The cardinal archbishop of Sydney, George Pell, in Rome for various meetings in the Vatican, granted me this interview on June 24, in which he shared his impressions on Pope Francis\u2019s first 100 days in office and discussed the reform of the Roman Curia.<\/p>\n
\u201cWe\u2019ve got a different type of Pope\u201d who is \u201cdoing very well\u201d, he said. But he also expressed some concern for the pope\u2019s health because of \u201cthe cracking pace\u201d at which he has begun his work.<\/p>\n
Pell, one of the Pope\u2019s eight cardinal advisors said he envisages \u201ca major re-configuration\u201d of the Roman Curia and hopes a better way can be set up to select people for positions at all levels in it.<\/p>\n
Francis has been pope for 100 days. What are the two or three things that stand out in your mind from this period?<\/strong><\/p>\nI think his recent encounter with the Harley Davidson riders was emblematic. Thousands of them came on these enormous motorbikes on Sunday morning to get a blessing from Francis. By all accounts, the Pope was perfectly at home with them, and blessed them. They gave him two big motorbikes which he\u2019s going to sell off and give the proceeds to the poor.<\/p>\n
I think that\u2019s emblematic that we\u2019ve got a different type of a pope.\u00a0\u00a0He\u2019s a pope who very much understands the importance of symbols, and he\u2019s inclined to talk through stories and parables\u2026<\/p>\n
What do you make of his decision to stay at Santa Marta?<\/strong><\/p>\nI think it\u2019s obviously the action of a man who likes company. It\u2019s very much the action of a Pope who does not want to be isolated and, if I could venture an hypothesis, I suspect it\u2019s the action of a man who doesn\u2019t want to be controlled.\u00a0 I\u2019m all in favor of popes being popes\u2026.<\/p>\n
As you know he\u2019s staying in Rome for the holidays, and not going to Castel Gandolfo.<\/strong><\/p>\nPope Benedict is going to Castel Gandolfo, so that might be one of the reasons why Francis has decided not to go there.Castel Gandolfo\u00a0is a beautiful place and I\u2019d very much like to see the Pope taking his holidays out there, but the Holy Father is an old style Jesuit, he\u2019s taken a vow of poverty and he takes it seriously.\u00a0\u00a0Most of the rest of us haven\u2019t taken a vow of poverty but he has, and I think it is immensely to his credit that he lives it.<\/p>\n
By his commitment to a simple life, marked by poverty, Pope Francis is setting a style of how to be a priest, how to be a bishop, how to be a pope. Do you think many bishops and priests will review their own style of life in the light of his example?<\/strong><\/p>\nThere\u2019s no doubt about it, the style of papacy, the content of the teaching, the way the Pope lives, all this influences the life of the whole Church.\u00a0I think the general direction which the Holy Father is going in is very good. He certainly doesn\u2019t want the Vatican to be seen as a Renaissance court or even an 18th<\/sup>\u00a0century court, but rather as a place where people are serious about serving Christ and serving the people. He\u2019s certainly not into pomp and circumstance. So to answer your question, yes, I think his example and style of life will have an effect.<\/p><\/blockquote>\nRead more.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Details\u00a0from Vatican Insider: The cardinal archbishop of Sydney, George Pell, in Rome for various meetings in the Vatican, granted me this interview on June 24, in which he shared his impressions on Pope Francis\u2019s first 100 days in office and discussed the reform of the Roman Curia. \u201cWe\u2019ve got a different type of Pope\u201d who […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":132,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39],"tags":[1413],"class_list":["post-24239","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-pope","tag-pope-francis"],"yoast_head":"\n
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