{"id":11982,"date":"2017-06-16T07:23:31","date_gmt":"2017-06-16T11:23:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11982"},"modified":"2017-06-17T22:07:57","modified_gmt":"2017-06-18T02:07:57","slug":"god-came-book-questions-m","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/god-came-book-questions-m\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Jesus Came Before the Internet &#8211;Questions From M"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/169\/2017\/06\/Arco_di_Tito_opt.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11983\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-11983\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/169\/2017\/06\/Arco_di_Tito_opt.jpg\" alt=\"Arco_di_Tito_opt\" width=\"350\" height=\"342\"><\/a>\u201cI would do what you are doing,\u201d the student said to me, \u201cwithout your errors.\u201d He listed them for me and he was mostly right. So it goes if you start things. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We were doing well enough that students forgot it was amazing our program existed at all. They began to worry. One student worried about our timing: what if we had waited longer, planned more, and executed better? I did not want to point out that this meant that\u00a0<i>he<\/i>\u00a0would not have gotten the education he was enjoying! Whatever the merits of his general argument, he was right about what needed fixing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">He reminded me of my strategy for marriage and parenthood when I got married: I would just be like my awesome folks minus their mistakes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">This was not. . . helpful to me. Getting rid of the mistakes I had seen? That was easy, more or less. Doing what Mom and Dad did right? That turned out to be very, very (insert very\u00a0many\u00a0more uses of \u201cvery\u201d) difficult. Mom and Dad made their virtues look easy and their vices equally easy to correct.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I hope I had done the same for the\u00a0sophomore so that he could take for granted what was good about his education<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>(given the awesome team), but what was bad in me looked (relatively) easy to correct.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201cIf Only\u201d is an Endless Game<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A counter-factual\u2014what could have been done, but was not done\u2014is hard to refute. The alternative exists in a happy\u00a0fact-free\u00a0world where actual problems are no more and all the good that came is multiplied. I am skeptical of such claims! <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">So we turn to M*\u2019s question for today:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">20. Assuming for the sake of argument that God is omniscient, etc., would it not make more sense for him to have waited a mere 2,000 more years until human beings created computers, the internet, cell phones, Facebook, etc. to reveal himself through writing, or perhaps a divinely inspired APP or software program?\u00a0 That would have assured he reached a lot more people.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Oddly, I normally hear from skeptics that God came too late. Why wait thousands of years to reveal Himself? Why not come faster? Wouldn\u2019t having Jesus around, and not merely His image Joshua, have made the \u201cconquest\u201d more merciful? Why wait?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I respond that the world was fragmented at the time of Joshua and getting the message out (hard enough in Roman times) would have been even harder. The world was (at least in one hemisphere) about as united politically as it has ever been. An astonishing percentage of the world\u2019s population lived in fewer than ten great empires.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Now I am asked: why not later?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Why not?<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Why Jesus Isn\u2019t Your Facebook Friend<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Jesus came. A book did not come. A software program did not come. A person came. People saw Him, talked to Him, and saw His awesome power. This\u00a0<i>cannot\u00a0<\/i>be experienced by video. There is no \u201clive\u201d streaming, not really; we are seeing pixels on our screen light up and reproduce what is happening at (almost) that moment some place else. This is not the same as being there, as anyone in love knows.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Tonight I am thousands of miles from Hope. Streaming is not the same as really seeing her. She is not here. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Imagine now divinity: the ineffable, the sublime that I cannot capture in English despite the centuries of polishing that has gone into this medium. How would one even pretend to capture the Divine in an application?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Jesus came to have an intimate relationship with a group of students that would become friends. Despite the vaunted boasts of technology, a man or woman can only have so many intimate friends. We are flesh and to know us, truly know us, is to know us in the flesh and to talk, walk, laugh, play, and sorrow with us. There was never a time when Jesus could have had more real friends.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">He might have had 5,000 Facebook friends and fed them all with a stream of holy news, but\u00a0<i>none of us on his feed would have been his true disciples.\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">How You Can Study With Jesus Today<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Jesus had to leave us so the Holy Spirit could come and make it possible for what Jesus had done to be multiplied. God so loved the world that He came, sent His Holy Spirit to live in me, and did not send a Tweet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I can teach only so many people. Technology lets me send information to many people, but no more students can study with me and really learn today than could two thousand years ago. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The great tragedy of our time is that we think that if Jesus or Socrates or Martin Luther King came\u00a0<i>now<\/i>\u00a0more of us could learn from them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">No.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">More of us can hear their inspired words now, but no more of us can be their disciples, except in one case: Jesus. Why? He left us and sent the Holy Spirit who will disciple each of us personally. The Holy Spirit does not need an App. He came to me, M*, and filled me and helped me turn to the pages of Scripture. He enlivened my spirit to\u00a0<i>see and hear the True Light.\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I bow each week at the altar rail and take His Body and Blood, multiplied, yet there in the flesh for me. There is no technology that could bring that to me faster.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Jesus came in the flesh, talked to those who could directly hear His voice, and then sent His Holy Spirit to do the same for\u00a0billions,\u00a0world without end.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Hurrah!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">*M is a non-Christian that sent me <strong>55 questions<\/strong> earlier this year. He has asked that I not reveal his or her name. I will write as if \u201che\u201d is a male, but this is for convenience. I do not know if I will get to all his questions. \u00a0I try to limit my answers to hundreds and not thousands of words. Here are questions <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11698&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11709&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/god-not-exist-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11842&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">6,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11852&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">7,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11896&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">8<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/god-good-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">12<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/inspired-much-in%E2%80%A6tion-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">14<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/contra-contradictions-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">16<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/no-contradictions-cool-not-enough-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">17<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11883&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">19<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11982&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">20<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/jesus-history-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">23<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11783&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">26<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11773&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">27<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/lawyers-devils-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">28<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11927&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">33<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11675&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">34<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11656&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">35<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/questions-m-illiterate-disciples-written-gospels\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a037<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/going-bed-tacitus-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">38<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11902&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">39<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/always-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">40<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11865&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">44<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/mind-body-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">47<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/11646\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">54<\/a>\u00a0, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/11646\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">55<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">** My job has been to help start new things: the Torrey Honors at Biola University, an amazing cultural apologetics and film program, and now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saintconstantine.org\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">The Saint Constantine School<\/a>. I hope that the mistakes get fixed by Paul Spears (who came after me at Torrey) and the great team in apologetics and film. One does what one can.<\/p>\n<p><em>This piece was edited by Rachel Motte.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI would do what you are doing,\u201d the student said to me, \u201cwithout your errors.\u201d He listed them for me and he was mostly right. So it goes if you start things. We were doing well enough that students forgot it was amazing our program existed at all. They began to worry. 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