Cliven Bundy for Governor of Wyoming

Cliven Bundy for Governor of Wyoming July 18, 2014

Apaprently, Cliven Bundy is running for the Republican nomination for governor of Wyoming, only he’s using the name Taylor Haynes. Haynes is running on a platform of taking over that state’s national parks, including Yellowstone, and arresting federal officers if they try to do their jobs.

If elected Wyoming governor, Republican Taylor Haynes intends to take back federal lands and could open Yellowstone National Park to drilling, grazing and mining, he said.

Haynes, who describes himself as a conservative and a scholar of the Constitution, said the U.S. government can own only 10 square miles of land, Washington, D.C., for the seat of government, as described in the U.S. Constitution under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

In addition to constitutional reasons, the state should own federal lands to better manage the resources — Haynes specifically criticized the federal government’s management of U.S. forests — and generate more revenue for the state, he said.

“There are thousands of drilling permits in the federal system” awaiting approval, he said.

Among federal lands, Haynes includes the portion of Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, Grand Teton National Park and Devils Tower National Monument. He also wants the state to own U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management lands…

If elected, Haynes would send federal government agencies a certified letter and invite them to attend a meeting in which he will explain his plan. He said they must be gone by January 2015, when he would takes office.

“Then in whichever county they attempt to have any official activity, they will be arrested for impersonating a law enforcement officer in Wyoming,” he said.

Well that’s not too bizarre or anything. It’s also really ignorant. Yellowstone was a national park before Wyoming even existed as a state and the Wyoming state constitution explicitly gives up any state control of federal land there forever (Article 21, Section 26). They can’t “take back” those lands because they never belonged to the state of Wyoming in the first place, just like the land Bundy thinks he can use free of charge never belonged to the state of Nevada. But these are facts, something wingnuts are allergic to.

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  • Chiroptera

    Haynes, who describes himself as a conservative and a scholar of the Constitution, said the U.S. government can own only 10 square miles of land, Washington, D.C., for the seat of government, as described in the U.S. Constitution under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

    Boy, that there is some deep Constitutional scholarship.

  • John Pieret

    But if the Federal Government won’t deal with some nutcake rancher and his friends, will it really go after a state governor, no matter how illegal what he proposes to do is?

  • I wonder if Haynes intends to take over F.E. Warren Air Force Base as well. He may get a visit from some interesting people, as trying to seize a USAF Minuteman III ICBM base is probably rather illegal.

  • eamick

    He doesn’t even manage to get the part about DC right—it’s 10 miles square, i.e., 100 square miles. There’s also the small problem of the rest of the clause, which explicitly lets the federal government buy land from the states.

  • robnyny

    Even the Heritage Foundation isn’t that crazy/ignorant:

    http://www.heritage.org/constitution/#!/articles/4/essays/126/property-clause

    The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States….

    ARTICLE IV, SECTION 3, CLAUSE 2

  • dmcclean

    I’m not sure if this mistake lies with Haynes or with the reporter, but someone has an innumeracy problem to go along with Haynes’ reading comprehension problem.

    Haynes, who describes himself as a conservative and a scholar of the Constitution, said the U.S. government can own only 10 square miles of land, Washington, D.C., for the seat of government, as described in the U.S. Constitution under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

    To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;

    10 square miles != 10 miles square, and the italicized bit is one of the bits that says that Haynes is full of shit (along with the property clause in Article IV, Section 3).

    Can the media ask Haynes if he intends to seize Warren Air Force Base? If not, why not? If so, should we start moving the Minuteman IIIs now, or would we have enough time to do it after the primary? Obviously we can’t move the silos, but we have enough other ones in loyal states that we should be ok.

  • iknklast

    The mayor of our town threatened to arrest the EPA if they showed up to test our water. I guess this is sweeping the nation…

    To the great discredit of the EPA, they caved in and did not come. I would have loved to see what would happen to the mayor if he arrested federal employees in the legitimate performance of their duty.

  • lorn

    When someone calls themselves a “scholar of the Constitution” it usually means that they have gone past mere ignorance to complete misapprehension of the document, its meaning, and the history and law surrounding it.

  • flyv65

    @iknlast: EPA doesn’t actually *do* the testing: they have private contractors (people like me) who go around, collect the samples, document the event, and maintain chain of custody until the lab receives and analyzes the samples. We’re little fish and we’d rot in the slammer before anyone lost sleep at HQ. About the only time you see the EPA flex their depleted muscle is when you’ve got an EPA OSC onsite for an emergency response. If somebody local tries to raise hell they call the Marshals to settle the problem and go back to work while it happens.

  • Wyoming state constitution explicitly gives up any state control of federal land there forever

    Well, you know how seriously Wyoming and the federal government take treaties regarding land…

  • raven

    The mayor of our town threatened to arrest the EPA if they showed up to test our water. I guess this is sweeping the nation.

    Mostly just the Red and rural places AFAICT.

    Out here, some nut cases running the water plant took fluoride out of the water because you know, it’s poisonous, part of UN Agenda 21, and jesus.

    The voters got a referendum petition, voted, and made them put it back in.

  • StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Cliven Bundy for Governor of Wyoming

    I’d really rather not y’know.

    I hope the Wyomingans see it that way too. Please.

    I’m sure they’z mostly good folks who know better yeah?

  • raven

    The mayor of our town threatened to arrest the EPA…

    The EPA almost doesn’t exist any more.

    1. During Katrina, my chemist friend who works in analytical got a lot of water samples from Louisiana. To test for pesticides, industrial chemicals, petroleum, etc..

    2. They couldn’t do it. The people who run the analytical instruments had been laid off due to budget cuts.

    3. Which didn’t matter. The machines were mostly nonfunctional because the people who maintain them were also gone…due to budget cuts.

    4. While they were standing around trying to do what they could, they were laid off,…due to budget cuts.

    No one knows what was in those flood waters.

  • raven

    I’m sure they’z mostly good folks who know better yeah?

    Keep hoping.

    Darth Cheney is from…Wyoming.

  • busterggi

    I look forward to the renewal of the range wars of the 1880’s & ’90s. I just don’t know if I should bet on the Regulators of the Moderators.

  • ebotebo

    Actually the pigfucker cheney is from Lincoln, Nebraska, and he partly grew up in that state as well.

  • Richard Grayson

    I am the Democratic candidate for Congress from Wyoming (because no one else would run) and I disagree with Dr. Haynes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZKjUeLuFs

  • iknklast

    flyv65 – I know about that. I used to do that sort of work myself. And I would not have been left to rot in jail. My employer would have had me out of there in no time flat, and then the government (I worked for the state government, just like the people he threatened) would have tended to the mayor. But that was in the 1990s. Maybe they’re letting people rot in jail for doing their jobs now.

  • D. C. Sessions

    Aside from the question of support from your employer, there’s another question here:

    Since when can a State Governor just decide to “throw someone in jail?” I mean, that’s the sort of thing you run into in bad novels. Even in Wyoming, I’m pretty sure that the courts would have some say in the matter.

    But then again, I’m not “a scholar of the Constitution.”

  • Trebuchet

    Darth Cheney is from…Wyoming.

    As I recall, although he had represented WY in the House, he actually had to buy a condo in Jackson so he could claim residence there for the 2000 presidential election. He actually lived in Texas.

    Had he been officially a Texas resident, the Texas Electoral College delegation would have been barred from voting for both him and GWB, giving us the combination of President George W Bush and Vice President Joe Lieberman. The latter of whom might as well be a Republican anyhow.

    (Citation needed, doing this from memory.)

  • raven

    Since when can a State Governor just decide to “throw someone in jail?”

    Because jesus, that’s why!!!

    Good point.

    You have to commit a crime and then you get due process, bail, court appointed lawyer and all that.

    IIRC, a state governor who just starts throwing people in jail without due process is guilty of a bunch of crimes. False arrest, false imprisonment, deprivation of civil rights and who knows what else.

    I suspect wannabe governor Taylor Haynes might end up in prison before or shortly after he starts playing fascist dictator.

  • anubisprime

    Is it possible that the rethuglian legions have sank so low and to such insane depths while being whisked by the current to the outermost right fringes of righteous rationality, that they would see this character as the embodiment of their present political ideology ?

    That really is chilling!