousands of people murdered there that day, I would believe in God.\u201d<br>\nBeliever: \u201cGod doesn\u2019t do magic tricks.\u201d<br>\n\u2014<b>jack<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"relativism\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Moral Relativism<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cThe moral commands in the Bible are absolutely true and apply to all humanity.\u201d<br>\n\u201cSome of the moral commands in the Bible were intended only for people at a specific time and place.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Especially among conservative believers, who claim to draw their morals exclusively from the Bible, you\u2019ll hear preachers thunder against the evils of moral relativism. The general thrust of their complaints is that the Bible is God\u2019s perfect and infallible guide for human behavior, the only such guide whose rules apply to all people at all places and times. If we depart from its commandments in any way, they fear we\u2019ll no longer have an absolute standard by which to judge the morality of any action. We\u2019ll have to believe that good and evil are defined solely by the standards of the culture we live in, and bloodshed, chaos and anarchy will be the inevitable result.<\/p>\n<p>But that, as usual, is only half the story. People who\u2019ve actually <i>read<\/i> the Bible know that it\u2019s far more morally ambiguous. Mixed in with laws against male homosexuality, which modern Christians adore, are other equally clear and explicit laws \u2013 against tattooing, against wearing mixed fabrics, against eating shellfish, against allowing the handicapped in church \u2013 which they habitually ignore. Other verses \u2013 such as the ones where Old Testament heroes take multiple wives and concubines, with no indication of disapproval by God \u2013 flatly contradict the standards that today\u2019s Christian right would like us all to conduct ourselves by. And still other verses, such as the ones where God orders his followers to bloodily slaughter the Canaanites, are indefensible by any reasonable moral standard.<\/p>\n<p>How do the apologists deal with this? In some cases, such as the Old Testament purity laws, they say that these are merely \u201cceremonial\u201d rules, meant only to foreshadow the coming of Jesus, and that modern Christians can safely disregard them. Another popular excuse is that different ages of human history belong to different \u201cdispensations\u201d, and each dispensation had its own rules which apply only to the people who lived at that time, thus explaining biblical slavery, polygamy, and holy wars.<\/p>\n<p>But if this is the case, the Bible does <i>not<\/i> contain one set of moral laws that apply to everyone; it contains multiple sets of moral laws that are inconsistent with each other, and which one applies to you depends on when you lived and which culture you lived in. And isn\u2019t that view the very definition of moral relativism?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod\u2019s moral teachings [as described in the Bible] apply to all people, places, and times.<br>\nOh, that [usually Old Testament but not always] was just their custom. We live in a different society now.<br>\n\u2014<b>Roi des Faux<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod is eternal and unchanging. What he says is true yesterday, today, and forever.<br>\nWhat the Old Testament says about slavery, genocide, and the subjugation of women holds for that culture at that time. It doesn\u2019t apply to us today.<br>\n\u2014<b>arensb<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"conscience\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>The Sense of Conscience<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cAll human beings have an innate conscience that tells them the difference between right and wrong.\u201d<br>\n\u201cWithout the morality in the Bible, humanity wouldn\u2019t be able to tell the difference between right and wrong.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Related to the previous point, it\u2019s often said by apologists that human beings have an inherent sense of right and wrong, one that transcends culture and relies on no experience or moral education. This claim forms the basis for one of the most popular pro-theist arguments, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/essays\/unmoved-mover\/#moral\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">moral argument<\/a> for God\u2019s existence, which holds that only a creator who was himself a moral being could or would have instilled this sense of conscience in us.<\/p>\n<p>But if human beings already know the difference between good and evil, what do we need religion for? Why do churches and missionaries spend so much money and exert such enormous effort just to tell us all what we already know? It\u2019s at this point that apologists switch to a contradictory argument: that the Bible is necessary to be a moral guide, that it\u2019s the \u201conly source to which we can turn to identify properly matters that are good or evil\u201d (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ugcoc.org\/General\/Woe%20unto%20Them.htm\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">source<\/a>), and that without following its commandments we\u2019d be hopelessly lost. Believers who say this react with horror at the idea of humans becoming \u201ca law unto ourselves\u201d \u2013 except that, if we all have this universal sense of conscience, that\u2019s exactly what we <i>should<\/i> be capable of.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod gave us absolute morality which is expressed in the natural law all around us.<br>\nWithout religion, no one would know what is moral.<br>\n\u2014<b>Teleprompter<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"equality\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Human Equality<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cGod treats all human beings as equals, showing no favoritism or partiality.\u201d<br>\n\u201cMen are the image of God, while women are the image of men. Therefore men should have all power and authority and women should graciously submit to their leadership.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Christians boast as one of their proudest points that God shows no partiality and that \u201cthere is neither male nor female, slave nor free\u201d among believers, that all are equally precious in his sight. They\u2019re not alone in this, either. Most world religions proclaim the equality of all members of their community of faith: among Muslims, it\u2019s the believing community, the <i>ummah<\/i>, drawn from every culture and nation.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s one vast inequality that\u2019s sanctioned by all these religions: the unequal treatment of men and women. The oppression and mistreatment of women is a constant throughout history, even among religions that otherwise have little or nothing in common. <\/p>\n<p>In some religions, like Islam, <a href='https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/library\/mormonism' target='_blank'>Mormonism<\/a> and Orthodox Judaism, women are barred from the clergy altogether. In others, like Roman Catholicism, they\u2019re permitted to join the lowest ranks of the hierarchy but not to create any new doctrine; their only role is to pass on doctrine created by men. In still others, like conservative branches of Anglicanism, they can only create doctrine that applies to women, and no male believer can be subject to them if he doesn\u2019t choose to be. <\/p>\n<p>Anti-woman discrimination pervades these religions, from the highest levels of the hierarchy to ordinary domestic life, where women are expected to submit to men in all things: first their father, then their husband. In the most patriarchal faiths, women are strongly discouraged or outright forbidden to seek an education or a job, the better to keep them perpetually dependent on first their father and then their husband \u2013 as if women were a kind of property that could be passed off from one man to another.<\/p>\n<p>The apologists of patriarchy try to put a cheery gloss on this by saying that God gives men and women different roles to play in life, and it just so happens that one gender\u2019s role is to lead and the other\u2019s is to obey. This, for the record, was exactly the same argument used by slaveholders with regard to the races. Even if you believe that men and women have differing roles in life, it\u2019s obviously a self-serving lie for the members of one gender to claim that they control <i>all<\/i> power and authority. Wouldn\u2019t it make more sense, even given this opinion, for men and women to each exercise authority over <i>different<\/i> areas of everyday life?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\nWomen should submit to their husbands.<br>\nMen and women are equal.<br>\n\u2014<b>Quath<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>\nGod loves everyone, men and women, and does not favor discrimination.<br>\nThe husband is the head of the household.<br>\n\u2014<b>Sharmin<\/b>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a name=\"evil\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><\/a><b>Preventing Evil<\/b><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n<i>\u201cGod allows evil and suffering as an end to a greater good.\u201d<br>\n\u201cGod wants us to work to stop evil and suffering.\u201d<\/i>\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One of the most common apologetics for the atheist argument from evil is that all the seemingly purposeless suffering in the world is really part of God\u2019s plan, and will in the fullness of time lead to a much greater good. We can\u2019t know in advance what that good is, according to the theologians, but they assure us that it <i>must<\/i> exist and that it couldn\u2019t have been achieved without all this suffering, and when it arrives we\u2019ll see that God was fully justified in permitting evil to continue unchecked for thousands of years.<\/p>\n<p>But on the other hand, these same theologians claim that alleviating suffering is a moral duty of humankind. They say that God commands us to see that the hungry are fed and the naked are clothed, that we use medical science to heal the sick, that war and natural disasters are averted, and that we establish a just society where criminals are deterred and the innocent are protected by fair laws.<\/p>\n<p>These two statements can\u2019t both be true, because if evil is a necessity in God\u2019s plan, then aren\u2019t we working in direct opposition to God\u2019s plan by trying to stop it? Doesn\u2019t every act of charity or compassion interfere with that unknown far-future good by preventing whatever specific instance of evil God allowed as part of his mysterious plan? Don\u2019t we run the risk of being too successful at eradicating evil, thus missing out on whatever greater good God had planned for us? <\/p>\n<p>This contradiction exists no matter what theodicy you choose. If evil is God\u2019s punishment for people\u2019s sin, then by helping those who suffer, we\u2019re enabling them to escape their just desserts. If evil is God\u2019s way of testing us, then outside interference ruins the test. If evil is God\u2019s way of strengthening our character, then helping the needy prevents them from developing the strong character God wanted them to have. <\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>During the summer months of 2010, I had a long e-mail conversation, spanning many weeks and thousands of words, with a thoughtful, intelligent, but strongly committed conservative Christian named Daniel who came across my site. 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