{"id":8041,"date":"2009-04-24T08:37:02","date_gmt":"2009-04-24T08:37:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2009\/04\/hillary-clinton-us-engagement-pak-we-are-harvesting-what-we-sowed\/"},"modified":"2009-04-24T08:37:02","modified_gmt":"2009-04-24T08:37:02","slug":"hillary-clinton-us-engagement-pak-we-are-harvesting-what-we-sowed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/drishtikone\/2009\/04\/hillary-clinton-us-engagement-pak-we-are-harvesting-what-we-sowed\/","title":{"rendered":"Hillary Clinton on US Engagement in Pak &#8211; we are harvesting what we sowed"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>For last two days, Hillary Clinton has been making statements that I never thought any US administration official could ever make.  But today\u2019s statement below is completely astounding as it comes from the highest foreign policy official from Obama Administration.  It might be music to many in Pakistan and a rather stinging assessment of the previous administrations.  Worth recording.<\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cWe can point fingers at the Pakistanis. I did some yesterday frankly. And its merited because we are wondering why they just don\u2019t go out out there and deal with these people\u2026 But the problems we face now to some extent we have to take responsibility for having contributed to it. 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