{"id":217,"date":"2011-01-07T20:58:00","date_gmt":"2011-01-07T19:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2011\/01\/americans-not-as-religious-as-they-think-they-are.html"},"modified":"2014-11-14T22:50:34","modified_gmt":"2014-11-14T21:50:34","slug":"americans-not-as-religious-as-they","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2011\/01\/americans-not-as-religious-as-they.html","title":{"rendered":"Americans: not as religious as they think they are"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>We\u2019re used to hearing that America is an exceptional nation when it comes to religion. Certainly, the hold that religion has over public life is unparalleled among wealthy nations, and most Americans readily tell pollsters that they are dutifully religious.<\/p>\n<p>But it seems that American religiosity might also be exceptional for quite another reason. It turns out that the gap between what they tell pollsters and what they actually do is bigger than for any other nation.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve known for a long time that, when asked, people report going to Church more than they actually do. That\u2019s not too surprising. It\u2019s well known that, when you ask questions that relate to personal esteem, people will tend to tell you what they wish was true, rather than what actually is true.<\/p>\n<p>They tell you what they want to believe.<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;\" href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TSY__5K8dtI\/AAAAAAAAAs0\/ezb2DqPk0es\/s1600\/Brenner_2010_church_attendance.png\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TSY__5K8dtI\/AAAAAAAAAs0\/ezb2DqPk0es\/s1600\/Brenner_2010_church_attendance.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"228\" border=\"0\"><\/a>Philip Brenner, at the University of Michigan, set out to see if this gap, between reports and reality, was the same in all countries. He used data from a variety of surveys, and compared it to so-called \u201ctime use\u201d studies. These studies ask participants to write down each day what they have been doing.<\/p>\n<p>He found that Americans say they go to Church about twice as often as they actually do. That\u2019s pretty similar to what has been found in other studies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><\/div>\n<p>In other countries, however, the gap was much smaller \u2013 in fact, for many of them, it was non-existent (the bar chart only shows the worst offenders). It\u2019s not a recent phenomenon either. Brenner plots graphs for each of the 14 countries he studied. The graph for the USA shows a pretty consistent gap for the past 40 years (the paper isn\u2019t yet published, but I\u2019ll put the graphs up when it is).<\/p>\n<p>Compare that with the Netherlands, where Church attendance has gradually declined, with polling surveys and time-use reports pretty much matched all the way.<\/p>\n<p>Broadly speaking, there were three kinds of countries. Those where Church attendance is steadily falling (Netherlands, West Germany, France Slovenia, Spain, Austria, Ireland), those where Church Attendance has always been low (East Germany, Norway, Finland, Britain), and one (Italy) with a more complex picture.<\/p>\n<p>But only the USA and Canada showed a marked gap between reported Church attendance and reality. Why should that be? <a href=\"http:\/\/tucsoncitizen.com\/usa-today-news\/2010\/12\/01\/god-knows-we-lie-about-going-to-church\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">According to Brenner:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you ask people if they attended church, they hear that question pragmatically. They reflect on their identity as a religious person and they want to honestly report their identity as a religious person.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>So I think they are being honest with how they understand the question: \u2018Are you the sort of person who attends religious services?\u2019 is what they think they hear and they say yes.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So could it really be that could be that religion is an important part of identity in these countries but not in Europe? Possibly, but I don\u2019t really think that\u2019s the case in Canada. Certainly not when compared to Ireland and Italy!<\/p>\n<p>So there must be something else in North American culture that prompts people to say they are more dutifully religious than they really are. It beats me what that could be \u2013 but, perhaps, whatever it is is the same factor that make religion so resilient in those countries?<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span style=\"float: right; padding: 5px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border: 0pt none;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" alt=\"ResearchBlogging.org\"><\/a><\/span><span class=\"Z3988\" title=\"ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=Public+Opinion+Quarterly&amp;rft_id=info%3A%2F&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Exceptional+behavior+or+exceptional+identity%3F++Overreporting+of+church+attendance+in+the+US&amp;rft.issn=&amp;rft.date=2011&amp;rft.volume=&amp;rft.issue=&amp;rft.spage=0&amp;rft.epage=&amp;rft.artnum=&amp;rft.au=Brenner%2C+Philip+S.&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=Social+Science%2CReligion%2C+Church+Attendance%2C+Public+opinion%2C+surveys\">Brenner, Philip S. (2011). Exceptional behavior or exceptional identity? Overreporting of church attendance in the US <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Public Opinion Quarterly<\/span>: In press<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"float: left;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"border-width: 0pt;\" src=\"https:\/\/i.creativecommons.org\/l\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/88x31.png\" alt=\"Creative Commons License\"><\/a><\/span> This article by <b>Tom Rees<\/b> was first published on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Epiphenom<\/a>. It is licensed under <a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Creative Commons<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We\u2019re used to hearing that America is an exceptional nation when it comes to religion. Certainly, the hold that religion has over public life is unparalleled among wealthy nations, and most Americans readily tell pollsters that they are dutifully religious. But it seems that American religiosity might also be exceptional for quite another reason. 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