{"id":1997,"date":"2011-02-26T01:32:38","date_gmt":"2011-02-26T06:32:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/deaconsbench\/?p=1997"},"modified":"2016-09-30T17:47:37","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T21:47:37","slug":"hows-the-latin-mass-being-received-these-days","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/2011\/02\/hows-the-latin-mass-being-received-these-days\/","title":{"rendered":"How&#039;s the Latin mass being received these days?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Nearly four years after the <em>motu proprio<\/em> that made possible greater access to the Latin mass, John Allen has an interesting interview with Fr. Richard Hilgartner, Executive Director of the Secretariat for Divine  Worship of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. A priest  of the Baltimore archdiocese, Hilgartner studied liturgical theology at  the prestigious Benedictine-run Pontifical Athenaeum of St. Anselm in  Rome.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/56\/2011\/02\/tridentine_mass_elevation_2.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-1998\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/56\/2011\/02\/tridentine_mass_elevation_2-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>From <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ncronline.org\/blogs\/all-things-catholic\/traditionalists-add-spice-catholic-stew\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">NCR<\/a><\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>NCR<\/em><\/strong>: <strong>What impact has the <em>motu  proprio<\/em> had in the United States?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Hilgartner<\/em>: For many places it\u2019s regularized what was  previously deemed exceptional. Prior to the <em>motu proprio<\/em>,  priests had to have special permission to celebrate the Tridentine form.  Now priests don\u2019t need special permission, because while the Tridentine  form isn\u2019t necessarily normative, it has its place in the larger  context of the liturgical life of the church.<\/p>\n<p>People usually ask for statistics, how many priests are celebrating  the Tridentine form and how many people are attending it. Because of the  <em>motu proprio<\/em>, however, there isn\u2019t necessarily any reporting.  Priests don\u2019t need special permission, so we really don\u2019t know when  they\u2019re doing it, especially when it\u2019s a private celebration as a form  of their own devotion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s your anecdotal impression of how strong the demand has  been? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think there was an initial bump after the <em>motu proprio<\/em>,  probably fueled by curiosity. Some people had rather limited access  before, and suddenly there was the possibility of attending the  extraordinary form more regularly. What seems to be happening in many  dioceses is that there isn\u2019t necessarily a Tridentine Mass in every  parish that wants it, because the numbers are often fairly low, but  there\u2019s some kind of regional approach. In lots of dioceses there are  one or two designated locations, and some bishops now celebrate the  Tridentine form occasionally to be supportive of those efforts. Part of  the reality, too, is that not many priests are well trained in  celebrating the Tridentine form.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There\u2019s been no popular repudiation of the new Mass? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think that\u2019s very safe to say. The <em>motu proprio<\/em> is serving  a niche, a need felt by a small number of the faithful.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There\u2019s talk of \u201copposition\u201d from bishops. What\u2019s your sense  of how the American bishops have responded? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t say that it\u2019s been negative in any way. Some bishops have  been more attuned to it than others, in part because there are some  places where bishops might not see the demand. I\u2019ve not seen anything,  however, that could be perceived as overt or organized opposition. Some  may be more passionate about it than others, but that\u2019s natural.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Prior to the <em>motu proprio<\/em>, there were dire  predictions about its impact. Almost four years into it, can we say that  upheaval really hasn\u2019t materialized? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I would agree. Initially there was some hesitation and concern, but  we\u2019ve not really seen histrionics in any large way. It\u2019s not had a  detrimental effect in terms of fracturing the unity of the church, so a  lot of the hype has calmed down. Experience has proven that it\u2019s not  caused upheaval, and in most places it\u2019s business as usual.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve heard stories on both ends. I\u2019ve talked to people who had never  before experienced the older Mass, especially young people, who go out  of curiosity and find beauty in it, something uplifting and moving. I\u2019ve  also talked to people who really thought we should go back to this, who  then actually attended a Tridentine Mass and felt differently. Over the  last forty years, people have grown accustomed to being able to  comprehend and participate in what\u2019s being celebrated. Participating by  devotion, rather than actually engaging in the rites being celebrated,  is a very different experience. Sometimes people who were nostalgic for  the older Mass, therefore, end up with a different view once they  actually take part in it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ncronline.org\/blogs\/all-things-catholic\/traditionalists-add-spice-catholic-stew\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Check out more<\/a><\/strong>.\u00a0 Interesting stuff.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nearly four years after the motu proprio that made possible greater access to the Latin mass, John Allen has an interesting interview with Fr. Richard Hilgartner, Executive Director of the Secretariat for Divine Worship of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. 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