{"id":244,"date":"2010-09-28T21:34:00","date_gmt":"2010-09-28T20:34:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/admin.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/09\/atheists-think-you-know-more-about-religion-than-the-faithful.html"},"modified":"2014-11-12T04:57:24","modified_gmt":"2014-11-12T03:57:24","slug":"atheists-think-you-know-more-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/2010\/09\/atheists-think-you-know-more-about.html","title":{"rendered":"Atheists! Think you know more about religion than the faithful?"},"content":{"rendered":"<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-\/\/W3C\/\/DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional\/\/EN\" \"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/TR\/REC-html40\/loose.dtd\">\n<html><head><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><meta http-equiv=\"content-type\" content=\"text\/html; charset=utf-8\"><\/head><body><p>I\u2019m fascinated by the tussle between the so-called \u2018new\u2019 Atheists and the folks in the other corner, who for want of a better term seem to be called \u2018accomodationists\u2019. The main reason I find it fascinating is not the content of the debate, which is mostly pretty mundane, but the fact that the argument rages so hard (take this <a href=\"http:\/\/whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com\/2010\/09\/25\/cfi-declares-war-on-atheists\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">recent example from Jerry Coyne<\/a> or <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.newhumanist.org.uk\/2010\/09\/humanist-heresy-why-ive-been-called.html\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">this, from Casper Melville<\/a> standing in the other trench). <\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\" style=\"clear: both;text-align: center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pewforum.org\/uploadedImages\/Topics\/Belief_and_Practices\/religious-knowledge-27.png\" style=\"clear: right;float: right;margin-bottom: 1em;margin-left: 1em\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" src=\"https:\/\/pewforum.org\/uploadedImages\/Topics\/Belief_and_Practices\/religious-knowledge-27.png\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Anyway, that\u2019s not what today\u2019s post about. What it is about is the<a href=\"http:\/\/pewforum.org\/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey-Factors-Linked-With-Religious-Knowledge.aspx\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\"> new research<\/a> from the Pew Center, who have recently found that atheists scored higher in a religious quiz than any of the religious groups.<\/p>\n<p>You can take a short form of the quiz <a href=\"http:\/\/features.pewforum.org\/quiz\/us-religious-knowledge\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">here<\/a>. Let me know how you get on! <\/p>\n<p>Now, atheists tend to be better educated than the religious, but\u00a0 the differences held even after they adjusted for demographic differences like education and income.<\/p>\n<p>So it seems that the non-religious are genuinely more knowledgeable than the religious \u2013 at least in terms of this kind of knowledge-based quiz.<\/p>\n<p>What makes this interesting is the charge, often made by religionists, that the \u2018New\u2019 Atheists don\u2019t even understand what is they\u2019re attacking. They don\u2019t understand religion. Now, to a certain extent that\u2019s true. Theological rationalizations for the existance and nature of the various gods can be esoteric in the extreme, and few atheists will have spent the time to understand them.<\/p>\n<p>But of course by this standard most religious people don\u2019t understand religion either, which rather begs the question of what religion is. Are these \u2018ordinary\u2019 religious people simply uneducated? Or, if confronted by the rarefied, intellectual and theologically correct version of religion, would they reject it?<\/p>\n<p>In other words, is the ill-informed, theologically incorrect version of religion more real than the true religion?<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><span style=\"float: left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Creative Commons License\" src=\"https:\/\/i.creativecommons.org\/l\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/88x31.png\" style=\"border-width: 0pt\"><\/a><\/span> This article by <b>Tom Rees<\/b> was first published on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/epiphenom\/\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Epiphenom<\/a>.  It is licensed under <a href=\"http:\/\/creativecommons.org\/licenses\/by-sa\/2.0\/uk\/\" rel=\"nofollow\" class=\" decorated-link\" target=\"_blank\">Creative Commons<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/body><\/html>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019m fascinated by the tussle between the so-called \u2018new\u2019 Atheists and the folks in the other corner, who for want of a better term seem to be called \u2018accomodationists\u2019. 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