{"id":1308,"date":"2024-09-24T18:12:12","date_gmt":"2024-09-24T22:12:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/embracingtruthescapingtradition\/?p=1308"},"modified":"2024-09-24T18:12:12","modified_gmt":"2024-09-24T22:12:12","slug":"women-preaching-answering-1-timothy-3-2-objection","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/embracingtruthescapingtradition\/2024\/09\/women-preaching-answering-1-timothy-3-2-objection\/","title":{"rendered":"So, Why Can&#8217;t Women Preach?: Answering 5 More Objections"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p><figure id=\"attachment_1314\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1314\" style=\"width: 319px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-1314\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/sites\/1818\/2024\/09\/pexels-kairospanama-20838855-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"319\" height=\"479\"><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1314\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by Kairos\/\u00a0Panam\u00e1\/pexels.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In my <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/embracingtruthescapingtradition\/2024\/09\/why-cant-women-preach-answering-5-common-objections\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\">previous post,<\/a> I addressed five common objections against women preachers and teachers for you to consider. Here are answers to 5 more frequent protests against women speaking in the church.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1. \u201cA pastor must be the husband of one wife and therefore, only men qualify, since a woman can\u2019t be the husband of a wife.\u201d<\/span><\/h2>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cThis is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; (1 Tim. 3:1-2 NKJV)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There are several things to note here.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First, in several translations, 1 Timothy 3:1 is translated as \u201cif a<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> man<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> desires\u2026\u201d and many use this to argue against women preachers, stating it explicitly says \u201cman.\u201d However, the word that\u2019s used in the Greek text is the pronoun <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u03c4\u03b9\u03c2 <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">which generally means \u201canyone\u201d or \u201csomeone\u201d and can refer to either a male or female. So off the top, it seems to me as if someone had an agenda.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Second, <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.gotquestions.org\/overseer-in-the-church.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Gotquestions.org states<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">: \u201cFirst Timothy 3:2 specifically says that the overseer is to be \u2018faithful to his wife.\u2019 This assumes he is a man.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, if that\u2019s the case, then it also assumes that he is a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">married<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> man. In appealing again to common sense, if this verse excludes a woman from being an overseer because she\u2019s not a husband and doesn\u2019t have a wife, then that means, as many have often pointed out, that it also excludes Paul and other males who aren\u2019t married and also males who don\u2019t have any children from holding this office (1 Tim. 3:4).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If this reasoning can be applied to one gender then it should also be true for the other. Otherwise, one no longer holds a reasonable view or position, but is simply prejudiced against women.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Third, a pastor is not the same thing as an overseer. Many believe they are because of Acts 20:28, where Paul, speaking to the elders (plural) at the church at Ephesus says,<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cKeep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.\u201c\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This translation from the NIV and several other translations, translate the Greek verb <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">poimainein<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> as \u201cbe shepherds\u201d of the church of God. However, the word <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">poimaino <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">here,<\/span> <span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is in the infinitive form. Therefore, it actually says \u201c<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">to shepherd<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201d the church of God.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In other words, the elders, made as watchmen by the Holy Spirit, are \u201cto tend\u201d to God\u2019s people, by caring for them and watching over them, faithfully and attentively, as would a shepherd. This doesn\u2019t <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">make<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> them shepherds anymore than \u201cdoctoring\u201d on someone makes me a doctor. But their job involves some aspect of shepherding or \u201ccaring\u201d for the sheep.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Furthermore, 1 Peter 2:25 describes Jesus Christ himself as the \u201cShepherd and Overseer of your souls.\u201d Now, was it necessary to use two different words to describe the same role? Or did Peter want them to understand that Christ is both the ultimate caretaker <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> protector of their souls?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To add, the verb <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">poimaino<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> can also mean \u201cgovern, guide, care for, or herd,\u201d and metaphorically, it can also mean \u201cto cherish.\u201d All these are alternate translations that may be suitable and even better in this context. The same holds true for 1 Peter 5:4, which states:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cSo I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a partaker in the glory that is going to be revealed: shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; not domineering over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock. And when the chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the unfading crown of glory.\u201d (1 Ptr. 5:1-4 ESV)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, then, they were to care for the flock, specifically by <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">exercising oversight <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">rather than by performing general pastoral duties such as feeding, cleaning, and tending to the sick and wounded, physically and\/or figuratively.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But, people will say a pastor and overseer are the same, because at some point, someone made that determination based on these verses, and everyone went along with it instead of thinking through it themselves.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Alone, these two passages do not conclude that a shepherd is the same role as an overseer, and I\u2019ve encountered no better argument that suggests they are.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Likewise, an overseer is not the same as an elder (older, generally wise man). Another crucial point to consider regarding Acts 20:28, is that it tells us something specific. It tells us that the elders in Ephesus served as overseers within their congregation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, what it doesn\u2019t say or imply, is that all elders everywhere are automatically overseers, nor does it prevent overseers from being individuals other than elders. This just happened to be the case in Ephesus, and perhaps it was for a reason.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In addition, Peter also urged the elders of certain provinces to \u201cwatch over\u201d the flock, most likely referring to overseeing. Yet, this still doesn\u2019t support the claim that all elders are also overseers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Suppose some retirees in Washington and Florida work as Walmart Greeters. Then are all retirees in the United States Walmart Greeters? Why then do all elders in the church have to be overseers? As far as I know, the Bible doesn\u2019t confirm either way, but rather we\u2019ve made a pattern out of basic information we\u2019ve collected.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is not \u201cthree different words to describe the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">same<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> role.\u201d There are distinct meanings and characteristics associated with each word. The common assumption that the terms \u201celder,\u201d \u201coverseer,\u201d and \u201cpastor\u201d are synonymous and interchangeable, reflects a hasty and oversimplified understanding of both the words and the passages.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, what <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> an overseer?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Greek word<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> episkopos (\u03b5\u03c0\u03b9<\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u03c3\u03ba\u03bf\u03c0\u03cc\u03c2<\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">) <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">has been translated in English Bibles as either \u201cbishop\u201d or \u201coverseer.\u201d Therefore, in Scripture, the words \u201cbishop\u201d and \u201coverseer\u201d can be used interchangeably.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From its use in Greek mythology, ancient Greek government, and also in the Septuagint, an <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">episkopos<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> can be best understood as a \u201cprotector of a covenant,\u201d or one with authority, who ensures things go according to the way they\u2019re supposed to. As their primary function, they \u201cwatch-over\u201d or \u201cguard,\u201d while pastors provide direct care. It might be best to describe the differences between the two using an example.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the context of a church, a pastor would correspond to a shepherd caring for the flock. An overseer, however, is more comparable to what is known as a <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Livestock_guardian_dog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">livestock guardian dog, or \u201cLGD<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.\u201d A livestock guardian dog (LGD) dwells within the flock, safeguarding it from predators. This is probably why Peter instructs: \u201ctend to the flock of God that is <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">among<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> you.\u201d (please note: \u201c<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">among<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> you\u201d not a \u201c<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">under<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> you\u201d)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is the joint responsibility of shepherds and LGDs, to tend to the herd, though both have very different roles. While the dogs aren\u2019t considered shepherds, they care for the flock by looking out for the sheep. And although the shepherd may defend the sheep, as David did in an immediate attack (1 Sam. 17:34-37), they can\u2019t be on the lookout for danger 24-7 as LGDs can. There are many other tasks they need to accomplish.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Therefore, an LGD must be trustworthy, not running off and abandoning the flock at the sight of a \u201cbone,\u201d (a bribe or selfish-gain) or acting aggressively or harmful toward the sheep (Ex. 18:21; 1 Ptr. 5:2-3; 1 Tim. 3:3). To perform their important work, they undergo intense training before they\u2019re stationed alone in the field. This concept of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">episkopos <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is depicted in Scripture.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cI know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.\u201d (Acts 20:29-31)\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ve written more about <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/embracingtruthescapingtradition\/2024\/09\/bishops-overseers-role\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\" class=\" decorated-link\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">episkopos<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> here, which may help you better understand the rest of my point. But the Apostle Paul would have been considered an episkopos, or \u201coverseer,\u201d among his many other roles.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Similar to an <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">episkopos<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in ancient Greek government, Paul traveled not only to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">establish<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> churches, but he regularly visited them and wrote authoritative letters to them to ensure they were staying on the correct path. This was the purpose of his letter to Timothy.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cAlthough I hope to come to you soon, I am writing you these instructions so that, if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God\u2019s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.\u201d (1 Tim. 3:14-15)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Paul was not appointed an apostle or overseer by men, but he was given special authority by the King to set up these various churches and help them walk in the ways of the King (Gal. 1:1). He was a chief watcher among the church, who instructed the elders at Ephesus, who were also watchmen among their congregation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, you see, 1 Timothy 3:2 is about overseeing. It\u2019s not about preaching, teaching, or being a pastor.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This argument, then\u2014that women can\u2019t preach because they can\u2019t be pastors because they can\u2019t be husbands to a wife\u2014is irrelevant to the discussion about women preachers and teachers, first, because a pastor is not synonymous with an overseer, and also because again, a pastor is different from a preacher.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One can be a pastor who preaches or a preacher who doesn\u2019t pastor, and both roles are distinct from that of a watchman or overseer. Therefore, since this passage does not apply, this argument cannot be used to disqualify women from proclaiming the Lord.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2. \u201cThere aren\u2019t any women named as pastors in the Bible.\u201d<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Actually, there are, in fact, women pastors in the Bible, such as Rachel (Gen. 29:9). However, it is correct that no women are explicitly mentioned as pastors in the New Testament in the figurative sense\u2014but, neither are men.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I heard <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=ke30z9nOEOw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">a message from John Piper<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> arguing that women shouldn\u2019t be given the title \u201cpastor\u201d because in our modern day thinking, people think of a pastor as a leader of the church. In other words, what he seemed to be saying was to disregard what Scripture teaches and what the biblical texts mean to instead cater to the modern understanding of people, basically admitting that a \u201cpastor\u201d today is a man-made position.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, I propose a different solution. Stop calling yourselves pastors in the first place, as if it\u2019s some prestigious office. A pastor is not an \u201coffice\u201d nor a special title that indicates authority or high rank. A pastor is simply a word used to describe the type of work you do, or <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">should<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> be doing daily.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What do I mean by this? A farmer does the work of a farmer, a nurse does the work of a nurse, and a sanitation worker does the work of a sanitation worker. All these individuals serve others but hold no special rank or office\u2014they just do their jobs, and their titles describe the work that they do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Likewise, the same as a literal shepherd, a pastor in a church needs no special office or rank\u2014just <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">d<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">o the work of a pastor, and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">shepherd<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> or \u201ctend to\u201d God\u2019s flock, serving each individual sheep as would a noble shepherd. Be a godly example and lead with the knowledge of God.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You could be a pastor without everyone knowing your name. Why do you seek recognition? Scripture teaches:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cFor by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you. For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have different gifts, according to the grace given to each of us. If your gift is prophesying, then prophesy in accordance with your faith; if it is serving, then serve; if it is teaching, then teach; if it is to encourage, then give encouragement; if it is giving, then give generously; if it is to lead, do it diligently; if it is to show mercy, do it cheerfully.\u201d (Rom. 12:3-8)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">No one is more important than another in the body of Christ. The only head of the church is Jesus, and you and I both belong to one body. We belong to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">one another<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. So how can one have power over the other, including a man having influence over a woman who isn\u2019t his wife?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do your hands instruct your feet? Does your mouth control your gaze? Isn\u2019t it your head that commands the coordination of all body parts to work together seamlessly, with each part <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">following the lead<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> of another as directed by the brain?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We function together in our distinct callings, whatever the Holy Spirit has placed us in the body to be, to make the whole body of Christ work in unison \u2014the <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">true<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> meaning of \u201cdifferent, but equal.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">These callings aren\u2019t special offices or positions of authority\u2014-they\u2019re who we are. If we were to set aside the pride of man and cease with these different \u201coffices\u201d that the Bible never mentions nor encourages, then I gather this argument about women being pastors or preaching wouldn\u2019t exist to begin with.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The bottom line is that this argument has nothing to do with a woman preaching or teaching, and is therefore dismissed.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">3. \u201cNo books of the Bible were written by women.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is one I\u2019ve heard several times from <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8JzRNFdnF-Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">John MacArthur and G3 ministries<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. For some reason, he and others seem to think that because none of the 66 books chosen by human beings to become a part of our <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Holy <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bible were written by women, then that somehow serves as evidence that women aren\u2019t supposed to speak or be leaders.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">MacArthur says it\u2019s a \u201cpretty compulsive case for male leadership\u201d\u2014yet he doesn\u2019t proceed to make the case on any occasion on which he makes the statement, and neither does anyone else. Therefore, there <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">is<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> no case here. Absolutely none.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m hesitant to even call it a claim, as it\u2019s nothing more than an empty, unverified statement thrown out as a reason, apparently with the hopes that the hearers are stupid, blind, or ignorant. It\u2019s based on nothing more than one\u2019s opinion and understanding, and it\u2019s amazing to me that so many people actually go along with this stuff.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It sounds like something a third-grader would throw out in an argument when they had nothing better to say: \u201cWell! No books of the Bible were written by women! So there!\u201d But, isn\u2019t it time we stopped going along with everything someone says and began demanding them to make it make sense?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First, it would make sense to start with a little history and background information. During the New Testament era, it\u2019s obvious that women didn\u2019t have every privilege men had during those times, and so, perhaps women didn\u2019t write as much as men.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Even if that wasn\u2019t the case, given the culture and the inferior status given to women both then, and throughout history, why would anyone think that those mere human beings who compiled the books of the Bible, didn\u2019t intentionally overlook writings by women, for the same reason women weren\u2019t allowed to have a say in legal matters or hold public offices? Because women didn\u2019t have a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cvoice\u201d?<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cHey, look guys. This one fits all the criteria\u2014oh, but wait, a woman wrote it. So, nevermind.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We might want to think that since they were \u201cchurch folk\u201d that they would act with integrity, but regrettably, I have my doubts about this. I used to think that the compilation of the Bible was a divine act of God, but ultimately, it was just people putting writings together and then calling them \u201ccanonical.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are imperfect beings\u2014dust particles, merely drifting through life, tossed to and fro,\u00a0 making many stumbles throughout our journey. There\u2019s a <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">good<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> chance that we don\u2019t get everything right all the time.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And there is nothing to suggest that the assembly of texts to create our Bible was a divine arrangement by God, and so it\u2019s possible that there are other divinely inspired writings, potentially authored by women.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Second, since none of us was there looking over anyone\u2019s shoulder as they wrote, we don\u2019t know for sure who wrote <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">any<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> book of the Bible\u2014especially where no name is mentioned as the author of a particular work. We just go by the assumptions of historians and biblical scholars and have faith that God will reveal his truth to us nonetheless.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, in reality, one of these books or letters in the Bible could have in fact, been written by a woman, as some suggest. Unless you have any definite proof to state otherwise, that will always be a possibility.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ultimately, what does the statement that a woman never wrote any book of the Bible have to do with proclaiming or teaching God\u2019s Word? What does it have to do with anything at all? Absolutely nothing. This is again an opinion and not a good one. It doesn\u2019t come from Scripture, nor can the reasoning behind it be supported by Scripture, and is therefore irrelevant.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">4. Women in leadership roles were a sign of God\u2019s judgment.<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">According to some, women shouldn\u2019t preach because they shouldn\u2019t lead men. Consequently, they reference passages such as Isaiah 3:12 to explain why Deborah, a woman, became a judge and a leader of the nation.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cMy people \u2014 children oppress them, and women are ruling over them. My people! Your guides lead you astray and obliterate the paths you should follow.\u201d (CJB)<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many have claimed that this verse clearly demonstrates that all women are unfit to lead and that men must be in charge. Somehow, they interpret this verse to mean Deborah, a woman appointed by God to relieve the people\u2019s oppression, served as a judge over the nation, so as to punish it\u2014-apparently, by making the men feel bad. What other judgment could they have received since God had given them the victory?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But is this the message being conveyed or is this interpretation another product of one\u2019s imagination? Let\u2019s analyze briefly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First, we should determine what the word <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">rule<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> means in this verse. The Greek word in the Septuagint means \u201cto lord over,\u201d \u201cbe master of,\u201d or \u201cexercise control over.\u201d In the Hebrew Bible, the word translated as rule means \u201creign\u201d or \u201cto have dominion.\u201d The context implies that this ruling is done in a negative manner and is unapproved by God, and probably a type of ruling such as the oppressive rule of Rehoboam, or the tyranny of Athaliah.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So these women were ruling over the people in a negative manner. Who were these women? The books of Judges, Kings, and Chronicles do a good job of giving a thorough record of all the leaders in both Ephraim and Judah. So, who were these unnamed women who were supposedly in charge of the people? Why were they not mentioned as Deborah was?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Were they also judges? Were they queens? How <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">else <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">could they have ruled? Also, if there were unnamed women in these positions, then this means there were <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">other <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">women who led men back then? Right? That would open up a whole new can of worms.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And don\u2019t say it\u2019s talking about Deborah, because it says \u201cwomen\u201d and not \u201ca woman.\u201d So, how does one explain these questions that come along with this interpretation?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the other hand, multiple commentators suggest that the verse is not to be taken literally, but is spoken metaphorically to describe the weakness of the nation. This would make sense since it can\u2019t be saying that it\u2019s bad for youth in general to rule, hence Solomon, who was chosen and loved by God, became king around the age of twenty, nor can it be referring to women in general being unfit to lead as again, Deborah was appointed by God to help carry out his plan of deliverance.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neither of these were wicked or unfit to rule, and the Lord was with both of them (Jdgs. 2:18; 2 Chron. 1:1). There was nothing that implied that their leadership was related to any punishment or judgment, and those who use this as an argument can never provide evidence of such.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Even if the verse isn\u2019t speaking metaphorically, it\u2019s clear that many women among them in that particular day were indeed unfit to rule. However, this would have been due to their character, not their gender (Is. 3:16-17).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As others have already suggested, it could also refer to women in the background, who in a sense \u201crule\u201d over the people by basically using the male kings as puppets. An example of this would be Jezebel the wife of Ahab, who persuaded her husband to do evil in God\u2019s sight, leading the people astray.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In a different sense, it could be possible that a mother of a king saw her desires carried out through her son. As an example, Bathsheba went to Solomon on behalf of Adonijah to ask him to allow Abishag to be Adonijah\u2019s wife.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Initially, Solomon was willing to give his mother whatever she requested (1 Kgs. 2:17; 20). However, being full of wisdom, he understood Adonijah\u2019s underlying purpose so he didn\u2019t let it happen. But, still, we can see how a king\u2019s mother could have had great influence on how he handled the people, either in a positive or negative manner.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now, let\u2019s look at the Septuagint. The Septuagint renders this verse differently, yet still could be considered an accurate translation. A translation by the NET bible reads:<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cOppressors treat my people cruelly; creditors rule over them. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My people, your leaders mislead you; they give you confusing directions.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When there\u2019s a discrepancy, consider what the rest of Scripture has to say. Scripture never says nor implies that it is an act of God\u2019s judgment upon a nation, or that there is anything bad at all for youth or women to rule.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yet, many argue that Deborah was chosen as a judge, because there were no male leaders willing to \u201cstep up,\u201d and therefore, God had to <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">reach down<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in the bottom of the barrel, to pull out a woman, and appoint her as a leader. Her appointment, somehow, was God\u2019s judgment against the men of the nation for being weak and cowardly.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But, again, when pressed for biblical evidence to support this view, responses typically range from \u201ccrickets\u201d to off-topic answers to good ole\u2019 personal attacks, but no satisfactory proof is provided. In other words, it\u2019s like reading a health article that claims, \u201cStudies have shown\u2026\u201d, but fails to cite or direct you to the actual study.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let\u2019s get serious for a moment. John warned a group of Pharisees and Sadducees not to become too \u201cpuffed-up\u201d and complacent about their connection to Abraham, as God could easily raise up children for Abraham from stones (Matt. 3:9). Do you genuinely believe that if God wanted a suitable <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">male<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> judge in place of Deborah, that he couldn\u2019t have raised one up? <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Remember Gideon<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> (Judges 6-8).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do you not know the God you serve? Do you not have trust in his power and ability? Where is your faith if you believe he\u2019s limited to what <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">you <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">might call \u201crations?\u201d It\u2019s like nails on a chalkboard whenever I hear someone make a statement such as, \u201cThere were no suitable men, so God <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">had <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">to use a woman.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">God never <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">has<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> to do anything.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Overall, this argument is shallow and poorly thought out. Furthermore, it makes no sense to base an argument against women leading on this verse, not only because its translation and interpretation are contested, but also because it contradicts other parts of Scripture that are clear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the end, this argument doesn\u2019t work for either side, since again, ruling over others has nothing to do with preaching or teaching.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">5.\u00a0 \u00a0\u201cBecause the Bible says they can\u2019t.\u201d<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">An old <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=w7OXJ1EtH7Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">video of Voddie Baucham<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> is circulating on social media, where a man steps in to ask a question on behalf of his wife. He explained that his wife couldn\u2019t ask the question herself, probably due to the belief that women aren\u2019t permitted to speak or inquire during assemblies, as according to some, it would be seen as disgraceful.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">He said his wife wanted to know why women weren\u2019t allowed to preach in the church and if a woman feels she has the gift of preaching, why isn\u2019t she allowed to preach?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A few chuckles disrupt the silence as Bauchman eagerly searches for 1 Timothy 2:12. He then reads it aloud confidently. Upon finishing, he looks up, and states in an authoritative manner, \u201cBecause the Bible says so.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, this is an unacceptable response. It\u2019s a lazy and unconvincing one, used when one lacks a real answer, but depends on the belief that no one will challenge the Bible. Unfortunately, they\u2019re often right as many feel ashamed or rebellious for inquiring further.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The difficulty of asking more questions is further compounded, when audiences ignorantly hoot and applaud at these answers, as if they\u2019d just heard something profound. Any person seeking the truth may feel discouraged and belittled by this insensitive behavior.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To start, there are multiple known issues with 1 Timothy 2:12\u2014 not related to the verse itself, but concerning our translations and interpretations of it. But, I\u2019ll get into that much later.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Also, upon reading the Bible, it\u2019s not difficult to observe that when God, Jesus, Paul, or others issue commandments or authoritative directives, there is usually a reason or explanation that accompanies them (Gen. 3:17; 7:1; 19:13; 20:3;\u00a0 21:12; Exodus 12:17; 17:14; 21:18;\u00a0 22:26-27; 23:9;. 23:33; 29:33-34; 31:14; Lev. 5:11; 10:7; 10\u201d13; 11:13; Deut. 7:7-8; Isaiah 1; Matt. 1:21; 5:12; Mark 13:35; Jn. 13:34; Rom. 13:5).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is because God is our Heavenly Father, not a spiritual dictator. Just as any parent does, he wants us to understand the reasoning behind his rules, which are meant for our benefit. Personally, knowing the \u201cwhy\u201d behind something, rather than blindly following a command, makes me more inclined to obey the rule consistently.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In knowing the reason, I have an opportunity to agree, and understand, why a prescribed course of action may be more beneficial, than one based on my own understanding. As a result, I will more likely follow it in the future.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But it\u2019s troubling that those who discourage others from preaching and teaching, are unable to properly teach the Word themselves. It\u2019s nothing personal against Bauchman as he\u2019s not the only one using this empty response; other high-profile, knowledgeable preachers and teachers have also done so. But it is unacceptable to those who seek truth and seek to understand the will of our Lord.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">These are some answers to 5 common arguments against women preachers. Even if you disagree with my explanations, I urge you to carefully consider the specific doctrines you adhere to and the reasons behind embracing them as divine truth.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Have you accepted them merely because your favorite preacher endorsed them, or have you dug into the scriptures, earnestly prayed for insight, and pondered them yourself?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Make no mistake. My aim is not to win arguments, but to highlight the fallibility of our knowledge and the folly of establishing regulations based on flawed perceptions.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The truth is, we don\u2019t know everything we think we know.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Acknowledging this truth humbly allows for further contemplation, prayer, and devotion to learning, fostering deeper understanding, faithfulness, and obedience to the Lord, which undoubtedly pleases him.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In my previous post, I addressed five common objections against women preachers and teachers for you to consider. 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