{"id":10047,"date":"2010-09-19T18:56:25","date_gmt":"2010-09-19T18:56:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2010\/09\/discussion-bhagwad-gita-chapter-1-verse-25-through-31\/"},"modified":"2010-09-19T18:56:25","modified_gmt":"2010-09-19T18:56:25","slug":"discussion-bhagwad-gita-chapter-1-verse-25-through-31","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2010\/09\/discussion-bhagwad-gita-chapter-1-verse-25-through-31\/","title":{"rendered":"Discussion on Bhagwad Gita: Chapter 1; Verse 25 through 31"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<\/head>

\"krishnagita2.jpg\"<\/a>Today, we will come to terms with the real significance of Mahabharat. Why was it that Bhagwad Gita had to<\/u><\/b> occur at this juncture in presence of Shri Krishna and with the cast of characters that we had on our hand.<\/p>\n

\u0924\u0924\u094d\u0930\u093e\u092a\u0936\u094d\u092f\u0924\u094d\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093f\u0924\u093e\u0928\u094d\u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0925\u0903 \u092a\u093f\u0924\u0944\u0928\u0925 \u092a\u093f\u0924\u093e\u092e\u0939\u093e\u0928\u094d\u0964
\n\u0906\u091a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0928\u094d\u092e\u093e\u0924\u0941\u0932\u093e\u0928\u094d\u092d\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0924\u0944\u0928\u094d\u092a\u0941\u0924\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0928\u094d\u092a\u094c\u0924\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0928\u094d\u0938\u0916\u0940\u0902\u0938\u094d\u0924\u0925\u093e\u0965\u0967-\u0968\u096c\u0965
\n\u0936\u094d\u0935\u0936\u0941\u0930\u093e\u0928\u094d\u0938\u0941\u0939\u0943\u0926\u0936\u094d\u091a\u0948\u0935 \u0938\u0947\u0928\u092f\u094b\u0930\u0941\u092d\u092f\u094b\u0930\u092a\u093f\u0964
\n\u0924\u093e\u0928\u094d\u0938\u092e\u0940\u0915\u094d\u0937\u094d\u092f \u0938 \u0915\u094c\u0928\u094d\u0924\u0947\u092f\u0903 \u0938\u0930\u094d\u0935\u093e\u0928\u094d\u092c\u0928\u094d\u0927\u0942\u0928\u0935\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093f\u0924\u093e\u0928\u094d\u0965\u0967-\u0968\u096d\u0965<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hindi<\/b><\/p>\n

\u0935\u0939\u093e\u0902 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0925 \u0928\u0947\u0902 \u0909\u0938 \u0938\u0947\u0928\u093e \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u092a\u093f\u0924\u093e \u0915\u0947 \u092d\u093e\u0908\u092f\u094b\u0902, \u092a\u093f\u0924\u093e\u092e\u0939\u094b\u0902 (\u0926\u093e\u0926\u093e), \u0906\u091a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u092f\u094b\u0902, \u092e\u093e\u092e\u094b\u0902, \u092d\u093e\u0908\u092f\u094b\u0902, \u092a\u0941\u0924\u094d\u0930\u094b\u0902, \u092e\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0930\u094b\u0902, \u092a\u094c\u0924\u094d\u0930\u094b\u0902, \u0936\u094d\u0935\u0936\u0941\u0930\u094b\u0902 (\u0938\u0938\u0941\u0930), \u0938\u0902\u092c\u0928\u094d\u0927\u0940\u092f\u094b\u0902 \u0915\u094b \u0926\u094b\u0928\u094b \u0924\u0930\u092b \u0915\u0940 \u0938\u0947\u0928\u094b\u0913\u0902 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0926\u0947\u0916\u093e\u0964<\/p>\n

brajbhasha \/ \u092c\u094d\u0930\u091c\u092d\u093e\u0937\u093e<\/b> <\/p>\n

\u0905\u0925 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0925 \u092a\u093f\u0924\u093e\u092e\u0939 \u0917\u0941\u0930\u0941\u091c\u0928 \u0915\u094c,
\n\u092a\u0941\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0928, \u092a\u094c\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0928 \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0930\u0928 \u0915\u094c.
\n\u092e\u093e\u092e\u094b\u0902 \u0938\u0938\u0941\u0930\u094b\u0902 \u0938\u092c \u092d\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0924\u0928 \u0915\u094c,
\n\u0938\u0947\u0928\u093e\u0909\u0928 \u0926\u0947\u0916\u0924 \u0928\u093f\u091c\u092a\u0928 \u0915\u094c \u0967-\u0968\u096c\u0965<\/p>\n

\u0909\u0924 \u0920\u093e\u0922\u0947 \u0938\u092c\u0939\u093f\u0902 \u0928\u093f\u091c \u092c\u0928\u094d\u0927\u0941 \u0938\u0916\u093e.
\n\u0905\u0935\u0932\u094b\u0915\u0939\u093f\u0902 \u0939\u094b\u0924 \u092e\u0932\u0940\u0928 \u091c\u093f\u092f\u093e.
\n\u0915\u0930\u0941\u0928\u093e \u092e\u092f \u091a\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0924 \u0938\u094b\u0902 \u092a\u093e\u0930\u094d\u0925 \u0915\u0939\u0947\u0902,
\n\u092e\u094b\u0930\u094b \u0936\u094b\u0915 \u0938\u094b\u0902 \u0935\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0915\u0941\u0932 \u0939\u094b\u0924 \u0939\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0967-\u0968\u096d\u0965<\/p>\n

Arjun looked at the brothers of his father, Pitamah (Grandfather), Teacher, Uncles, Brothers, friends, sons (of the family), Father in laws (of family brides), and relatives of the two sides.<\/p>\n

\n\u0915\u0943\u092a\u092f\u093e \u092a\u0930\u092f\u093e\u0935\u093f\u0937\u094d\u091f\u094b \u0935\u093f\u0937\u0940\u0926\u0928\u094d\u0928\u093f\u0926\u092e\u092c\u094d\u0930\u0935\u0940\u0924\u094d\u0964
\n\u0905\u0930\u094d\u091c\u0941\u0928 \u092c\u094b\u0932\u0947:
\n\u0926\u0943\u0937\u094d\u091f\u094d\u0935\u0947\u092e\u0902 \u0938\u094d\u0935\u091c\u0928\u0902 \u0915\u0943\u0937\u094d\u0923 \u092f\u0941\u092f\u0941\u0924\u094d\u0938\u0941\u0902 \u0938\u092e\u0941\u092a\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093f\u0924\u092e\u094d\u0965\u0967-\u0968\u096e\u0965<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hindi<\/b><\/p>\n

\u0907\u0938 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0915\u093e\u0930 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0938\u0917\u0947 \u0938\u0902\u092c\u0928\u094d\u0927\u093f\u092f\u094b\u0902 \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0930\u094b\u0902 \u0915\u094b \u092f\u0941\u0926\u094d\u0927 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0909\u092a\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093f\u0924 \u0926\u0947\u0916 \u0905\u0930\u094d\u091c\u0941\u0928 \u0915\u093e \u092e\u0928 \u0915\u0930\u0941\u0923\u093e \u092a\u0942\u0930\u094d\u0923 \u0939\u094b \u0909\u0920\u093e \u0914\u0930 \u0909\u0938\u0928\u0947 \u0935\u093f\u0937\u093e\u0926 \u092a\u0942\u0930\u094d\u0935\u0915 \u0915\u0943\u0937\u094d\u0923 \u092d\u0917\u0935\u093e\u0928 \u0938\u0947 \u092f\u0939 \u0915\u0939\u093e\u0964 \u0939\u0947 \u0915\u0943\u0937\u094d\u0923, \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0932\u094b\u0917\u094b\u0902 \u0915\u094b \u092f\u0941\u0926\u094d\u0927 \u0915\u0947 \u0932\u093f\u092f\u0947 \u0924\u0924\u094d\u092a\u0930 \u092f\u0939\u093e\u0901 \u0916\u0921\u093e \u0926\u0947\u0916 \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0901\u0964<\/p>\n

brajbhasha \/ \u092c\u094d\u0930\u091c\u092d\u093e\u0937\u093e<\/b> <\/p>\n

\u0905\u0930\u094d\u091c\u0941\u0928 \u0909\u0935\u093e\u091a
\n\u092c\u0928\u094d\u0927\u0941 \u0938\u0916\u093e \u092c\u0939\u0941 \u0920\u093e\u0922\u0947 \u092f\u0939\u0949\u0902,
\n\u091c\u093f\u0928 \u091c\u0941\u0926\u094d\u0927\u0928 \u092d\u093e\u0935 \u0939\u093f\u092f\u093e \u0927\u093e\u0930\u0947.
\n\u0924\u093f\u0928 \u0926\u0947\u0916\u093f \u0939\u093f\u092f\u093e \u092e\u094b\u0930\u094b \u0938\u0942\u0916\u0924 \u0939\u0948,
\n\u0914\u0930 \u0915\u093e\u0902\u092a\u0924 \u0905\u0902\u0917 \u0936\u093f\u0925\u093f\u0932 \u0938\u093e\u0930\u0947<\/p>\n

So, looking at the close relations standing against him on the battlefield, Arjun was full of sorrow and said to Krishna out of lot of pain. \u201cHey Krishna \u2013 I can see my own people in this war against me\u201d.<\/p>\n

\u0938\u0940\u0926\u0928\u094d\u0924\u093f \u092e\u092e \u0917\u093e\u0924\u094d\u0930\u093e\u0923\u093f \u092e\u0941\u0916\u0902 \u091a \u092a\u0930\u093f\u0936\u0941\u0937\u094d\u092f\u0924\u093f\u0964
\n\u0935\u0947\u092a\u0925\u0941\u0936\u094d\u091a \u0936\u0930\u0940\u0930\u0947 \u092e\u0947 \u0930\u094b\u092e\u0939\u0930\u094d\u0937\u0936\u094d\u091a \u091c\u093e\u092f\u0924\u0947\u0965\u0967-\u0968\u096f\u0965<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hindi<\/b>
\n\u0907\u0928\u094d\u0939\u0947\u0902 \u0926\u0947\u0916 \u0915\u0930 \u092e\u0947\u0930\u0947 \u0905\u0902\u0917 \u0920\u0923\u094d\u0921\u0947 \u092a\u0921 \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948, \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u0947\u0930\u093e \u092e\u0941\u0916 \u0938\u0942\u0916 \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948, \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u0947\u0930\u093e \u0936\u0930\u0940\u0930 \u0915\u093e\u0901\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0932\u0917\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964<\/p>\n

brajbhasha \/ \u092c\u094d\u0930\u091c\u092d\u093e\u0937\u093e<\/b> <\/p>\n

\u0917\u0941\u0930\u0941 \u0938\u094d\u0935\u091c\u0928 \u0926\u0947\u0916\u093f \u0915\u0947 \u0939\u0947 \u0915\u0943\u0937\u094d\u0923\u093e\u00a0!
\n\u092e\u0941\u0916 \u0938\u0942\u0916\u093f \u0930\u0939\u094d\u092f\u094b, \u0918\u092c\u0930\u093e\u092f \u091c\u093f\u092f\u093e .
\n\u0924\u0928 \u0915\u0902\u092a \u0936\u093f\u0925\u093f\u0932 \u0930\u094b\u092e\u093e\u0902\u091a \u092d\u092f\u094c,
\n\u092e\u0928 \u092c\u0941\u0926\u094d\u0927\u093f \u092d\u094d\u0930\u092e\u093f\u0924, \u092d\u0930\u092e\u093e\u092f \u0939\u093f\u092f\u093e<\/p>\n

Looking at all of them, my limbs is getting cold, my mouth is drying up and my body is shaking.<\/p>\n

\u0917\u093e\u0923\u094d\u0921\u0940\u0935\u0902 \u0938\u094d\u0930\u0902\u0938\u0924\u0947 \u0939\u0938\u094d\u0924\u093e\u0924\u094d\u0924\u094d\u0935\u0915\u094d\u091a\u0948\u0935 \u092a\u0930\u093f\u0926\u0939\u094d\u092f\u0924\u0947\u0964
\n\u0928 \u091a \u0936\u0915\u094d\u0928\u094b\u092e\u094d\u092f\u0935\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093e\u0924\u0941\u0902 \u092d\u094d\u0930\u092e\u0924\u0940\u0935 \u091a \u092e\u0947 \u092e\u0928\u0903\u0965\u0967-\u0969\u0966\u0965<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hindi<\/b>
\n\u092e\u0947\u0930\u0947 \u0939\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u0947 \u0917\u093e\u0923\u094d\u0921\u0940\u0935 \u0927\u0928\u0941\u0937 \u0917\u093f\u0930\u0928\u0947 \u0915\u094b \u0939\u0948, \u0914\u0930 \u092e\u0947\u0930\u0940 \u0938\u093e\u0930\u0940 \u0924\u094d\u0935\u091a\u093e \u092e\u093e\u0928\u094b \u0906\u0917 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u091c\u0932 \u0909\u0920\u0940 \u0939\u0948\u0964 \u092e\u0948\u0902 \u0905\u0935\u0938\u094d\u0925\u093f\u0924 \u0930\u0939\u0928\u0947 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0905\u0936\u0915\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u0917\u092f\u093e \u0939\u0942\u0901, \u092e\u0947\u0930\u093e \u092e\u0928 \u092d\u094d\u0930\u092e\u093f\u0924 \u0939\u094b \u0930\u0939\u093e \u0939\u0948\u0964<\/p>\n

brajbhasha \/ \u092c\u094d\u0930\u091c\u092d\u093e\u0937\u093e<\/b> <\/p>\n

\u0905\u0924\u093f \u0926\u093e\u0939 \u0924\u094d\u0935\u091a\u093e \u0927\u0927 \u0915\u093e\u0924 \u092e\u094b\u0930\u0940,
\n\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0921\u0940\u0935 \u0939\u093e\u0925 \u0938\u094b\u0902 \u091c\u093e\u0924 \u0917\u093f\u0930\u092f\u094b.
\n\u0930\u0939\u093f \u0938\u0915\u0942\u0902 \u0916\u0921\u093e \u0938\u092e\u0930\u0925 \u0928\u093e\u0939\u0940\u0902,
\n\u092e\u0928 \u092e\u094b\u0930\u094b \u0936\u094b\u0915 \u0938\u094b\u0902 \u091c\u093e\u0924 \u0918\u093f\u0930\u092f\u094b<\/p>\n

My hand is not being able to hold my bow and my skin is burning. I am unable to focus and my mind is confused.<\/p>\n

\u0928\u093f\u092e\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0924\u093e\u0928\u093f \u091a \u092a\u0936\u094d\u092f\u093e\u092e\u093f \u0935\u093f\u092a\u0930\u0940\u0924\u093e\u0928\u093f \u0915\u0947\u0936\u0935\u0964
\n\u0928 \u091a \u0936\u094d\u0930\u0947\u092f\u094b\u093d\u0928\u0941\u092a\u0936\u094d\u092f\u093e\u092e\u093f \u0939\u0924\u094d\u0935\u093e \u0938\u094d\u0935\u091c\u0928\u092e\u093e\u0939\u0935\u0947\u0965\u0967-\u0969\u0967\u0965<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hindi<\/b>
\n\u0939\u0947 \u0915\u0947\u0936\u0935, \u091c\u094b \u0928\u093f\u092e\u093f\u0924\u094d\u0924 \u0939\u0948 \u0909\u0938\u0947 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u092d\u0940 \u092e\u0941\u091d\u0947 \u0935\u093f\u092a\u0930\u0940\u0924 \u0939\u0940 \u0926\u093f\u0916\u093e\u0908 \u0926\u0947 \u0930\u0939\u0947 \u0939\u0948\u0902, \u0915\u094d\u092f\u094b\u0902\u0915\u093f \u0939\u0947 \u0915\u0947\u0936\u0935, \u092e\u0941\u091d\u0947 \u0905\u092a\u0928\u0947 \u0939\u0940 \u0938\u094d\u0935\u091c\u0928\u094b\u0902 \u0915\u094b \u092e\u093e\u0930\u0928\u0947 \u092e\u0947\u0902 \u0915\u093f\u0938\u0940 \u092d\u0940 \u092a\u094d\u0930\u0915\u093e\u0930 \u0915\u093e \u0915\u0932\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0923 \u0926\u093f\u0916\u093e\u0908 \u0928\u0939\u0940\u0902 \u0926\u0947\u0924\u093e\u0964<\/p>\n

brajbhasha \/ \u092c\u094d\u0930\u091c\u092d\u093e\u0937\u093e<\/b>
\n\u0932\u0915\u094d\u0937\u0923 \u0938\u0917\u0930\u0947, \u0935\u093f\u092a\u0930\u0940\u0924 \u092e\u094b\u0939\u0947,
\n\u092f\u0939\u0940 \u091c\u0941\u0926\u094d\u0927\u094d\u0939\u093f\u0902 \u0915\u0947\u0936\u0935 \u0926\u0940\u0916\u0924 \u0939\u0948\u0902
\n\u0915\u0941\u0932 \u0906\u092a\u0941\u0928\u093f \u092e\u093e\u0930\u093f \u0915\u0947 \u0906\u092a\u0941\u0928\u093f \u0938\u094b\u0902
\n\u0915\u0932\u094d\u092f\u093e\u0923 \u0915\u0939\u093e\u0901, \u092f\u0939\u0940 \u0926\u0941\u0930\u094d\u0917\u0924\u093f \u0939\u0948<\/p>\n

\u201cHey Keshav (one with beautiful hair), I can only see bad omen here, because I cannot see any good coming out of killing my own people\u201d.<\/p>\n

Discussion<\/b><\/p>\n

In our daily lives, it becomes important, as to how we define the \u201cMine\u201d and \u201cNot Mine\u201d. In the traditional and less commercially oriented societies, the \u201cMine\u201d was a bigger circle. So, not only my son or his bride, but also my brother and his son and daughter in law were part of the circle of \u201cMine\u201d. The definition of \u201cMine\u201d entails what you care for. When you care for someone or something, you don\u2019t want to hurt it. At least in the conventional sense.<\/p>\n

Caring, filial relationships, love, friendship, Intuition are \u201cFeminine\u201d qualities in this existence. Masculine qualities are Ego, Valor, Commerce, Economics, Bravery, Logic etc. As the society\u2019s structure breaks down into smaller units, where the circle of \u201cMine\u201d becomes smaller and smaller, then it is common that love and care start getting lost. Feminine qualities need not be only visible in women, nor do Masculine qualities have any relationship to men. Any of them can have predominance of any of these qualities.<\/p>\n

We are lucky that this war is against the backdrop of a war, where the circle of \u201cMine\u201d for Arjun was as big as it was for him (although not very large*). Had it not been so, it could have been any other war. And there could have been no Gita. Gita\u2019s genesis is in the pain of Arjun. Had Arjun felt no pain, there could have been no reason for a Gita. So, many wars have happened. In countless of them, one brother has killed another real one. Sons have killed their fathers. Fathers have killed their sons. Mothers have killed their progeny. This war drama has been going on endlessly. But none of those wars warranted a Gita, because the cast of those characters did not have a circle of \u201cMine\u201d large enough to need a Shri Krishna to give Gita. They killed their close ones any ways. To them, \u201cMine\u201d meant ONLY THEM. <\/p>\n

But here we had a different case. We have someone who is brave, focused, sharp, ruthless fighter yet a loving person, who is thrust in the midst of a war which he did not call for nor did he anticipate the moral difficulties in fighting it. But as he saw what he was up against, his basic character of being a fighter was losing out. Every situation requires a certain type of work to be done. In a war, one cannot access his\/her feminine qualities. Which is what Arjun inadvertently did.<\/p>\n

* Arjun\u2019s circle of \u201cMine\u201d was large enough to bring in the family, but it wasn\u2019t so large as to bring in the entire Humanity in it. That is a different level of compassion. Beyond that Humanity embracing circle of \u201cMine, is a state where everything is \u201cMe\u201d. There is a qualitative and a real difference between \u201cAll is Mine\u201d and \u201cAll is Me\u201d. Shri Krishna\u2019s and Gita\u2019s greatest contribution was the latter. We will discuss this later, when Shri Krishna is asked by Arjun to define himself. In the above verses, Arjun has defined himself clearly. When we go to Chapters 9 and 10, then we will how \u201ca Krishna\u201d defines himself.<\/p>\n

The journey from Arjun\u2019s definition of himself to Shri Krishna\u2019s definition of himself is the journey of every seeker from where he is to the liberation from the message of Bhagwad Gita. If we can discern that gap, we know where to go. Instinctively.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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