{"id":9748,"date":"2015-04-25T16:44:05","date_gmt":"2015-04-25T16:44:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/?page_id=9748"},"modified":"2015-04-25T16:44:05","modified_gmt":"2015-04-25T16:44:05","slug":"ii-x-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/series\/atlas-shrugged\/the-cobra-commander-dialogues\/ii-x-2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Cobra Commander Dialogues: II.X.2"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><i>Originally posted on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/daylightatheism\/2015\/02\/atlas-shrugged-sixteen-tons\/#comment-1878970346\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Atlas Shrugged: Sixteen Tons<\/a>.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>Tramp:<\/b> Take that!<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Sorry what?<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> Well he just gave a big speech, didn\u2019t he?<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> And your point being?<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Well that\u2019s the most sure way to defeat villains isn\u2019t it?<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Yeah no not really.<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> B-but\u2026 I explained why communism doesn\u2019t work!<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Right and\u2026 considering I\u2019m a tyrant and not a communist\u2026 doesn\u2019t really mean anything to me?<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> You have to agree with us now though, right, that communism is a bad thing.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Ugh look\u2026 I\u2019m here to rob you guys, not get into debates about the merits of various socio-economic systems.<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Because you know by doing so you\u2019ll be defeated by us!<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> No! Because converting one capitalist company to a communist one in the midst of a broader capitalist system doesn\u2019t really prove much of anything.<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> It proves everything, like how helping other people is bad and being selfish is good except when it\u2019s bad which is when you lie about being selfish!<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Look the vast majority of businesses fail, and all fail eventually. Does every capitalist business that\u2019s ever crashed prove that capitalism is bad?<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> It proves capitalism is great!<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> Right, because obviously those businesses had bad people working for them or they would have survived.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Shockingly I\u2019ve noticed that you guys never seem to address the customer or the market in your talks about the failure or success of businesses\u2026<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> The what now?<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> You know, the people buying your products?<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> I\u2019m sorry who?<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Right\u2026 forgot the kind of people I was talking with for a second\u2026 Anyway you\u2019ve admitted everyone at your company was willing to lie and backstab one another so I\u2019m not sure how healthy a work environment it could have been. I mean yes most of the people who work under me are willing to lie and backstab one another but we are a ruthless terrorist organization so that kind of goes with the territory.<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Ah but see as long as we were willing to do such shady and underhanded things in service of capitalism we were golden!<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> Yes as I said it\u2019s when selfishness is turned to the evil of helping one another that it becomes perverted into a twisted bad kind of selfishness that causes the collapse of everyone, as opposed to a healthy selfishness that causes the collapse of everyone.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Wait what? I\u2026 look you\u2019re basically saying everyone gets screwed over in either system aren\u2019t you?<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Oh of course.<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> Oh absolutely, everyone is pretty much horrible it\u2019s just that in my preferred system I\u2019m one of the people who cashes out in the end.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Wow\u2026 what a horribly cynical view of the world\u2026 and man I really hate you guys for actually making ME say that.<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> Aha! We\u2019re weakening him!<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Indeed!<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Okay but wasn\u2019t the whole point of this dang speech to get to the whole John Galt thing?<br>\n<b>Tramp:<\/b> Oh yeah I forgot to mention I just knew a guy named John Galt who talked about destroying the world and he disappeared so I wonder if it might have been him.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> You\u2026 hold on a sec\u2026 you\u2019ve heard people mention the guy destroying the world is named \u2018John Galt\u2019, and you\u2019re not sure if the guy you knew\u2026 who talked about destroying the world and was named \u2018John Galt\u2019\u2026 is the same guy?<br>\n<b>Dagny:<\/b> A compelling theory I must admit.<br>\n<b>Cobra Commander:<\/b> Oh I think I\u2019m starting to understand how this world fell apart so easily if these are the best and the brightest it has to offer\u2026<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Originally posted on Atlas Shrugged: Sixteen Tons. Tramp: Take that! Cobra Commander: Sorry what? Dagny: Well he just gave a big speech, didn\u2019t he? Cobra Commander: And your point being? Tramp: Well that\u2019s the most sure way to defeat villains isn\u2019t it? Cobra Commander: Yeah no not really. Tramp: B-but\u2026 I explained why communism doesn\u2019t [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1308,"featured_media":0,"parent":9712,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-9748","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Cobra Commander Dialogues: II.X.2 - Daylight Atheism<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Originally posted on Atlas Shrugged: Sixteen Tons. Tramp: Take that! Cobra Commander: Sorry what? Dagny: Well he just gave a big speech, didn&#039;t he? 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