{"id":11394,"date":"2012-03-05T18:32:05","date_gmt":"2012-03-06T00:32:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/?p=11394"},"modified":"2016-09-30T17:24:23","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T21:24:23","slug":"in-the-e-mail-i-was-raised-catholic-but-have-fallen-out-of-the-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/2012\/03\/in-the-e-mail-i-was-raised-catholic-but-have-fallen-out-of-the-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"In the e-mail: &#8220;I was raised Catholic, but have fallen out of the faith&#8230;&#8221; &#8212; UPDATED"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>A reader posted this as a comment but I thought I\u2019d put it here for wider discussion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hi, I stumbled onto this sight [sic] because I have a question.  This isn\u2019t  terribly related to the topic at hand, but it looks like people here may  have some insight.  I was raised Catholic, but, as someone put above,  have \u201cfallen out of faith\u201d.  That is not the issue here, so please leave  it be.  I am engaged to a man who is not baptized, and we are in the  planning stages of our wedding.<\/p>\n<p>My issue is that my father, whom I love very much, is in formation (is  that right?) to become a deacon in the Catholic Church.  Short of having  it in a Catholic Church (which isn\u2019t going to happen), what needs to be  done so that he will be able to attend AND walk me down the aisle?  The  idea of my parents not attending my wedding is causing me a fair bit of  anxiety, but I need to know if it is simply inevitable.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is obviously a painful and complicated situation.<\/p>\n<p>From my perspective, I\u2019m not sure there\u2019s anything the bride herself can do to change things \u2014 short of having a conversion of heart and a Catholic wedding.\u00a0 (I\u2019d have a few questions of my own first: have you talked to your parents about this decision?\u00a0 A Catholic priest?)<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s really, I think, a greater challenge for her mother and father, who have to prayerfully consider all the options available, the consequences involved, and perhaps seek some spiritual direction before making a decision.\u00a0\u00a0 Every family is different. Every circumstance is different.<\/p>\n<p>But I don\u2019t think there\u2019s an easy solution.<\/p>\n<p>Any thoughts?<\/p>\n<p>Full disclosure and fair warning: be constructive and answer, please, with charity.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE<\/strong>: A solution, from Deacon Mike in the comments:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This happens quite often. All that has to happen is for the bride to  approach her local parish priest and get the necessary dispensation. If  she did that, which is very easy, then there would be no conflict of  interest for her father. A Catholic may marry a non baptized person  outside of a church ceremony so long as they have the proper  dispensations from the bishop. It would be a valid but non sacramental  marriage. The only question is whether or not the bride would be willing  to approach her parish priest and ask for the dispensations. If she did  that then all is well.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>UPDATE II: <\/strong>From another deacon in the comments:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Having lived this situation, I chose to attend my son\u2019s wedding. At the wedding reception, as his father, I blessed him and his lovely bride, wishing them joy and happiness upon their vows in covenant of marriage. And all enjoyed themselves at their celebration.<\/p>\n<p>In formation it was continually stressed three priorities in this order: Faith in God, Family unity, and vocation lived out in the diaconal ministry. The deacon candidate should see his daughter for what she is, his flesh and blood, a great gift from God, and an adult. He should honor her wishes, and gently suggest she seek a dispensation as noted above. Still if she persists in not having any relationship with the Church, he should graciously accept it, and participate in the wedding. It will matter greatly in the future for him to have done so. I doubt walking her down the aisle will cause a public scandal. It is a sign of his fatherly love. So I suggest that daughter and father should pray together for unity, trusting in God\u2019s Providential help.<\/p>\n<p>Note, 7 years later, I still pray for my son and daughter-in-law to heal their disaffection with the Catholic Church, but it doesn\u2019t stop us from having an engaging and loving relationship. God will mend all fractures and disunity in His time if we accept his healing graces (though, frustrating, it is rarely the same as our time.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A reader posted this as a comment but I thought I\u2019d put it here for wider discussion: Hi, I stumbled onto this sight [sic] because I have a question. This isn\u2019t terribly related to the topic at hand, but it looks like people here may have some insight. 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