{"id":15087,"date":"2012-07-08T13:39:39","date_gmt":"2012-07-08T19:39:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/?p=15087"},"modified":"2016-09-30T17:06:26","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T21:06:26","slug":"are-the-episcopalians-really-about-to-approve-transgender-ordinations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/2012\/07\/are-the-episcopalians-really-about-to-approve-transgender-ordinations\/","title":{"rendered":"Are the Episcopalians really about to approve transgender ordinations?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15088\" title=\"New York Cityscapes And City Views\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/56\/2012\/07\/sns-rt-us-usa-religion-transgenderbre8660ix-20-001-575x380.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"575\" height=\"380\"><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s looking that way.<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/episcopal-church-votes-to-allow-transgender-ministers-77820\/%20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Details:<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A day after a legislative body of the Episcopal Church voted to sell the\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/topics\/denomination\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">denomination<\/a>\u2018s New York headquarters amid budget cuts and declining membership, church leaders on Saturday adopted legislation to give transgenders the right to become lay and ordained ministers.<\/p>\n<p>At the church\u2019s ongoing week-long General Convention in Indianapolis, Ind., the House of Bishops approved proposal that would amend two canons to prohibit discrimination based on \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/topics\/gender\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">gender<\/a> identity or expression\u201d in the lay and ordained ministry discernment process and in the overall life,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/topics\/worship\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">worship<\/a> and governance of the church, Episcopal News Service reported.<\/p>\n<p>The House of Deputies, the other legislative body of the bicameral General Convention of the Episcopal Church, must approve the legislation to pass at the convention.<\/p>\n<p>The bishops\u2019 move overlooks the fact that 200,000 members and 300 parishes have left the denomination in the past few years partly due to the church\u2019s leftist policies on social and political issues. Nine years ago, the church approved its first openly gay bishop.<\/p>\n<p>For many in the church, Saturday\u2019s resolution was about \u201cinclusion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am pleased that these resolutions did pass in that they have the very significant effect of validating, in the eyes of the church, the humanity of those who are transgender,\u201d the Rev. Carolyn Woodall of the Diocese of San Joaquin was quoted as saying. \u201cWe are greatly misunderstood and there is a widespread lack of knowledge about what it means to be transgender.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Read more, including reaction, at <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/news\/episcopal-church-votes-to-allow-transgender-ministers-77820\/%20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">the link. <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Meantime, Episcopalian writer Sarah Hey offers <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.standfirminfaith.com\/?\/sf\/page\/29089%20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">some analysis: <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If a\u00a0<strong>layperson<\/strong> with perfectly good xy chromosomes [male] or with perfectly good xx chromosomes [female] but who imagine themselves as the opposite sex, and then undergo surgery and take hormones in order to further foster their personal beliefs about themselves or who simply cross-dress or otherwise \u201cdiffer from majority societal gender norms\u201d cannot not \u201cbe considered\u201d as a nursery volunteer or vestry member or any other part of the local parish\u2019s leadership for which they may wish to volunteer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Their disordered actions, something that is a pathology, barring a chromosomal or other physical disorder, cannot be a part of any decision to exclude them from consideration in any part of church leadership, whether clergy or laity.\u00a0 This perfectly parallels the theology and foundational worldview of those who have driven the acceptance of non-celibate, same-sex relationships as well.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It has been clear for some years now that the people leading us at the national level\u201490% of bishops, lay and clergy deputies to General Convention, and those serving on national commissions and committees\u2014are not competent, healthy, or ordered in their theology or foundational worldview.\u00a0 It is one thing to love sinners [as we all are], and to love those with mental illness [as many of us have]. It is another thing to re-name pathologies as \u201cgood and healthy\u201d, to enshrine those with such pathologies as leaders of a church, and to force others to pretend as if disordered affections or gender identities are functional and wholesome.<\/p>\n<p>Every foolish and dysfunctional decision our leaders make at the national level has a huge effect on parishes and dioceses at the local level.\u00a0 Average Sunday Attendance [ASA] has plunged 23% over the past decade in The Episcopal Church and 16% just in the past five years\u2014view the trends of the past five years\u00a0<a title=\"here\" href=\"http:\/\/www.episcopalchurch.org\/sites\/default\/files\/domestic_fast_facts_trends_2006-2010.pdf\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There is good reason for that plunge.\u00a0 Parishioners, clergy, parishes, and entire dioceses have left The Episcopal Church as a direct result of these unrelenting, escalatingly foolish and destructive decisions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.standfirminfaith.com\/?\/sf\/page\/29089%20\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Read the rest. <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It\u2019s looking that way. Details: A day after a legislative body of the Episcopal Church voted to sell the\u00a0denomination\u2018s New York headquarters amid budget cuts and declining membership, church leaders on Saturday adopted legislation to give transgenders the right to become lay and ordained ministers. 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