{"id":11992,"date":"2017-06-17T06:43:04","date_gmt":"2017-06-17T10:43:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11992"},"modified":"2017-06-19T21:02:50","modified_gmt":"2017-06-20T01:02:50","slug":"author-author-questions-m","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/author-author-questions-m\/","title":{"rendered":"Who Were the New Testament Authors? Who Cares? &#8211;Questions from M"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/169\/2016\/11\/photo-1473508476344-269a87b502ee_opt.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-9743\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-9743\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/169\/2016\/11\/photo-1473508476344-269a87b502ee_opt.jpg\" alt=\"photo-1473508476344-269a87b502ee_opt\" width=\"600\" height=\"314\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We are a culture that likes celebrities. Making art is one way to become a celebrity, though not the easiest. Fans gather around writers whose weaker works even find defenders in fandom: see Joss Whedon about\u00a0<i>Dollhouse.\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Yet in another\u00a0way,\u00a0the artist, even the biography of the artist, is less important than the work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I was blessed enough to study Homer in graduate school after scholars got over their destruction of the text looking for \u201cinfluences\u201d and searching for an author. Who wrote\u00a0<i>Iliad<\/i>? Was the author of\u00a0<i>Iliad<\/i>\u00a0the same person as the author of the\u00a0<i>Odyssey?\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Who can be sure? Who cares?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The Iliad and the Odyssey as we have them are brilliant works. I am thankful my professors (Dr. Alfred Geier!) read the text as we have it before turning to endless theorizing about sources and writers. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Of course, speculation about authors of ancient works is the fountain of eternal dissertation ideas since falsifying any plausible idea is unlikely. A sufficiently clever \u201cscholar\u201d can weave together speculation from a bit of text as quickly as Fox Mulder could find signs of aliens in a trampled corn field. \u00a0On the\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_X-Files\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><span class=\"s2\">X-Files<\/span><\/a>, however, the aliens often come to confirm Mulder\u2019s wild ideas, while the alternate authors to Homer stay out there in left field.<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The Truth is Out There<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">This brings me to a question from my summertime interlocutor M*:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"p2\"><span class=\"s1\">36. How do you know who the authors of the New Testament actually were (or any authors of the Bible, for that matter)?<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>First<\/b>, many New Testament documents claim an author (Paul in\u00a0Romans). <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Second<\/b>, other documents contain clues to the other author such as the Gospel according to John where the perspective on Jesus moves from that of\u00a0<i>John<\/i>\u00a0the Baptist to the disciple whom Jesus loved. It doesn\u2019t take Mulder level speculation to guess the author. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Third<\/b>, church history preserves traditions about the author. Without evidence to the contrary, I see no good reason to doubt such claims. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>Finally<\/b>, nobody knows who wrote\u00a0Hebrews\u00a0yet the early Church recognized the inspiration in the text.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The epistles we have are very old compared to the formation of the Church. A heretic was referring to the epistle to the Ephesians by 150! We have a fragment of the Gospel of John from 120. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The\u00a0<i>phenomenon<\/i>\u00a0is what must be explained and we have an explanation: Jesus rose from the dead, His students and friends were gobsmacked and the world was never the same. Whoever collected the stories they told, these stories have the ring of recollection and not of myth\u2014and I read both for a living.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I generally accept traditional authorship, because arguments to the contrary always seem assumption laden to me. One has a manuscript like\u00a0Ephesians<i>\u00a0<\/i>that claims to be from Paul and we know it existed by the late first century. We have no external evidence that Paul did not write\u00a0Ephesians<i>.<\/i>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">As with Homer scholars, it is easy to pick at the traditional author because you do not have to propose an alternative! In the case of Homer, we have texts that are centuries after the \u201cauthor\u201d lived . . . in the case of the New Testament authors, decades.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Centuries are very different from decades!<\/span><\/p>\n<h4 class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">We are not mere fanboys in the Christian faith<\/span><\/h4>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I am not sure what a skeptic thinks is at risk when we discuss authorship. We do not care as much who God used to write a great, inspired text as we care to read it and learn. We were willing, after all, to accept a book with an apostolic flavor when we were not sure what apostle was behind the book\u00a0<i>(<\/i>Hebrews<i>).\u00a0<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Isn\u2019t authorship pressed in order to undercut the claims that the Gospels are based on\u00a0eyewitness\u00a0testimony to the events? I suspect so and yet the skeptic\u2019s next move will be to claim that eyewitness testimony is oft in error. As far as it goes, I suspect that if Mark was not written by Mark, then it almost surely is a collection, by a community of students, of stories based on other written accounts, sermons by Mark, and stories that had stood the test of time. Recollect there would have been people alive from the time of Jesus when the books were put together.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">A community putting together what they took to be the truth sounds very good to me! We know Luke, or whoever wrote Luke\/Acts, claims to have adopted that very model. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">This much we know: Jesus surely lived and was crucified by Pontius Pilate. Jesus\u2019 followers were all over the ancient world within decades of His death claiming He was alive. This was not normal Jewish behavior!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">If I were to be a New Testament writer\u2019s fanboy, I would follow John Mark. My parents named me after him and his life has been a bit like my own: the youth with a great many chances who blew it and then became useful for service. His very name echoes my career studying Jerusalem and Athens: John (Jewish wisdom) and Mark (Roman might). Yet if John Mark did not write the Gospel of Mark, if his faithful students in Alexandria put together his stories and sermons, then I am not crushed.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The book of Mark\u00a0is what I really have to study, love, and learn. The Holy Spirit is here now to help me read the great text.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Let\u2019s read Mark!<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014\u2014<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">*M is a non-Christian that sent me <strong>55 questions<\/strong> earlier this year. He has asked that I not reveal his or her name. I will write as if \u201che\u201d is a male, but this is for convenience. I do not know if I will get to all his questions. \u00a0I try to limit my answers to hundreds and not thousands of words. Here are questions <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11698&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">1<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11709&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">2<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/god-not-exist-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">3<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11842&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">6,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11852&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">7,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11896&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">8<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/god-good-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">12<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/inspired-much-in%E2%80%A6tion-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">14<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/contra-contradictions-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">16<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/no-contradictions-cool-not-enough-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">17<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11883&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">19<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11982&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">20<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/jesus-history-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">23<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11783&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">26<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11773&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">27<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/lawyers-devils-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">28<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11927&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">33<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11675&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">34<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11656&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">35<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11992&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">36,<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/questions-m-illiterate-disciples-written-gospels\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">\u00a037<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/going-bed-tacitus-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">38<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11902&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">39<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/always-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">40<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/?p=11865&amp;preview=true\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">44<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/06\/mind-body-questions-m\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">47<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/11646\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">54<\/a>\u00a0, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/eidos\/2017\/05\/11646\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">55<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>This post was edited by Rachel Motte.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are a culture that likes celebrities. 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