{"id":201,"date":"2005-10-07T19:13:19","date_gmt":"2005-10-07T19:13:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2005\/10\/201\/"},"modified":"2005-10-07T19:13:19","modified_gmt":"2005-10-07T19:13:19","slug":"201","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2005\/10\/201\/","title":{"rendered":"The Sun-Google partnership"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><div class=\"flexinode-body flexinode-2\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>URL Link:<\/label><br>\n <a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/news.com.com\/FAQ+The+Sun-Google+partnership\/2100-1012_3-5888783.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">http:\/\/news.com.com\/FAQ+The+Sun-Google+partnership\/2100-1012_3-5888783.html<\/a>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"flexinode-textarea-7\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>Highlights:<\/label>\n<p>\n Tuesday\u2019s (October 4) alliance between Google and Sun Microsystems is a significant development for both companies and for the computing industry.<\/p>\n<p>But there\u2019s a big difference in scope between the grand \u201cmultiyear, strategic agreement\u201d the companies heralded at a press conference Tuesday and the much narrower particulars they actually announced. To make matters more confusing, some of the technology involved is complex, and executives hinted at other elements of cooperation beyond what was in the press release.<\/p>\n<p>What specific move did Sun and Google announce Tuesday?<br>\nWithin 30 days, Sun will begin distributing the Google Toolbar with its Java software when people download the latter from Sun\u2019s Web site. Sun will get \u201cdirect monetary value\u201d from the distribution deal, said John Loiacono, Sun\u2019s executive vice president for software. Google CEO Eric Schmidt said that what separates the Toolbar distribution deal from others the company has is the \u201cvastness\u201d of it. Sun CEO Scott McNealy said the Java software is downloaded 20 million times per month. <\/p>\n<p>The Google Toolbar provides a quick link from Web browsers to Google\u2019s search engine and other features. Sun\u2019s Java provides a software foundation that lets a program run on different types of personal computers.<\/p>\n<p>Google also committed to buying more Sun servers, though Schmidt refused to detail how many or what type. That\u2019s significant, given the search giant\u2019s prestige as an Internet company and its reliance so far on machines it has built itself.<\/p>\n<p>That sounds like a tactical agreement, not a strategic agreement. Is there more?<br>\nSun and Google mostly remained mum, but several executives mentioned other areas of partnership:<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Google, already a member of the Java Community Process steering committee, will become more active.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Sun and Google will engage in joint marketing activities as well as joint research and development.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Pending agreement of project programmers, Sun will add a Google search bar to OpenOffice.org, an office software suite Sun turned into open-source software in 2000.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Google will help Sun with OpenSolaris, its open-source version of the Solaris operating system.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Sun will continue to buy ads through Google. And Google will help distribute OpenOffice. <\/p>\n<p>Solaris, OpenOffice, Java, open-source software\u2013is there anything in the partnership that isn\u2019t aimed directly at Microsoft?<br>\nNot really. Java competes with Microsoft\u2019s .Net and Windows, OpenOffice competes with Microsoft Office, Solaris competes with Windows, and the Google Toolbar provides access to Google online services that compete with Microsoft\u2019s MSN.<\/p>\n<p>Schmidt ducked discussions of Microsoft competition, but Sun President Jonathan Schwartz didn\u2019t: \u201cDo you see Google joining forces with Microsoft on the evolution of .Net? Last I checked, no,\u201d Schwartz said in an interview. And he said that both companies are pushing freely downloadable open-source software in part because \u201cboth of us want to ensure it does not cost you $500 to get access to the Internet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But didn\u2019t Sun bury the hatchet with Microsoft last year? Aren\u2019t they now working together?<br>\nIndeed, McNealy and Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer signed an agreement in April 2004 that settled Sun\u2019s Java-related antitrust lawsuit, shared patents and led to promises of software interoperability. That agreement was the result of customer demands, the companies took pains to emphasize: Many objected to technology from two major suppliers that couldn\u2019t get along. In contrast, Google and Sun are in many ways two sides of the same coin, and Tuesday\u2019s deal with Google began with conversations with the companies\u2019 engineers.<\/p>\n<p>The difference is illustrated in how McNealy described the two deals. Regarding Google, he said: \u201cI think it\u2019s a very natural partnership here. It shouldn\u2019t surprise people that we\u2019re back on stage.\u201d As for Microsoft, he said: \u201cI think it was a required partnership, and the customers wanted it. I got hammered until we announced that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Is there anything to this deal that\u2019s more revolutionary than developing, distributing and promoting each other\u2019s software?<br>\nPerhaps, but executives were reluctant to say much about the possibilities to rework how people use computing services. Even though Sun and Google have plenty of software that runs on personal computers, the companies also are working in their own way to build a world of rich computing services available on the Internet. The boundaries between PC software and network-based computing services are blurring, Schmidt said, but he offered no details about what that means. McNealy was more sweeping, but equally short on specifics: \u201cWe\u2019re working on bringing this network-is-the-computer, Net services environment.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But some see Tuesday\u2019s announcement as evidence that a network-centric vision of the future is coming. \u201cFor many years, Scott McNealy\u2026talked about the network replacing the PC as the platform. In hindsight, his pitch was much too early,\u201d Mark Mahaney, an analyst at Citigroup Research, wrote in a research note. \u201cHowever, today\u2019s announcement indicates that perhaps the Internet can become the platform for applications delivery.\u201d <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"flexinode-textfield-6\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>Source:<\/label><br>\n News.com\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"flexinode-body flexinode-2\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>URL Link:<\/label><br \/>\n <a href=\"http:\/\/http:\/\/news.com.com\/FAQ+The+Sun-Google+partnership\/2100-1012_3-5888783.html\">http:\/\/news.com.com\/FAQ+The+Sun-Google+partnership\/2100-1012_3-5888783.html<\/a>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"flexinode-textarea-7\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>Highlights:<\/label><\/p>\n<p>\n Tuesday&#8217;s (October 4) alliance between Google and Sun Microsystems is a significant development for both companies and for the computing industry.<\/p>\n<p>But there&#8217;s a big difference in scope between the grand &#8220;multiyear, strategic agreement&#8221; the companies heralded at a press conference Tuesday and the much narrower particulars they actually announced. To make matters more confusing, some of the technology involved is complex, and executives hinted at other elements of cooperation beyond what was in the press release.<\/p>\n<p>What specific move did Sun and Google announce Tuesday?<br \/>\nWithin 30 days, Sun will begin distributing the Google Toolbar with its Java software when people download the latter from Sun&#8217;s Web site. Sun will get &#8220;direct monetary value&#8221; from the distribution deal, said John Loiacono, Sun&#8217;s executive vice president for software. Google CEO Eric Schmidt said that what separates the Toolbar distribution deal from others the company has is the &#8220;vastness&#8221; of it. Sun CEO Scott McNealy said the Java software is downloaded 20 million times per month. <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"flexinode-textfield-6\">\n<div class=\"form-item\">\n <label>Source:<\/label><br \/>\n News.com\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"author":1517,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-201","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The Sun-Google partnership<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"URL Link: http:\/\/news.com.com\/FAQ+The+Sun-Google+partnership\/2100-1012_3-5888783.html  Highlights:  Tuesday&#039;s (October 4) alliance between Google and Sun Microsystems is a significant development for both companies and for the computing industry. But there&#039;s a big difference in scope between the grand &quot;multiyear, strategic agreement&quot; the companies heralded at a press conference Tuesday and the much narrower particulars they actually announced. To make matters more confusing, some of the technology involved is complex, and executives hinted at other elements of cooperation beyond what was in the press release. What specific move did Sun and Google announce Tuesday? Within 30 days, Sun will begin distributing the Google Toolbar with its Java software when people download the latter from Sun&#039;s Web site. Sun will get &quot;direct monetary value&quot; from the distribution deal, said John Loiacono, Sun&#039;s executive vice president for software. Google CEO Eric Schmidt said that what separates the Toolbar distribution deal from others the company has is the &quot;vastness&quot; of it. Sun CEO Scott McNealy said the Java software is downloaded 20 million times per month.   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