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Humanity has always been curious about mixing breeds and species. First it was the horses and dogs and just some species of plants like roses etc. Then people got adventurous and brought in creatures like Liger<\/a> \u2013 a mix between Lion and a Tiger, which some people term as the \u201cultimate killing machine\u201d.<\/p>\n

Since the last decade, scientists have been getting closer to creating human clones. So, obviously the next question would have been \u2013 what about animal and<\/b> human? There are enough legends in that area \u2013 of Mermaids and Centaur. The Indian stories are full of monkeys and other animals talking and fighting with the humans. So, was it part of human history ever? Are we coming a full circle or is it the fructifying of human desires? Whatever the truth be, it might be happening soon.<\/p>\n

DK Matai<\/a> discusses the three streams of such experimental creatures being thought about.<\/p>\n

1. A Chimera is produced when a human embryo is fused with an animal embryo;
\n2. An Hybrid is produced when a human female egg is fertilised with animal sperm or vice-versa; and
\n3. A \u201cCybrid\u201d is produced when an animal cell\u2019s genetic material is removed and replaced with human genetic material.<\/p>\n

DK says \u201c\u2026after 10 years of stem cell research, scientists are now facing difficulty with cell therapy from the present human embryonic stem cell experimentation. The next phase involves human-animal combinations via Chimeras, Hybrids and Cybrids.\u201d<\/p>\n

He cites two examples when attempts have been made at fusion:<\/p>\n

\u2013 Soviet Union\u2019s top scientists, Professor Ilya Ivanov, tried to impregnate female chimpanzees with human sperm in Africa in order to create a human-chimpanzee hybrid
\n\u2013 In August 2003, Hui Zhen Sheng of Shanghai Second Medical University, China, announced that rabbit-human \u2018cybrid\u2019 embryos had been created. Researchers fused adult human material with rabbit eggs stripped of their original genetic material and created rabbit-human hybrid embryos which developed to approximately the 100-cell stage, after about four days of development.<\/p>\n

Despite his pro-science leanings and his liberal view on things, DK is worried. I am sure many are. And I can understand their issue with these steps.<\/p>\n

Personally, however, I do not see a need to be worried. The reasons are:<\/p>\n

1. If the world as we know comes to be ruled by this new creature\/species which kills all of human population because of an experiment gone wrong, well then so be it. At least a more powerful creature would be alive and hopefully would not be using any Nukes for a while. To suppose that humans have this \u201cGod given\u201d responsibility to calibrate or manage nature is very egotistic. I am under no illusion that I or even Albert Einstein was the greatest creation that nature could come up with. Wait a few centuries for the latest update on this front. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n

2. How do we know for certainty that \u201cWE\u201d arent any experiment gone wrong!? Seriously. What has human given to the nature and the Universe? Net-net, except for self serving plans and eulogies to his\/her greatness and destruction of whatever s\/he came across, what have we ADDED to the Universe? Really nothing!<\/p>\n

3. I do not like to kid myself that I or anyone I know is the keeper of morality of the Universe. In this Universe, bigger galaxies keep eating up the smaller galaxies, and I literally cannot do a sh*t about it.<\/p>\n

I am against violence<\/b> and colonialism<\/b> (ok, so I have it in bold, to emphasize!).. but how do I keep the small galaxies alive? Its a Cosmic Rights<\/b> issue alright.. but how does one go about it?? And what doesn\u2019t work for the lovely little, innocent, peaceful galaxy floating out there in gay abandon, why in the name of the creator of this Universe, should it work for Humans or animals or the small atoms. Heck, break the freaking atom and let the world alight! Let the bigger devour the smaller one.<\/p>\n

Ok, what I saying is that there is no such thing as a cosmic morality. So, should any other morality and ethics or codes be relevant then??<\/p>\n

Is morality really \u2013 \u201cHow the world works?\u201d Or \u201chow I THINK<\/b> it should<\/u><\/b> work??\u201d<\/p>\n

There is subtle but a BIG difference in the two positions. I don\u2019t think we really look at it that way. But honestly, what is the OTHER WAY?<\/p>\n

Truth is that if we were humble and honest to our selves, we would stop discussing \u201cmorals\u201d or any of those arbitrary created codes by the ruler of the day!<\/p>\n

Now, while you worry about my immorality and how my thoughts are going to take humanity down the drain\u2026 here is a reminder that animals could fall in our trap as well.<\/p>\n

Conan, the Chihuahua<\/a>, has become a buddhist<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Mimicking his master, priest Joei Yoshikuni, a 1 1\/2-year-old black-and-white Chihuahua named Conan joins in the daily prayers at Naha\u2019s Shuri Kannondo temple, sitting up on his hind legs and putting his front paws together before the altar. Well, if praying was not enough, he is going to get a crash course in Meditation! If recitation of words while closing ones eyes without introspection or self-analysis was meditation (which it is for most!) then this small guy fits the bill perfectly! He will get to the \u201cLord\u201d faster than his master. I mean, he doesnt care about the next door neighbor\u2019s Mercedes or his next salary or about morality of the Universe. His mind will be easier to still than any human\u2019s!<\/p>\n

And while we are at it, lets get a parrot in the temple as well and get it to learn some meditation and prayer. Imagine \u2013 this thing would be even vegetarian and could recite any shloka or words of the Enlightends for hours on end!<\/p>\n

Now, if the animal\/human fusion does happen as DK surmizes, then at least we would know what the animals think when we hurt them and kick them! THAT is what we should be really really worried about! Can you imagine the cursing that you would hear in a farm where the animals are raised for meat\u2026 the pigs will be shouting their throats out and chickens will be all over about what they think of your Mother\/sister\u2019s anatomy! \ud83d\ude42 Now, that should be interesting!<\/p>\n

And, if there were only fused animals left, how moral would it be to eat meat of you \u201chalf brother\u201d? THAT would be a real dilemma. Cannibalism \u2013 is it part of Universal morality?<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Humanity has always been curious about mixing breeds and species. First it was the horses and dogs and just some species of plants like roses etc. Then people got adventurous and brought in creatures like Liger<\/a> – a mix between Lion and a Tiger, which some people term as the “ultimate killing machine”.<\/p>\n

Since the last decade, scientists have been getting closer to creating human clones. So, obviously the next question would have been – what about animal and<\/b> human? There are enough legends in that area – of Mermaids and Centaur. The Indian stories are full of monkeys and other animals talking and fighting with the humans. So, was it part of human history ever? Are we coming a full circle or is it the fructifying of human desires? Whatever the truth be, it might be happening soon.<\/p>\n

DK Matai<\/a> discusses the three streams of such experimental creatures being thought about.<\/p>\n

1. A Chimera is produced when a human embryo is fused with an animal embryo;
\n2. An Hybrid is produced when a human female egg is fertilised with animal sperm or vice-versa; and
\n3. A “Cybrid” is produced when an animal cell’s genetic material is removed and replaced with human genetic material.<\/p>\n

DK says “…after 10 years of stem cell research, scientists are now facing difficulty with cell therapy from the present human embryonic stem cell experimentation. The next phase involves human-animal combinations via Chimeras, Hybrids and Cybrids.”<\/p>\n

He cites two examples when attempts have been made at fusion:<\/p>\n

– Soviet Union’s top scientists, Professor Ilya Ivanov, tried to impregnate female chimpanzees with human sperm in Africa in order to create a human-chimpanzee hybrid
\n– In August 2003, Hui Zhen Sheng of Shanghai Second Medical University, China, announced that rabbit-human ‘cybrid’ embryos had been created. Researchers fused adult human material with rabbit eggs stripped of their original genetic material and created rabbit-human hybrid embryos which developed to approximately the 100-cell stage, after about four days of development.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1517,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[29,64,69],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5521","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-health__medicine","category-sciences","category-spirituality"],"yoast_head":"\nFusion of Animals and Humans and our "Morality"<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Humanity has always been curious about mixing breeds and species. 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