{"id":1463,"date":"2022-03-07T04:00:04","date_gmt":"2022-03-07T10:00:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/denisonforum\/2022\/03\/the-denison-forum-podcast-episode-11-what-does-the-bible-say-about-war\/"},"modified":"2022-03-07T04:00:04","modified_gmt":"2022-03-07T10:00:04","slug":"the-denison-forum-podcast-episode-11-what-does-the-bible-say-about-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/denisonforum\/2022\/03\/the-denison-forum-podcast-episode-11-what-does-the-bible-say-about-war\/","title":{"rendered":"The Denison Forum Podcast Episode 11: What does the Bible say about war?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/what-does-the-bible-say-about-war\/id1603297409?i=1000553149848\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Listen on Apple Podcasts<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5hr6CAV67Q4DeRr9tCKTdO?si=8e09e6676e634484\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Listen on Spotify<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><b>Release date<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">: 3\/7\/2022<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Summary: <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Jim Denison and Dr. Mark Turman discuss the Ukraine\/Russian conflict, why Putin believes the invasion is justified, whether this conflict will devolve into World War III, what the Bible says about war, and four encouraging ways to pray for Ukraine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Show notes:<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> First, Dr. Jim Denison and Dr. Mark Turman unpack the recent developments in Ukraine. They express admiration for the Ukrainian president Zelensky and the heroic way that Ukraine is holding out against Russia. Then, Dr. Denison talks about the difference between a cold war, a hot war, and the means of conflict in a cyberwar. They also discuss the international backlash against Putin\u2019s move into Ukraine. Then, Dr. Denison relates a difficult reality: The United States is not as prepared for a cyberwar as Russia is. They discuss the risks posing U.S. citizens if that were to unfold.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">They then delve into a discussion of the difference between \u201ceastern\u201d (namely, Russia and China) and \u201cwestern\u201d worldviews. Dr. Denison unpacks how the individualism of the west means that we prize persons above the \u201cwhole,\u201d or the \u201cstate.\u201d On the other hand, Putin\u2019s eastern perspective means that he is willing to sacrifice massive numbers to serve the interests of Russia. Dr. Denison shows how authoritarianism plays into this conflict and Putin\u2019s further interests in taking Ukraine.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">At this point, Dr. Denison unpacks St. Augustine\u2019s just war theory with his famous seven justifications, such as self-defense, proportionality, justice, last resort, etc. From Putin\u2019s perspective, from the eastern mindset that serves Russia first above all else, this war meets all the qualifications, while we in the West would say it meets absolutely none of them. This shows how complex war and international politics are. In this context, Dr. Turman and Dr. Denison unfold his likely motivations in greater detail.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">They then go off track to discuss a potential parallel: how Mexico could <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">hypothetically <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">use similar logic to Putin, but within the Western worldview, to regain portions of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and even southern California. This idea of war between the US and Mexico is entirely theoretical, but Dr. Denison covers some history; how America ultimately wronged Mexico by taking land in the 1800s, similar to how Putin is currently trying to take Ukraine. They follow this parallel for some time. Finally, Dr. Denison discusses the origins of the<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> City of God<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> where St. Augustine outlines the just war theory.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">In conclusion, Dr. Denison provides applications for Christians in America. We can rest in the Lord, knowing that he has things under control. He also answers whether any Christians should join the Ukrainian defense. Then, he gives four ways to pray for Ukraine:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For God to be glorified and to redeem this war for his purposes<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For Putin\u2019s heart to change and for him to come to repentance\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For miraculous deliverance for Ukraine and in defense of Ukraine<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">For God to use our fear to turn to God, as an opportunity to turn to faith<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">And finally, Dr. Denison prays himself to close the podcast.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>P.S. <\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jim\u2019s most pivotal book to date, <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thecomingtsunami.com\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Coming Tsunami<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">, is now available on Kindle, hardcover, and Audible.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Resources and further reading:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.denisonforum.org\/tag\/ukraine\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Updates on Ukraine<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u2013 Dr. Jim Denison, Denison Forum team<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.denisonforum.org\/biblical-living\/christianity\/just-war-and-personal-conflict-a-veterans-day-reflection\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u201cJust war and personal conflict: a Veterans Day reflection\u201d<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u2013 Dr. Jim Denison\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/B001NLL946\/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Next 100 Years: A Forecast for the 21st Century<\/span><\/i><\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2013 George Friedman<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/St-Augustine-Hippo-City-God-ebook\/dp\/B008EKYJX2\/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=city+of+god+st+augustine&amp;qid=1646427581&amp;sprefix=city+of+god+st+%2Caps%2C112&amp;sr=8-1\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">City of God<\/span><\/i><\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u2013 St. Augustine<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.brookings.edu\/experts\/fiona-hill\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">The Brookings Institute<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400\"> \u2013 Fiona Hill\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><b>About the hosts\u00a0<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Jim Denison, Ph.D., is an author, speaker, and the CEO of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.denisonministries.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Denison Ministries<\/a>, which is transforming 6.8 million lives through meaningful digital content.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400\">Dr. Mark Turman is the executive director of Denison Forum. He received his DMin from Truett at Baylor and previously served as lead pastor of Crosspoint Church.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listen on Apple Podcasts Listen on Spotify Release date: 3\/7\/2022 Summary: Dr. Jim Denison and Dr. Mark Turman discuss the Ukraine\/Russian conflict, why Putin believes the invasion is justified, whether this conflict will devolve into World War III, what the&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4396,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1463","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Denison Forum Podcast Episode 11: What does the Bible say about 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