{"id":5182,"date":"2008-01-18T14:09:14","date_gmt":"2008-01-18T14:09:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2008\/01\/complete-nonsense-religious-values\/"},"modified":"2008-01-18T14:09:14","modified_gmt":"2008-01-18T14:09:14","slug":"complete-nonsense-religious-values","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2008\/01\/complete-nonsense-religious-values\/","title":{"rendered":"The complete nonsense of religious values!"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I went to the blog of <a href=\"http:\/\/jocalling.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/open-letter-to-mar-joseph-powathil.html\" target=\"_blank\" class=\" decorated-link\" rel=\"nofollow\">Joseph Thomas<\/a> (Jo calling) who had challenged the call by an Archbishop to the Christians to send their kids to Christian schools only.  Jo laments how the Christian schools are just into money and how he studied in a far away school, just because his family could not pay the money, and that they are hardly reflecting \u201cChristian Values\u201d!  That made me think.<\/p>\n<p>We have seen this to be prevalent in every ideology and religion \u2013 The Values of that group are held sacred.  But then there are as many values as there are groups!<\/p>\n<p>There are \u201cHindu Values\u201d, there are \u201cIslamic Values\u201d, \u201cCommunist Values\u201d, \u201cCapitalist Values\u201d and values of even the Institutions \u2013 like Harvard values or GE values!  Lets try and analyze what we really mean by values and how nonsensical this entire construct is in the first place!  I will use Jo\u2019s line to discuss it further \u2013 not trying to pick on a particular group or Jo himself (sorry Jo!), but since that is how this thought started off.<\/p>\n<p>Christian Values are discussed.  Now, are Christian Values\u2026 the <i>Values that all Christians LIVE by as a natural fact as soon as they come out of the womb<\/i> or those that <i>they SHOULD live by but dont always<\/i>??<\/p>\n<p> It is quite obvious from the discussion that these are values that Christians are \u201cstrive\u201d to live by!  Hmm\u2026 so why should they live by these values?  Because a religious fountainhead gave it to them.  If this religious fountainhead was even a wee bit serious and had any element of the Universal Consciousness in Him, then it would stand to reason that He would provide something that would be true for the ENTIRE humanity\u2026 actually ENTIRE creation.. rather than a certain hitherto unknown, un-created, and evolving\/changing group!  Isnt it?  Its like I became enlightened suddenly and said.. ok, folks, too bad all you guys who came before me but all those who jump into this box that I will now call \u201cDesh-ism\u201d and live by my 13 cardinal rules will automatically assume that you are living by \u201cGod\u2019s Word\u201d!<!--break--><\/p>\n<p>If they were indeed values that entire humanity should have followed them and then they ought to be HUMAN values as opposed to Christian (or any other group) values!  Isn\u2019t it?<\/p>\n<p>Most of the religious have this constant refrain \u2013 God is what creates and runs this world.  If that is true then what goes on in the world is what God ordained.  The Good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful!  All!  The \u201cdevil\u201d included \u2013 for if anyone else created Devil, then it would imply a \u201chigher\u201d power than God!<\/p>\n<p>Everything, then, should be God\u2019s will!  Right?  Then doesn\u2019t it sound logical that God\u2019s \u201cvalues\u201d will be embedded into the VERY functioning of the creation itself?  The opening up of the bud into a flower, the flowing of the stream, the murder of a toddler, the firing of the rocket.. everything!<\/p>\n<p>The talk of living by values points to this elusive, written code that everyone should change to living by.  What we mean, then, is \u2013 to not live in the natural flow of things but change the ways of the world to get to a way that is written in a book (and this \u201cbook\u201d changes every 100 miles or so on this earth!)  So, now the \u201cnatural embedded values of God\u201d are no more sacred.. instead one should change to particular set.  One that the clergy tells you to live by!  For the original Guy is no longer there!  And THAT is another farce!<\/p>\n<p>These values \u2026 are sacred values BECAUSE they are purported to come from the \u201cHoly One\u201d!  What happened prior to this Holy One appeared?  Were his parents, grand-parents and elder siblings living \u201cvalue-less\u201d lives?  The evangelists and the missionaries go about \u201cspreading the Word of God\u201d because those who have not \u201cheard\u201d it are unfortunate.  By that measure, can you even BEGIN to imagine the misfortune of Jesus\u2019 parents and grandparents??  And, crazy thing is that He was born to such people who lived a completely hopeless and value-less lives!<\/p>\n<p>Excuse me, but if a life of no hope and absence of values \u2013 because of no access to a certain \u201cValue System\u201d can give me a shot at having a kid, or a grand-kid, like Jesus, well then, pray, why do I exactly need to \u201cget\u201d these values?<\/p>\n<p>So do you see the nonsense?  In a strange ironical way, the religious speak from both sides of their mouth!  One, God decides everything that runs in this world, and Second, He could not do a good enough job and sent a messenger to create a static set of statements that should NOW govern his Values-less, immoral creation!  This religious God is at best a Schizophrenic!  He just cannot decide!   Or is it?<\/p>\n<p>\u2026..Or Is it us?  Who is this \u201cGod\u201d?  He is also our own creation!  We, through our own psychologies have created God in our own image.  Some have Him tall, some have Him dark, some have Him rich, some have Him Weak, some have Him strong\u2026 we all have a God.  We have given names \u2013 Jesus, Buddha, Krishna.. but do these names mean the same thing to every follower?  Ask 4 of your co-religionists\u2026. then wait for 2 weeks, and ask again!  Do you see the idiocy of this Godliness?<\/p>\n<p>If you look through the charade of religion and values you will see that \u201cValues\u201d are like a pole that everyone wants to be tied to.. but if everyone were to ask him\/herself honestly\u2026. one will discover that he\/she was NEVER even close!  Why?  Because there is something else beyond your \u201cBook\u201d and the sacred that takes you in a direction that is difficult to control!  And you do not even know what that is!  If there is indeed any God, then He\/She\/It should be reflected in every moment.. every inch\u2026. every creation\u2026 every emotion of the this Universe (and beyond).. if not, then this \u201cGod\u201d really does not matter!<\/p>\n<p>If you really look at it, you need to answer a basic question \u2013 Is God reflected in a \u201cvalue\u201d or does the Truth that this creation is, a reflection of God?  What are we seeking?  If we are indeed in search of Truth that God is, then would it change for anyone?  ANYONE.. mosquitos, fishes, the dacoits, the Saints?  Or even if you never discovered Truth that God represents.. would it change?  Is the Eternal dependent on YOU discovering it?  Are you more important than the Truth \u2013 in the sense that YOU have to discover the \u201cWord\u201d to make a difference in this World?  Or are \u201cyou\u201d unimportant in the larger game of cosmos?<\/p>\n<p>Use gravity to understand this.  Does gravity change because you read about it\u2019s \u201ctheory\u201d in the physics class?  Does gravity \u201cstrengthen\u201d because you scored an \u201cA\u201d in your physics exam?  If not, then do values really matter\u2026 to you?  To God?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I went to the blog of <a href=\"http:\/\/jocalling.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/open-letter-to-mar-joseph-powathil.html\" target=\"_blank\">Joseph Thomas<\/a> (Jo calling) who had challenged the call by an Archbishop to the Christians to send their kids to Christian schools only.  Jo laments how the Christian schools are just into money and how he studied in a far away school, just because his family could not pay the money, and that they are hardly reflecting &#8220;Christian Values&#8221;!  That made me think.<\/p>\n<p>We have seen this to be prevalent in every ideology and religion &#8211; The Values of that group are held sacred.  But then there are as many values as there are groups!<\/p>\n<p>There are &#8220;Hindu Values&#8221;, there are &#8220;Islamic Values&#8221;, &#8220;Communist Values&#8221;, &#8220;Capitalist Values&#8221; and values of even the Institutions &#8211; like Harvard values or GE values!  Lets try and analyze what we really mean by values and how nonsensical this entire construct is in the first place!  I will use Jo&#8217;s line to discuss it further &#8211; not trying to pick on a particular group or Jo himself (sorry Jo!), but since that is how this thought started off.<\/p>\n<p>Christian Values are discussed.  Now, are Christian Values&#8230; the <i>Values that all Christians LIVE by as a natural fact as soon as they come out of the womb<\/i> or those that <i>they SHOULD live by but dont always<\/i>??<\/p>\n<p> It is quite obvious from the discussion that these are values that Christians are &#8220;strive&#8221; to live by!  Hmm&#8230; so why should they live by these values?  Because a religious fountainhead gave it to them.  If this religious fountainhead was even a wee bit serious and had any element of the Universal Consciousness in Him, then it would stand to reason that He would provide something that would be true for the ENTIRE humanity&#8230; actually ENTIRE creation.. rather than a certain hitherto unknown, un-created, and evolving\/changing group!  Isnt it?  Its like I became enlightened suddenly and said.. ok, folks, too bad all you guys who came before me but all those who jump into this box that I will now call &#8220;Desh-ism&#8221; and live by my 13 cardinal rules will automatically assume that you are living by &#8220;God&#8217;s Word&#8221;!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1517,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[63,69],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-religion","category-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>The complete nonsense of religious values!<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I went to the blog of Joseph Thomas (Jo calling) who had challenged the call by an Archbishop to the Christians to send their kids to Christian schools only. Jo laments how the Christian schools are just into money and how he studied in a far away school, just because his family could not pay the money, and that they are hardly reflecting &quot;Christian Values&quot;! That made me think. We have seen this to be prevalent in every ideology and religion - The Values of that group are held sacred. But then there are as many values as there are groups! There are &quot;Hindu Values&quot;, there are &quot;Islamic Values&quot;, &quot;Communist Values&quot;, &quot;Capitalist Values&quot; and values of even the Institutions - like Harvard values or GE values! Lets try and analyze what we really mean by values and how nonsensical this entire construct is in the first place! I will use Jo&#039;s line to discuss it further - not trying to pick on a particular group or Jo himself (sorry Jo!), but since that is how this thought started off. Christian Values are discussed. 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Jo laments how the Christian schools are just into money and how he studied in a far away school, just because his family could not pay the money, and that they are hardly reflecting \"Christian Values\"! That made me think. We have seen this to be prevalent in every ideology and religion - The Values of that group are held sacred. But then there are as many values as there are groups! There are \"Hindu Values\", there are \"Islamic Values\", \"Communist Values\", \"Capitalist Values\" and values of even the Institutions - like Harvard values or GE values! Lets try and analyze what we really mean by values and how nonsensical this entire construct is in the first place! I will use Jo's line to discuss it further - not trying to pick on a particular group or Jo himself (sorry Jo!), but since that is how this thought started off. Christian Values are discussed. 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