{"id":2676,"date":"2013-04-02T10:30:39","date_gmt":"2013-04-02T15:30:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/emergentvillage\/?p=2676"},"modified":"2013-04-02T10:30:39","modified_gmt":"2013-04-02T15:30:39","slug":"whats-wrong-with-the-new-reformed-movement-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/emergentvillage\/2013\/04\/whats-wrong-with-the-new-reformed-movement-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s Wrong With the &#8220;New Reformed&#8221; Movement? Part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Soon after I left the New Reformed movement, I took an American Literature class. I was surprised to learn just how much Calvinism had influenced many of the early American classics. One author in particular drew me in: Nathaniel Hawthorne. I don\u2019t know much about Hawthorne, but after I read <a href=\"http:\/\/www.online-literature.com\/poe\/158\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">Young Goodman Brown<\/a>, it felt like I knew exactly where he was coming from.<\/p>\n<p>The first negative experience I can remember coming from a New Calvinist preacher was when he described going to a baseball game, looking around and thinking to himself, \u201cMost of these people are going to hell.\u201d I threw up in my mouth a little. Sure, I used to <em>theoretically<\/em> agree with \u201ctotal depravity\u201d and \u201ceternal conscious torment.\u201d But, I had never really put real faces on those ideas.<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t want to give too much away from Hawthorne\u2019s short story (it only takes a few minutes to read), but that story has not left my mind since I read it. What he describes is a situation where you are so obsessed with the immorality of everyone around you that you cannot function. Nietzsche said, \u201cthe lowest kind of man sees evil everywhere\u201d, and\u00a0<em>I think he was right.<\/em> When we are so caught up in our own failures, or those of others, we reveal our own stasis. We are stuck. We can\u2019t move forward. <strong>Guilt is a terrible thing to endure.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Many people today see guilt as being a <em>primary<\/em> function of religion: if we don\u2019t have some authority telling us what to do, how can we be good? If we don\u2019t have an objective list of what\u2019s right and wrong, why would we choose the former? If there is no punishment waiting at the end for those who are more \u201cnaughty\u201d than \u201cnice,\u201d then what\u2019s the point of trying? So, because of these assumptions, many have completely rejected religion altogether. And, to be honest, if that is what someone is proposing, I, too, say, \u201cWalk away and don\u2019t look back.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But, is that the whole story? Thankfully, I am encountering more and more people and groups that don\u2019t have guilt at the center of their spirituality at all. As my friend Doug Hammack has said, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.northraleighcommunitychurch.org\/audio\/2008\/03\/02\/archive-sin%E2%80%99s-just-not-that-big-a-deal-scandalous-part-1\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">\u201cSin\u2019s just not that big a deal.\u201d<\/a><\/p>\n<p>But, of course, there are many churches who accept this as inherent to any <em>true<\/em> spiritual journey. And, in my experience, the New Reformed movement are the experts at this. The movement is <em>defined by<\/em> an unhealthy picture of who God is, what Jesus did, and who we are. God is angry at you, because you are evil. God had to send his Son to die for you because He needed an innocent victim to pour out his anger on. Without your acceptance of that sacrifice, you will be without hope in this life and the next. Guilt is, therefore, <em>central<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>If you have the courage to leave the movement, and if you have invested very much of yourself into it, I will guess that you will probably need some professional therapy (<em>not<\/em> \u201cChristian counseling\u201d) to work through these issues. And, one of the first things you\u2019ll realize is how much you have been <em>driven<\/em> by guilt. And, it will be <em>liberating<\/em> to free yourself from that <strong>obsession<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>One interesting thing is that the movement has done an amazing PR job. <strong>You might be attending one of these churches and not even know it.<\/strong> One distinction of the movement is more attention paid to \u201crelevance,\u201d or \u201cspeaking the language of the culture.\u201d One moment of clarity for me while working for <a href=\"http:\/\/vintagenc.com\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">one of the most prominent New Reformed churches in the U.S.<\/a> was when a girl who had been a member for a few years asked me, \u201cWhat is Calvinism?\u201d She literally had no idea. How does this happen? Because <em>many of those scary words are avoided in these churches, but the content is the same.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>For example, Tim Keller (a New Reformed NY Times Bestselling author) likes to say something to the effect of, \u201cWe are more wicked than we believe, but more loved by Christ than we ever dared hope.\u201d That sounds nice, and it\u2019s catchy. But, is this really healthy? We\u2019re not just wicked, we are <em>more wicked<\/em> than we believe? My own pastor used to sum up \u201cthe gospel\u201d with something like, \u201cYou\u2019ve sinned against God and you <em>deserve<\/em> death. But, Jesus died for you so you don\u2019t have to suffer eternally for your sins.\u201d Again, that sounds pretty attractive. But, this is precisely the problem. Anyone who spends just a few minutes contemplating this as an <em>objective reality<\/em> will quickly see that it is dangerous. Toxic. Not only to each of us individually, but also in how we see others.<\/p>\n<p>When I hear members of these churches say things like, \u201cI\u2019m so thankful for Jesus,\u201d it actually makes me <em>sad<\/em> for them. Because in that statement lies the implication that they are not good; they are evil; they are deserving of God\u2019s eternal wrath; they don\u2019t <em>deserve<\/em> anything good.<\/p>\n<p>One way that this negatively effected my family was that my wife and I used to try this unhealthy logic on our kids, when they were much younger. If they did something wrong, we would tell them things like, \u201cNow, you deserve to die and be punished forever for your sin, but because I love you I am showing you mercy.\u201d Now I wonder, <em>was this child abuse?<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/emergentvillage\/2013\/03\/whats-wrong-with-the-new-reformed-movement\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">As a followup<\/a>, I hope this post clarifies some of my problems with the New Reformed movement. Sadly, I can imagine many will read this and not see a problem at all (\u201c<em>my<\/em> church isn\u2019t like that\u201d or \u201cthings are changing\u201d). Others who are currently involved in the movement will know, deep down, that these things are dangerous, and that it\u2019s unhealthy for them to continue. Still others will have had limited experience with the movement, and will not believe that people <em>actually<\/em> think or do these things.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>What do you think? Is a \u201cguilty conscience\u201d being at the center of your theology a good or necessary thing? Do you know what affiliations your church has? Do you have friends and family who are caught up in this movement?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Soon after I left the New Reformed movement, I took an American Literature class. I was surprised to learn just how much Calvinism had influenced many of the early American classics. One author in particular drew me in: Nathaniel Hawthorne. 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