{"id":239,"date":"2010-10-12T22:02:00","date_gmt":"2010-10-12T22:02:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html"},"modified":"2014-11-03T19:21:02","modified_gmt":"2014-11-03T18:21:02","slug":"mr-smart-and-heroman","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html","title":{"rendered":"Mr Smart and Heroman"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything \u2013 like what\u2019s inside a closed box. Heroman is not so smart, but he does have a special power. Heroman has x-ray vision, so that he can see into the closed box.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTC2nTMDjI\/AAAAAAAAArE\/GiX78bXY8Hg\/s1600\/mr_smart.png\" style=\"clear: left;float: left;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-right: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTC2nTMDjI\/AAAAAAAAArE\/GiX78bXY8Hg\/s1600\/mr_smart.png\"><\/a> Here\u2019s a picture of Mr Smart. He looks a bit like a lot of Professors I know.<\/p>\n<p>Both Mr Smart and Heroman had a key role to play in a recent study by Jonathan Lane, of the University of Michigan, and colleagues, into how children come to understand magical beings. <\/p>\n<p>There are basically two schools of thought on this. One is  that they have to learn first about ordinary minds and then, building on that platform, they learn about extrardinary minds.<\/p>\n<p>The other school holds that children are born with an inbuilt predisposition to think that all intelligent beings\u00a0 have god-like omniscience. They then have to learn that, sadly, their parents and their friends are in fact limited in what they know. <\/p>\n<p>A leading proponent of this idea is the cognitive psychologist Justin Barrett. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2009\/01\/childish-beliefs-of-dr-justin-barret.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">His studies<\/a>  of the beliefs of young children have shown that the youngest (aged 3)  seem to intuitively believe that all people (and God) are omniscient \u2013  they know everything that the child knows. Older children (aged 5) have learned that Mum has her limitations. <\/p>\n<p>The distinction is important. At stake is the issue of whether we are born with an innate predisposition to believe in an Abrahamic god. As Barrett explains:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u2026early-developing conceptual structures in children used to reason about God are not specifically for representing humans, and, in fact, actually facilitate the acquisition and use of many features of God concepts of the Abrahamic monotheisms (Barrett &amp; Richert, 2003)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>But perhaps it\u2019s not that simple. Childhood development is a rapid, complex process. So Lane and colleagues set out to get a bit more granularity into the picture, by learning about the beliefs of children in the middle range, at around 4 years old.<\/p>\n<p>The basic experiment is simple. The experimenter sits with the child and a box of crayons in a room.  Except the box doesn\u2019t really contain crayons. it\u2019s got rocks in it instead.<\/p>\n<p>The child knows that, because she\u2019s been shown them. But then the box is closed up again. The question for the child is this: who else will know what\u2019s inside the box, if they come into the room?<\/p>\n<p>Would another girl her age know? Would her mum know? What about Heroman and Mr Smart? What about God?<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTFeqiy9kI\/AAAAAAAAArI\/xrL_yRIR3kA\/s1600\/Lane_2010_childrens_understanding.png\" style=\"clear: right;float: right;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-left: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"302\" src=\"https:\/\/wp-media.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTFeqiy9kI\/AAAAAAAAArI\/xrL_yRIR3kA\/s1600\/Lane_2010_childrens_understanding.png\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Well, the results change with age, and in a fascinating way. On the graph, higher scores mean that the individual concerned would guess (wrongly) that there are crayons in the box.<\/p>\n<p>The youngest age group, just under 4 years old. mostly think that everyone \u2013 Mum, Mr Smart, and God \u2013 would know that the crayon box actually has rocks in it.<\/p>\n<p>The middle group, around 4 and a half years old, are more likely to think that they would be fooled, and think (wrongly) that the box holds crayons.<\/p>\n<p>The exception is Heroman. The 4.5-year olds reckon that Heroman could see into the box, and so know that it contains rocks.<\/p>\n<p>The oldest group, around 6 years old, have pretty much all figured out that Mum and the girl would be fooled, but that Mr Smart, Heroman and God would not be.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s what the researchers think is going on. The youngest children have what\u2019s known as \u2018reality bias\u2019:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When asked about what other people know or believe, very young children tend to answer by simply assessing reality and using that information to infer others\u2019 knowledge and belief <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The middle group, however, have developed enough to understand ignorance:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Soon after children develop an appreciation for the distinction between knowledge and ignorance, they begin to appreciate the distinction between reality and belief; they start to understand that others, misled by inaccurate perceptual cues or outdated information, can hold false beliefs<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Only Heroman is not ignorant, because only he can see inside the box.<\/p>\n<p>The oldest children have also learned that some agents \u2013 gods and the like \u2013 have (or are supposed to have) superhuman knowledge.<\/p>\n<p>Lane concludes that childhood development proceeds in the exact opposite direction to what Barrett proposes. Rather than intuitively understanding the idea of omniscience, children naturally understand all agents \u2013 people and magical beings \u2013 to be limited in the same way as the people they know.<\/p>\n<p>Realism, in short, is natural. The idea of the supernatural has to be learned.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span style=\"float: right;padding: 5px\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"ResearchBlogging.org\" src=\"https:\/\/www.researchblogging.org\/public\/citation_icons\/rb2_large_gray.png\" style=\"border: 0pt none\"><\/a><\/span><span class=\"Z3988\" title=\"ctx_ver=Z39.88-2004&amp;rft_val_fmt=info%3Aofi%2Ffmt%3Akev%3Amtx%3Ajournal&amp;rft.jtitle=Child+development&amp;rft_id=info%3Apmid%2F20840235&amp;rfr_id=info%3Asid%2Fresearchblogging.org&amp;rft.atitle=Children%27s+understanding+of+ordinary+and+extraordinary+minds.&amp;rft.issn=0009-3920&amp;rft.date=2010&amp;rft.volume=81&amp;rft.issue=5&amp;rft.spage=1475&amp;rft.epage=89&amp;rft.artnum=&amp;rft.au=Lane+JD&amp;rft.au=Wellman+HM&amp;rft.au=Evans+EM&amp;rfe_dat=bpr3.included=1;bpr3.tags=Psychology%2CDevelopmental+Psychology%2C+Religion\">Lane JD, Wellman HM, &amp; Evans EM (2010). Children\u2019s understanding of ordinary and extraordinary minds. <span style=\"font-style: italic\">Child development, 81<\/span> (5), 1475-89 PMID: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/20840235\" rev=\"review\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">20840235<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"float: left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Creative Commons License\" src=\"https:\/\/i.creativecommons.org\/l\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/88x31.png\" style=\"border-width: 0pt\"><\/a><\/span> This article by <b>Tom Rees<\/b> was first published on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Epiphenom<\/a>.  It is licensed under <a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Creative Commons<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything \u2013 like what\u2019s inside a closed box. Heroman is not so smart, but he does have a special power. Heroman has x-ray vision, so that he can see into the closed box. Here\u2019s a [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2091,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-239","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v21.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Mr Smart and Heroman<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what&#039;s inside a closed box.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Mr Smart and Heroman\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what&#039;s inside a closed box.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2010-10-12T22:02:00+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2014-11-03T18:21:02+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/wp.production.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTC2nTMDjI\/AAAAAAAAArE\/GiX78bXY8Hg\/s1600\/mr_smart.png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Epiphenom\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"4 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\",\"name\":\"Mr Smart and Heroman\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2010-10-12T22:02:00+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2014-11-03T18:21:02+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1\"},\"description\":\"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what's inside a closed box.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Mr Smart and Heroman\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\",\"name\":\"Epiphenom\",\"description\":\"The science of religion and non-belief\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1\",\"name\":\"Epiphenom\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Epiphenom\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/author\/trees\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Mr Smart and Heroman","description":"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what's inside a closed box.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Mr Smart and Heroman","og_description":"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what's inside a closed box.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html","og_site_name":"Epiphenom","article_published_time":"2010-10-12T22:02:00+00:00","article_modified_time":"2014-11-03T18:21:02+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/wp.production.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/_8sY9bx8acNM\/TLTC2nTMDjI\/AAAAAAAAArE\/GiX78bXY8Hg\/s1600\/mr_smart.png"}],"author":"Epiphenom","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Epiphenom","Est. reading time":"4 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html","name":"Mr Smart and Heroman","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website"},"datePublished":"2010-10-12T22:02:00+00:00","dateModified":"2014-11-03T18:21:02+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1"},"description":"Let me introduce you to Mr Smart and Heroman. Mr Smart is really, really clever. So clever that he knows everything - like what's inside a closed box.","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/10\/mr-smart-and-heroman.html#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Mr Smart and Heroman"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/","name":"Epiphenom","description":"The science of religion and non-belief","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/98b4bf21daa886d9eb1d5f0e99643ad1","name":"Epiphenom","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/a9abb71dca9f11ec59b77b1fffa487fa?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"Epiphenom"},"url":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/author\/trees"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/239","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2091"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=239"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/239\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=239"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=239"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=239"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}