{"id":15814,"date":"2012-02-27T04:05:04","date_gmt":"2012-02-27T04:05:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.drishtikone.com\/?p=15814"},"modified":"2012-02-27T04:05:04","modified_gmt":"2012-02-27T04:05:04","slug":"bastardization-of-one-ness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2012\/02\/bastardization-of-one-ness\/","title":{"rendered":"Bastardization of &#8220;One-ness&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>All are equal. \u00a0Every religion is the same. \u00a0All Gods are the same.<\/p>\n<p>These sentiments seem very nice. \u00a0Indeed laudable. \u00a0But when you look a little deeper, they are nothing but nonsensical. \u00a0Worse when such statements are made using the utterances of Realized Beings and Masters, who have spoken in a context totally removed.<\/p>\n<p>Let us first understand the basics.<\/p>\n<p>Religion is NOT Spirituality. \u00a0Religion is based on belief and is a \u201cMind Game\u201d. \u00a0The entire construct is based on words, crafty ones, both written and spoken. \u00a0What Krishna spoke or Buddha said had nothing to do with religion. \u00a0But when a lesser mind of one who follows Buddha refuses to acknowledge the Truth of Krishna and use it as an option to get there himself then he is just indulging in the \u201cMind games\u201d. \u00a0Ditto for one who does it to Buddha or Nanak or Meera.<\/p>\n<p>I am not saying believe anyone of these. \u00a0Please don\u2019t. \u00a0Do not believe in Krishna or Nanak or Buddha. \u00a0Because belief is religion.<\/p>\n<p>Spirituality is experience. \u00a0You cannot believe in Truth, you can only experience it. \u00a0Spiritual Truth cannot be experienced at the level of the body or mind. \u00a0It has to be done at the level of consciousness.<\/p>\n<p>That is why, what is ONE is the consciousness, NOT the body or mind. \u00a0Yes, consciousness is One, but body, thought, and mind aren\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>Gods of the religious are mind constructs. \u00a0They have created attributes \u2013 specifically defined ones \u2013 and such Gods are prisoners of the people who believe in them. \u00a0Gods of religion are therefore not One. \u00a0We try to be nice to say they are. \u00a0Anything of the mind, cannot be One. \u00a0If indeed they were one, then why did one take the trouble of creating their own brand?<\/p>\n<p>So, wanted to share some specific pointers in this context:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The \u201cOne-ness\u201d proponents in general take One-ness of consciousness and extrapolate it to one-ness of mind. \u00a0There is <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><strong>no<\/strong><\/span> one-ness of mind or thought. \u00a0Mind and Thought is purely individual. \u00a0Consciousness is NOT the mind. \u00a0So, let us not be irresponsible about using the buzzwords as we like. \u00a0Mind\/Belief\/Religion are NOT the same as Consciousness\/Experience\/Spiritual.. and you cannot use the concepts from one context interchangeably with the other.<\/li>\n<li>Religion is of the mind, \u00a0and not of consciousness. \u00a0Its god is a defined god (deliberately in lower case) \u2013 with specific characteristics\u2026 and is therefore limited and restricted. \u00a0It has NOTHING to do with Infinite.. \u00a0All the talk of One-ness, Infinite in Religion and Theology is schizophrenic nonsense.<\/li>\n<li>Spirituality starts when physicality and finite ends. \u00a0Spirituality is not a \u201cmind-game\u201d, it is an experiential process.<\/li>\n<li>Religion is belief-centric, Spirituality is experience-centric. \u00a0Lets understand it from Gita\u2019s example \u2013 in the second chapter, Krishna asks Arjun to go fight. \u00a0He refuses point blank. \u00a0Instead in third chapter beginning he complains about he is confused between Jnana and Karma. \u00a0And in the 4th chap beginning he asks directly \u201cHow do I know what you are saying is Truth?\u201d Not once in entire Gita does Arjun say even ONCE that \u201cI believe you\u201d. \u00a0Instead when he sees the Universal self of Krishna he finally says \u201cI KNOW this to be the Truth\u201d. \u00a0Knowing via experience VS Believing someone.<\/li>\n<li>We have confused our limited \u201clove\u201d for Spiritual Love. To talk of both of them in the same breath and use the actions based on the \u201cChicken Soul\u201d type love to extrapolate it to make conclusion of Spiritual Love is like using Newton\u2019s theories to illustrated Einstein\u2019s Relativity. \u00a0It is world apart. \u00a0And the love for a pet or for our lover and Spiritual Love are different not Quantitatively but Qualitatively! \u00a0When the Quality of one\u2019s love for her Beloved transform to become hopeless yet unrelenting, then it begins to get into a position to take her beyond the physical.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>This is the issue with most \u201cintellectuals\u201d \u2013 they are adept at making theories on religion and they extend their expertise to Spirituality. \u00a0The difference between the Religious and Spiritual is QUALITATIVE!<\/p>\n<p>You cannot mix 10 apples and make them taste like Mango! \u00a0So, let us not use the examples and vocabulary interchangeably.<\/p>\n<p>Next time, when you want to talk of the \u201cOne\u201d \u2013 please get to experience it first and then start pontificating on how \u201csuch and such\u201d <em>thing<\/em> is One. \u00a0If you haven\u2019t known the concept of One \u2013 that is still fine. \u00a0But if you have known by hearsay and use your own mind\u2019s nonsense to project it to dimensions that you have NO idea about, then you muddy the waters and bastardize the concept so much that it will be totally useless.<\/p>\n<p>It is better to stay away then to mess it up completely and make it ridiculous.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All are equal. \u00a0Every religion is the same. \u00a0All Gods are the same. 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