{"id":107,"date":"2012-04-20T21:38:00","date_gmt":"2012-04-20T20:38:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2012\/04\/religion-facilitates-learning-about-omniscience-but-it-still-has-to-be-learned.html"},"modified":"2014-11-12T03:37:24","modified_gmt":"2014-11-12T02:37:24","slug":"religion-facilitates-learning-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2012\/04\/religion-facilitates-learning-about.html","title":{"rendered":"Religion facilitates learning about omniscience \u2013 but it still has to be learned"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Recently, the New Scientist published a special \u2018God\u2019 issue(behind pay wall) arguing that religion is natural and beneficial to society. All very interesting, but several of the articles gave quite a one-sided view of several issues (properly speaking, they were opinion pieces written by leading scientists advocating their particular view point).<\/p>\n<p>Take, for example, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newscientist.com\/article\/mg21328562.000-the-god-issue-we-are-all-born-believers.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">article by Justin Barrett<\/a>, arguing that children have an innate understanding of omniscience. That\u2019s an important question, because if we have a built-in appreciation of the thorny concept of omniscience, then this suggests that religious, and in particular Judaeo-Christian, beliefs are intuitive.<\/p>\n<p>Barrett cites research by himself and others that supports this view. Broadly speaking, the idea is that young children start off by thinking that everyone has god-like powers of omniscience, and that they have to learn that mortals (like their mum) have in fact only limited knowledge.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTFeqiy9kI\/AAAAAAAAArI\/xrL_yRIR3kA\/s1600\/Lane_2010_childrens_understanding.png\" style=\"clear: right;float: right;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-left: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"302\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTFeqiy9kI\/AAAAAAAAArI\/xrL_yRIR3kA\/s1600\/Lane_2010_childrens_understanding.png\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>However, there are actually just as many studies that conflict with this idea. In particular, one I covered on this blog before suggests a more complex picture. What <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">this research<\/a>, by Jonathan Lane at the University of Michigan, suggests is that in fact very young children simply assume that you know everything they know.<\/p>\n<p>When they get older, they learn that others don\u2019t know everything they know. However, crucially, they make the same assumption about God. It\u2019s only later, when they\u2019ve learnt about omniscience, that they can correctly ascribed these powers to God.<\/p>\n<p>Lane\u2019s most recent work basically replicates the original, with the interesting twist that the second study was done in children who had attended religious Protestant Christian preschools.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-72lJ9nPdDP8\/T5G-05cOutI\/AAAAAAAAA9Y\/PFz3J-QGE9A\/s1600\/Lane_2012_heroman_religious_kids.png\" style=\"clear: right;float: right;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-left: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"276\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-72lJ9nPdDP8\/T5G-05cOutI\/AAAAAAAAA9Y\/PFz3J-QGE9A\/s1600\/Lane_2012_heroman_religious_kids.png\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The results they got were basically the same as the first study, with one key difference (the previous study is at the top, the new one underneath). The kids who had been to a religious preschool were able to correctly say that Mr Smart can know things that you (and in fact no ordinary human) can not.<\/p>\n<p>In short, they understood omniscience at an earlier age.<\/p>\n<p>Intriguingly, they didn\u2019t spontaneously attribute omniscience to God, only to \u2018Mr Smart\u2019. That\u2019s probably because they were specifically told that Mr Smart \u201cknows everything\u201d, whereas they weren\u2019t told anything about god.<\/p>\n<p>What that means is that they understood the concept of omniscience, even though they hadn\u2019t yet learned to automatically associate that idea with god.<\/p>\n<p>When quizzing the children further, Lane also found that those who had more sophisticated knowledge of God\u2019s abilities actually were more likely to understand the extraordinary powers of the other agents (Heroman, Mr Smart). It seems that the training about god they received from an early age does help them to understand the idea of extraordinary powers \u2013 but these ideas still have to be developed (they\u2019re not innate).<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>Lane concludes: \u201c\u2026data from the current study provide compelling evidence that when children begin to understand the cognitive limitations of humans, they typically attribute those same limitations to God, and this applies even to religiously exposed children. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>Only later, at around age 5 years did religiously exposed children reliably differentiate between humans\u2019 fallible mental abilities and inaccurate mental states versus God\u2019s less fallible abilities and states. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote class=\"tr_bq\"><p>These results suggest that in their everyday reasoning, even children who are raised in religious settings often initially understand God\u2019s mind as constrained and fallible, very similar to their understanding of ordinary human minds.\u201d <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So children have to develop an understanding of omniscience, even if they are raised in a religious environment. However, when raised in a religious environment, they seem to understand omniscience earlier \u2013 evidence of the importance of learning, as well as brain maturation.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span style=\"float: right;padding: 5px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"ResearchBlogging.org\" src=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" style=\"border: 0\"><\/a><\/span><br><span class=\"Z3988\" title=\"ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=Child+Development&amp;rft_id=info%3Adoi%2F10.1111%2Fj.1467-8624.2012.01741.x&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Sociocultural+Input+Facilitates+Children%E2%80%99s+Developing+Understanding+of+Extraordinary+Minds&amp;rft.issn=00093920&amp;rft.date=2012&amp;rft.volume=&amp;rft.issue=&amp;rft.spage=0&amp;rft.epage=0&amp;rft.artnum=http%3A%2F%2Fdoi.wiley.com%2F10.1111%2Fj.1467-8624.2012.01741.x&amp;rft.au=Lane%2C+J.&amp;rft.au=Wellman%2C+H.&amp;rft.au=Evans%2C+E.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=Psychology%2CReligion%2C+Developmental+Psychology\">Lane, J., Wellman, H., &amp; Evans, E. (2012). Sociocultural Input Facilitates Children\u2019s Developing Understanding of Extraordinary Minds <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Child Development<\/span> DOI: <a href=\"http:\/\/dx.doi.org\/10.1111\/j.1467-8624.2012.01741.x\" rev=\"review\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">10.1111\/j.1467-8624.2012.01741.x<\/a><\/span><br><span style=\"float: left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Creative Commons License\" src=\"https:\/\/i.creativecommons.org\/l\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/88x31.png\" style=\"border-width: 0pt\"><\/a><\/span> This article by <b>Tom Rees<\/b> was first published on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Epiphenom<\/a>.  It is licensed under <a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Creative Commons<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, the New Scientist published a special \u2018God\u2019 issue(behind pay wall) arguing that religion is natural and beneficial to society. All very interesting, but several of the articles gave quite a one-sided view of several issues (properly speaking, they were opinion pieces written by leading scientists advocating their particular view point). 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