{"id":7702,"date":"2011-10-09T19:57:33","date_gmt":"2011-10-09T23:57:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/deaconsbench\/?p=7702"},"modified":"2016-09-30T17:36:54","modified_gmt":"2016-09-30T21:36:54","slug":"madison-joins-phoenix-in-limiting-use-of-communion-under-both-kinds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/deaconsbench\/2011\/10\/madison-joins-phoenix-in-limiting-use-of-communion-under-both-kinds\/","title":{"rendered":"Madison joins Phoenix in limiting Communion under both kinds &#8212; UPDATED"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/56\/2011\/10\/communion_1449334c.jpg\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-7703\" src=\"https:\/\/wp.patheos.com\/community\/sites\/56\/2011\/10\/communion_1449334c.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"460\" height=\"288\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Weeks after <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/community\/deaconsbench\/2011\/09\/22\/phoenix-restricts-reception-of-communion-under-both-kinds\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Phoenix moved to restrict use of the Precious Blood<\/a><\/strong> during Mass, it now appears that Madison, Wisconsin is moving in the same direction.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/diocese-of-madison-wi-to-stop-regular-holy-communion-under-both-kinds-the-indult-ran-out-in-2005\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>Fr. Z.<\/strong> <\/a>broke the news:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>On the site of the parish of the Cathedral of Madison in Wisconsin,  where His Excellency Most Rev. Robert Morlino is, by the grace of God,  the ordinary, there is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.isthmuscatholic.org\/documents\/2011%2046%20Oct%209W.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">a pdf of the parish bulletin<\/a> in which it is explained that they are ending regular distribution of Holy Communion under both kinds.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The bulletin announcement says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the <strong>last couple of decades<\/strong>, <strong>Communion under both species<\/strong> (with the congregation able to receive the Precious Blood as well as the Sacred\u00a0Host) has become <strong>routine <\/strong>in  our experience. I knew (as many of you\u00a0do) that Communion under both  species was first introduced, on a\u00a0limited basis, after the Second  Vatican Council, and that it has\u00a0become much more common since. What I  did not know was that the\u00a0widespread American practice of offering both  species at most Sunday\u00a0Masses began here <strong>under an indult (special permission) given by the\u00a0Vatican in 1975, which expired in 2005<\/strong>\u2026<\/p>\n<p>\u2026So, all over the United States, we now find ourselves needing to <strong>bring\u00a0our practice into conformity with current regulations (and with the\u00a0rest of the world)<\/strong>.  In his comments at Chula Vista, Bishop Morlino\u00a0mentioned a few  instances in which Communion under both kinds is\u00a0still permitted: the  Chrism Mass, the Feast of Corpus Christi, for the\u00a0bride and groom at a  Nuptial Mass, and for those so allergic to wheat\u00a0that they cannot  tolerate even low-gluten hosts. Beyond those\u00a0occasions and  circumstances, Communion can be offered under both\u00a0species at  celebrations of special importance. But it is clear that\u00a0we will not be  seeing Communion under both species as a weekly\u00a0practice.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/diocese-of-madison-wi-to-stop-regular-holy-communion-under-both-kinds-the-indult-ran-out-in-2005\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><strong>Read it all.<\/strong> <\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong> There\u2019s an interesting dissection of the indult involved, and the GIRM, by Daniel Horan over at <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/datinggod.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dating God<\/a><\/strong>.\u00a0 His take:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It strikes me as nothing less-than an clerical overstepping and  unnecessary demarcation of the clergy and laity. What are these pastors  (by which I mean the Canonical notion of pastor) thinking? It seems, at  least superficially, that it is an \u201cin\u201d and \u201cout\u201d club \u2014 who is and who  is not permitted to receive from the cup. The only shred of juridical  support is the technicality about who can and cannot clean the cups  after Communion.\u00a0Seriously, we have more important things to be  concerned about. Provided the extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist,  with some very simple instruction and supervision of the presider, know  what they are doing and are respectful \u2014 as the law demands \u2014 of their  duty, then there should be absolutely no problem with their purification  of the sacred vessels.<\/p>\n<p>It is, one must admit, rather humorous that these men are so very  concerned about who \u201cdoes the dishes,\u201d as it were. If only the married  women who are oftentimes the extraordinary ministers of the Eucharist  could instill such a fervent desire in their husbands at home, there  might be fewer fights between couples in the kitchen after dinner!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/datinggod.org\/2011\/10\/10\/the-eucharist-is-not-a-weapon-part-ii\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Check it out. <\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Weeks after Phoenix moved to restrict use of the Precious Blood during Mass, it now appears that Madison, Wisconsin is moving in the same direction. Fr. Z. broke the news: On the site of the parish of the Cathedral of Madison in Wisconsin, where His Excellency Most Rev. 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